REVIEW: Marschall Schnecke by Grimm & Triepel

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  • squeezyjohn
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    • Jan 2008
    • 2497

    REVIEW: Marschall Schnecke by Grimm & Triepel

    The Marschall Schnecke is a twist tobacco made by German company Grimm & Triepel - coiled up in to a "snail" or "schnecke" - I got this unusual tobacco from Mr. Snuff in vacuum sealed packets of five snails (50g of tobacco per snail). These coils are a very dark brown - almost black colour and when opened the tobacco is moist enough to be pliable.
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    a picture of the "snail"
    Smell:
    The main smell reminds me of chocolate and leather ... it's very reminiscent of Ettan snus (especially the smell of the portions). There is also a background aroma that I just can't quite put my finger on ... it smells a little "gamey" - if that's not a ridiculous thing to say about tobacco - occasionally this background smell reminds me of proper fermented pickles too. It's quite clear (thank God) from the smell - that this tobacco is NOT FIRE CURED like the Samuel Gawith and Gawith & Hoggarth plug twists ... although I suspect it is fermented.

    So what is it like as a snus replacement? Well ... you need to cut a bite off the coil which is easy with a knife or sharp scissors. The width of the coil is perfect at about 1cm (3/8") to make a bite about the same size as a portion. It is soft enough to mould in to shape and pop under the upper lip.

    Taste:
    The taste is instant and my goodness it's bold! - although if you want the nicotine to come out quickly you need to give it a light chew with the molars to start with. The taste is like the smell - but even more like bitter chocolate - in fact to my senses it tastes almost exactly like a prilla of Ettan Los, just a much stronger flavour with less salt. The background notes of leather and that slight gameyness are also there - but the taste on the tongue is more bitter than any snus I've had - like chocolate with no sugar in it. The blurb from Grimm & Triepel says that the nicotine content is "strong" but if a comparison is possible - I'd rate it as somewhere between a regular strength snus & a stark.

    So that's my impression of the taste of the tobacco on it's own. But the directive from the G&T website suggests that one should add a flavouring (they suggest a spirit like rum or brandy) ... I can see that working - but there's also no reason you couldn't just make up any sauce you fancy and soak a snail in it.

    Conclusion:
    This is strongly flavoured, intensely dark tobacco. I suspect it's fermented, but can't be certain. The flavour is definitely adult ... no added sweetness here! Despite the lack of any added flavour - I'd say this product might be too strong in taste for some people ... but the taste is pure Ettan ... just more so!!! It's easy to use as a snus replacement and the nicotine released is OK but not very hard hitting.

    I just wish I knew how the TSNA count is compared with snus ... I suspect it's higher but don't know for sure.
    Squeezyjohn

    Sometimes wrong and sometimes right .... but ALWAYS certain!!!
  • squeezyjohn
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    • Jan 2008
    • 2497

    #2
    I personally think this is the best replacement for snus I have ever tried that is legally available to buy within the UK. Cheap too! For £16 you get 5 snails and I reckon you'd get about 40 tobacco bites from each snail - possibly more - that's the equivalent of 10 cans of snus for £16 or 1 can for £1.60.

    Playing about with flavours could be fun too!
    Squeezyjohn

    Sometimes wrong and sometimes right .... but ALWAYS certain!!!

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    • chainsnuser
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 1388

      #3
      The TSNA's are negligible with oral tobacco. A small amount of NA's could even be useful to build up resistance, as they occur in every type of food. BTW, I have the impression that the group of people with the most incidences of cancer (even more than chainsmokers) are "hardcore healthists", you know, people who eat nothing but organically grown, uncooked fresh vegetables and jog through the woods every day. Such people should never visit a big city. Their bodies are so little hardened that one whiff of exhaust-fumes will kill them.

      I've tried the snail once in 2007 when I was relatively new to oral tobacco and I Iiked the taste and the nicotine delivery, but found that I liked snus even better and also the flavored chewing tobacco bits by Grimm & Triepel (I have a piece of Hanewacker in the cheek at this moment). Reading your description, I think it's time to order the Marschallschnecke again (the unflavoured as well as the new flavoured variety)

      Cheers!

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      • Frosted
        Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 5798

        #4
        I love reading your posts squeezy.

        I've had my eyes on these for the past week and you've just gone and bought them - There's similar thinking going on here.
        One question - if you chop it up to the size of say an Oliver Twist a. do you get enough nicotine and b. is there a lot of salivation so that you need to spit?

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        • Skell18
          Member
          • May 2012
          • 7067

          #5
          Originally posted by Extreme
          I love reading your posts squeezy.

          I've had my eyes on these for the past week and you've just gone and bought them - There's similar thinking going on here.
          One question - if you chop it up to the size of say an Oliver Twist a. do you get enough nicotine and b. is there a lot of salivation so that you need to spit?
          Just use it like snus mate, I do, minimal drip but enough to get the flavour.

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          • Frosted
            Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 5798

            #6
            Thank you Skell. This sounds pretty nice.
            Expensive if you don't like it though - £21.98 if it's not for you, but it sounds like it's pretty good. I enjoyed the Piccanells so chew might be alright.

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            • Skell18
              Member
              • May 2012
              • 7067

              #7
              Originally posted by Extreme
              Thank you Skell. This sounds pretty nice.
              Expensive if you don't like it though - £21.98 if it's not for you, but it sounds like it's pretty good. I enjoyed the Piccanells so chew might be alright.
              Like the OTs and picanelli they do last a long time so when you work out the price per chew its very cheap.

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              • lxskllr
                Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 13435

                #8
                Sounds interesting. I don't have the pressing need you Euros do, but I'm always up for a new kind of tobacco. The flavor description sounds especially appealing. Most of the chew I've had from various countries has been sweet, and I'm more interested in savory flavors.

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                • Frosted
                  Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 5798

                  #9
                  I agree lxskllr - sweet chew sounds disgusting. I'm into more natural flavour myself.

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                  • Ansel
                    Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 3696

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Extreme
                    I love reading your posts squeezy.
                    Yeah me too, thanks Squeezy.

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                    • squeezyjohn
                      Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 2497

                      #11
                      Extreme, you can't really chop them up the size of an Oliver Twist or Piccanell as the rope it's made from is about 3 times as thick. So the smallest you can easily cut it to is about the size of what I'd consider a standard pris of lös. However - this amount seems to give the same kind of satisfaction nicotine-wise that a normal portion does ... plus it doesn't fall to bits like lös so you can get rid of it more discretely.

                      It didn't make me salivate any more than lös does - however, I tend to have a bit of an iron constitution and swallow the residue of whichever tobacco I put in my mouth. I think what does come off might be a bit more acidic than snus juice though so I'd be careful.

                      I agree - it's expensive if you're going to take one bite and hate it. I did say it might not be for everyone - even piccannels are a bit sweetened with something (propylene glycol often used as a humectant in tobacco products has some sweetness to it) - but with the marschall schnecke there is absolutely none. Possibly it could benefit from something sweet (I never thought I'd ever say something like that!) maybe soaking in booze as suggested could do the trick.

                      Cheers

                      Squeezy

                      (who is English - not a Euro whatever that is!)
                      Squeezyjohn

                      Sometimes wrong and sometimes right .... but ALWAYS certain!!!

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                      • lxskllr
                        Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 13435

                        #12
                        Originally posted by squeezyjohn

                        (who is English - not a Euro whatever that is!)
                        Sorry mate. England is no more. You gave up your sovereignty to the EU ;^)

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                        • Frosted
                          Member
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 5798

                          #13
                          Originally posted by lxskllr
                          Sorry mate. England is no more. You gave up your sovereignty to the EU ;^)
                          We haven't given up sovereignty yet. There would have to be a referendum for that. We're in it but we aren't.

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                          • Frosted
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                            • Mar 2010
                            • 5798

                            #14
                            Mr. Snuff only have 4 of these 250g left :-(

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                            • lxskllr
                              Member
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 13435

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Extreme
                              We haven't given up sovereignty yet. There would have to be a referendum for that. We're in it but we aren't.
                              Well, hopefully you don't get tied up tighter than you are.

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