Latest TSNA results from Timberwolf moist snuff (dip)

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  • Snusdog
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    • Jun 2008
    • 6752

    #16
    I wonder what (if any) impact this study will have on policy makers.

    It seems that a whole line of such studies are beginning to mount up..............and yet policy is heading in the opposite direction
    When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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    • lxskllr
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      • Sep 2007
      • 13435

      #17
      Originally posted by Snusdog
      I wonder what (if any) impact this study will have on policy makers.

      It seems that a whole line of such studies are beginning to mount up..............and yet policy is heading in the opposite direction
      Truth isn't the objective, only furthering anti tobacco ideology. More of the same will happen.

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      • stubby2
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        • Jun 2009
        • 436

        #18
        Originally posted by Snusify
        Here is a section of the document that shows they found no link between american dip and mortality through oral cancer.

        Please note that this does not apply to the practice of dipping dry snuff which is proven to case oral cancer.
        Also consider that the TSNA levels have gone down a good deal since those studies where done, both in Sweden and the USA. I have a feeling the gum problems from USA made dip is mostly from the sugar that is used. Perhaps the cut also.

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        • Snusify
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          • Aug 2009
          • 623

          #19
          Originally posted by stubby2
          Also consider that the TSNA levels have gone down a good deal since those studies where done, both in Sweden and the USA. I have a feeling the gum problems from USA made dip is mostly from the sugar that is used. Perhaps the cut also.
          Snus can also cause gum recession if you did not know. Having said that the finer the cut of the tobacco the kinder it is on the gums. This why I find snus kinder on the gums compared to say grizzly long cut wintergreen. Copenhagen snuff is kinder on the gums than long cut.

          Portion snus causes least gum problems of them all.
          Snus and Dip Video Reviews


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          • heders
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            • Jan 2011
            • 2227

            #20
            Originally posted by Snusify
            Please note that this does not apply to the practice of dipping dry snuff which is proven to case oral cancer.
            Dry snuff as in nasal snuff?

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            • lxskllr
              Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 13435

              #21
              Originally posted by heders
              Dry snuff as in nasal snuff?
              That's how it's used in America. All those American dry snuffs you see are almost 100% used orally by the natives. Using snuff nasally is virtually unknown here.

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              • heders
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                • Jan 2011
                • 2227

                #22
                Originally posted by lxskllr
                That's how it's used in America. All those American dry snuffs you see are almost 100% used orally by the natives. Using snuff nasally is virtually unknown here.
                Woah. So snuff brands like Rooster etc are dipped by some people?

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                • lxskllr
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                  • Sep 2007
                  • 13435

                  #23
                  Originally posted by heders
                  Woah. So snuff brands like Rooster etc are dipped by some people?
                  Yup. It's more a southern thing, and traditionally used by women. I have no idea who's using it these days, but it's selling in MD. I've never seen anyone use dry snuff. I'm guessing it's old timers, and once they're gone, the American brands will start to fade away. If you have any interest in American snuff, I'd get them while you can. For the most part, they keep very well, and will be good decades into the future with proper care.

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                  • Snusify
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                    • Aug 2009
                    • 623

                    #24
                    Originally posted by heders
                    Dry snuff as in nasal snuff?
                    Yes dipping nasal snuff has the highest TSNA's of them all in smokeless tobacco. Used as intended snuffed up the nose presents no major health issues however.

                    It was this oversight in past studies that made the health people say all dipping caused oral cancer.
                    Snus and Dip Video Reviews


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                    • Snusdog
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                      • Jun 2008
                      • 6752

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Snusify
                      Yes dipping nasal snuff has the highest TSNA's of them all in smokeless tobacco. Used as intended snuffed up the nose presents no major health issues however.

                      It was this oversight in past studies that made the health people say all dipping caused oral cancer.

                      And now that they have got it all clear................expect more laws that outlaw ALL dipping
                      When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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