The Red Man long cut, is Straight flavored, which is not Natural flavor, Red Man does have a Natural flavored fine cut. Timber Wolf, and most all brands, have a Straight flavor, and a Natural flavor. The Natural is a more natural salty tobacco, and Straight is a semi sweet spicey smoky flavor.
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So, I should probably try the Timberwolf Natural longcut if I liked the Copenhagen original longcut?Comment
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Yep.Comment
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Unless you buy RedSeal, most American dip cans hold about 34-35 grams. Once I see the PACT prices and the new SM prices and comparing the actual weight of the tobacco vs. price, I'll be making my decision as whether to stick with snus or to buy the low TSNA TimberWolf. I actually like RedMan Natural better than Wolf natural. I just wish I could find some TSNA info for RedMan. I know their both Swedish Match products, but I'm still curious if they are similar in TSNA's.Comment
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Personally, I don't care about TSNA. But, I really don't think the SM owned Pinkerton is doing anything different than the other dip companies.Comment
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I know that Pinkerton still fire-cures their tobacco just like any other dip. However, the Pinkteron product TimberWolf has a TSNA of about 7.5, drastically lower than others on the market which can reach a count as high as 127 ppm of TSNA. It also does not increase exponentially with shelf life unlike the other products. So Swedish Match (being a parent company of Pinkerton), must be using something different in the manufacturing process to produce such low levels of cancer causing agents. I just don't what it is yet.Originally posted by tom502 View PostComment
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Gotta find out where the tobacco comes from. Many tobacco leaf suppliers in fact air, sun, and flue cure their tobaccoComment
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I feel like I've come full circle. I wanted to get away from dip and switch snus due to the spitless factor. Got the Camel crap and then started ordering the real stuff. Now, as I watch my snus stash dwindle without the spare cash to make a big order, I've gotten my first can of Timberwolf straight in several months. I forgot how good this stuff is!
I don't feel so bad about it now that I've read this thread and discovered it's got a low TSNA count.Comment
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You'll lose your teeth before you get cancer.Comment
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I like T. wolf natural quite a bit. I have been using it intermittently with snus over the summer, as the strong taste and spit factor seem to be appealing to me during the summertime. I got a can of the straight the other day, and I fear it is headed for the trashcan. What is the thought process behind straight dips: "You know whats good? Dr. Pepper and dip. Let's mash those two things together."
I am sure that there are people that find that the sweetness enhances the taste of the tobacco, but I am not one of those people. I have yet to find a flavored tobacco product that I like aside from the subtle citrus and pepper of some of the swedish brands. It seems to me that wintergreen tobacco just tastes like wintergreen, straight just tastes like sugary soda, mint just tastes like chewing gum, GR just tastes like gin, et cetera. Tobacco in the buff is where it is at.
I am admittedly a pretty moderate user, though, so I can see how, if one was inclined to use tobacco from the moment they rolled out of bed to the moment the went to sleep, a person might want to switch it up.Comment
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STRAIGHT is an odd flavor, as it's near impossible to define. I guess I'm on the fence forever with it, as times I thought I did not like it. But then I tried the then new Copenhagn Straight, and I was really impresed and liked it a whole lot, it had a sort of berryness about it. It's the best Straight I've had. I also had the Timber Wolf, and thought it was pretty good. I remember Grizzly Straight was good, as was Skoal. When I bought Longhorn Straight, I hated it, but have thought about giving it another try.
Best Straight(all long cut)
1. Copenhagen
2. Grizzly
3. Skoal
4. Timber Wolf
5. Red Man(this was good, but had a weird aftertaste)
6. Longhorn
That's all the Straights I have tried.Comment
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The best straights I've tryed are Copenhagen long cut straight, Cope straight, Grizzly straight , Timberwolf and redman.Comment
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I never tried the Cope Straight. I can't figure out if it's been discontinued or not.Comment
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Strange you say that! I was talking to UserID in another thread not too long ago about how I thought straight dip tasted like root beer to me. Which root beer tastes like pepto bismol to me. I don't like the taste of pepto bismol, hence I don't like the taste of straight dip.Originally posted by f. bandersnatch View Post
Yet, for some reason I will pick up a can of it every once in a while. I think it's because I get bored with just the natural flavor after a while. Not a big fan of wintergreen or mint (though I do like them occasionally in the summer). I hate fruit flavored dip. So that pretty much leaves me with natural.
I really wish Pinkerton tobacco would introduce Timberwolf or Redman Black. A very bold, dark tobacco, with maybe a hint of whiskey. I know other brands offer a "black", but after initially switching to Swedish snus for the lower tsna, I just feel too guilty using a dip from a company other than Pinkerton. Pinkerton...are you listening? Redman Black!Comment
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I thought cope straight tasted like root beer, so I am right there with you. I agree with you about pinkerton also. I know its still dip, but it treats my gums oh so much better than cope did ( i use dip with much more moderation thanks to snus, so that could have something to do with it also.)
And great idea with the black. They should do away with either the straight or wintergreen, which are both abundantly produced in the market and both of which already have loyal customers within other brands, and make that. It would fit well within the brand (like a dip version of redman select) and it would get some cross pollination into the redman brand from entrenched users within the other dip brands.Comment
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