How to raise the PH in your snus

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  • sgreger1
    Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 9451

    #1

    How to raise the PH in your snus

    Is there any way to manually add salt or something to your portioned snus that would raise the PH or in some way allow for a higher absorbtion rate.

    Also, flavor doens't matter, just curious if you can manually **** with the PH to get a snus crack hit.
  • RRK
    Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 926

    #2
    Sure, the snus companies use sodium carbonate which you can obtain by baking some baking soda at about 400 degrees for 4 hours. But, be very careful this stuff is strongly basic and must be used in small amounts. If I were you I would test the ph of the snus you have altered by mixing about a gram with 10 ml of distilled water. Allow it to mix for at least an hour and test it with a ph strip. Anything over 9 is probably not good to use. Swedish match goes to 8.5 which results in nearly 75% free form nicotine and is one of the higher ph used in snus.

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    • sgreger1
      Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 9451

      #3
      Why is over 9 not good to use?

      So basicly SM has already done their best attempt at high nicotine absorbtion and my feeble attempts to somehow make the Sterk portions stronger is useless.

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      • RRK
        Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 926

        #4
        Well since the free nicotine goes from 50% at 8 to 75% at 8.5 I just figured anything higher would be overkill and could start to get dangerous since strong bases can burn you just like strong acids do.

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        • sgreger1
          Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 9451

          #5
          Ah, good point.

          Still, the dardevil in me wants to try 9.5!!!!! :twisted:

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          • texasmade
            Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 4159

            #6
            i say at max leave it at 8.7

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            • texasmade
              Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 4159

              #7
              Originally posted by RRK
              Sure, the snus companies use sodium carbonate which you can obtain by baking some baking soda at about 400 degrees for 4 hours. But, be very careful this stuff is strongly basic and must be used in small amounts. If I were you I would test the ph of the snus you have altered by mixing about a gram with 10 ml of distilled water. Allow it to mix for at least an hour and test it with a ph strip. Anything over 9 is probably not good to use. Swedish match goes to 8.5 which results in nearly 75% free form nicotine and is one of the higher ph used in snus.

              how much would you use for a tin of los and would you need to moisten more or just mix it straight in?

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              • RRK
                Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 926

                #8
                Originally posted by texasmade
                how much would you use for a tin of los and would you need to moisten more or just mix it straight in?
                I dont know. I have never done it before. If I was going to try I would dilute it with distilled water maybe at about 10% and do some tests with 1 gram so that I could just scale it up.

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                • texasmade
                  Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 4159

                  #9
                  i might try this soon

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                  • Mr. Snuffleupagus
                    Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 2781

                    #10
                    Shouldn't take much. The packets that come with the kit are maybe a tablespoon each or so. I used two packets for 23 cans of lös!

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                    • texasmade
                      Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 4159

                      #11
                      how much was it all together?

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                      • justintempler
                        Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 3090

                        #12
                        Too much work...

                        For General lössnus, sodium carbonate in the finished product is 1.7%

                        45grams x 1.7% = 850 milligrams per can

                        If you guys want more nic, it's so much easier to double barrel
                        or
                        just start dippin' some Cope. :roll:

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                        • texasmade
                          Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 4159

                          #13
                          hey...its all in the spirit of fun mr rain on my parade :cry:

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                          • Mr. Snuffleupagus
                            Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 2781

                            #14
                            Originally posted by justintempler
                            Too much work...

                            For General lössnus, sodium carbonate in the finished product is 1.7%

                            45grams x 1.7% = 850 milligrams per can

                            If you guys want more nic, it's so much easier to double barrel
                            or
                            just start dippin' some Cope. :roll:
                            If you think that's too much work, you're gonna have a hell of a time growing your own tobacco IMO.

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                            • justintempler
                              Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 3090

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mr. Snuffleupagus
                              If you think that's too much work, you're gonna have a hell of a time growing your own tobacco IMO.
                              No, his problem is he's trying to raise the pH in such a small amount of snus. It's going to be hard to walk the line between too little and too much. Plus he has to add water so he can evenly distribute it and then let it dry back to the orignal level.

                              I've pretty much decided when I start doing it, I'll be working in batches of 250grams of raw tobacco which translates to 750 grams of finished snus. I've got a digital gram scale, I'm going to spring for a pH meter, I've already got test sieves so I can get consistent grain size....

                              It's going to be a real pain. :roll:

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