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  • heders
    Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 2227

    #1

    Eeew... Old snuff? (Picture)

    So I went to a store here in Gothenburg which had "Fribourgh & Treyer - Santo Domingo". I bought a can, since I've heard F&T is a really good brand, and was suprised to see it in stock in a store where I live.


    However, when, I opened the can, I see this:





    Full size: http://i40.tinypic.com/rc9ba8.jpg


    Does this mean the can I got is old? I don't think the store sells a lot of snuff, so it might have been there many years...

    It looks like the snuff has been wet or something and made mess... I don't know if it's good to use this...

    Should I return it, or is it normal?


    What do you think?
  • Ansel
    Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 3696

    #2
    Don't use it! I wouldn't.

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    • Monkey
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 3290

      #3
      I wouldn't use it.

      Santo Domingo is an almost black, moist snuff when fresh AND that tin is corroded and nasty.

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      • lxskllr
        Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 13435

        #4
        That happens with the Santo Domingo. I recently had to transfer mine to a spice jar. The aluminum was oxidizing, and leaving flakes in the can. Carefully dump it out, and put it in another container, and it should be fine. Snuffing bits of oxidized aluminum probably isn't ideal, but it doesn't bother me enough to toss out good snuff.

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        • heders
          Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 2227

          #5
          Originally posted by Ansel
          Don't use it! I wouldn't.
          Thanks for your input! I have only taken one little sniff so far. It tasted pretty bad... the consistency was very strange. Coarse as hell.

          I'll return it! It's a very strange shop.

          I bought a can of Athertons snuff - Sandal wood, and it was a display can. I wouldn't be suprised if the can is 10 years old, lol. Should I return that as well?

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          • Ansel
            Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 3696

            #6
            Originally posted by heders
            I bought a can of Athertons snuff - Sandal wood, and it was a display can. I wouldn't be suprised if the can is 10 years old, lol. Should I return that as well?
            Don't know but i love sandalwood snuff.

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            • heders
              Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 2227

              #7
              Thanks Monkey and lxskllr. Wow, extremely fast answers here! Awesome!

              I don't feel like I want to use it right now. It looks pretty nasty... Monkey and lxskllr: You wrote two different answers. However, this looks too wierd to use... I think I will return it.

              How long will snuff keep fresh btw? The other Sandal wood can I bought is very dry; goes straight to your sinuses, even with the lightest sniff. It also smells like granny perfume. Haha, I don't know if that's how it should taste, but I'm slightly worried since the store is not exactly famous for having fresh stuff. They have EVERYTHING (clothes, sunglasses, snus, snuff, cigarettes, pipes, combs, condoms, candy, drinks, cannabis grinders, cannabis pipes, snuff tools, drug scales, etc.)... and like 80% of the stuff (except for the stuff people actually buy) is old.

              EDIT: Ansel: Thanks for your answer as well. Does my description match the sandal wood flavor? It was nothing like I would imagine it.

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              • Ansel
                Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 3696

                #8
                Well sandalwood may not be for you - i can see how you think it smells of granny perfume lol but i like it.

                Nasal snuff can store for a long time i think but i'd be more worried about a can corroding/oxidising like yours did than the snuff itself. Personally i wouldn't use that one in the photo - i'd just chuck it out as it's cheap (here in the UK anyway) and will keep stores stocking the stuff...

                But it can be dry... my sandalwood snuff by Gawith Hoggarth (may well be a sister company of Athertons) is dry... in my left nostril it goes up so easily, too easily. With my right nostil less easily. But, you only need to sniff VERY VERY gently.

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                • lxskllr
                  Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 13435

                  #9
                  As Ansel said, I think Athertons is a Gawith Hoggarth brand. I'm honestly not a big fan of their snuff. It's as dry as dust, and some of their scents seem overly synthetic. There's a couple I like, but I could go the rest of my life without them.

                  For the Santo Domingo, it should be very coarse, and pretty wet(the reason the aluminum oxidizes). The scent should be herby, and earthy, and fairly difficult to snuff due to its weight. It's kind of like snuffing forest loam. As long as there isn't much aluminum in it, I'd keep it, but that's me.

                  I don't care for the aluminum tubes. They're kind of nice, and kind of not too. I think glass would be better for this purpose.

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                  • Ansel
                    Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 3696

                    #10
                    Originally posted by lxskllr
                    and some of their scents seem overly synthetic.


                    I find the two favourites: sandalwood and eucalyptus to smell as pure as the driven snow to me.

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                    • Ansel
                      Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 3696

                      #11
                      By the way Heders i think Athertons use the same packaging as GH. So the modern packaging should be plastic if it's not maybe it is older... but that's just my hunch.

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                      • heders
                        Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 2227

                        #12
                        Originally posted by lxskllr
                        As Ansel said, I think Athertons is a Gawith Hoggarth brand. I'm honestly not a big fan of their snuff. It's as dry as dust, and some of their scents seem overly synthetic. There's a couple I like, but I could go the rest of my life without them.

                        For the Santo Domingo, it should be very coarse, and pretty wet(the reason the aluminum oxidizes). The scent should be herby, and earthy, and fairly difficult to snuff due to its weight. It's kind of like snuffing forest loam. As long as there isn't much aluminum in it, I'd keep it, but that's me.

                        I don't care for the aluminum tubes. They're kind of nice, and kind of not too. I think glass would be better for this purpose.
                        Ahh! It is indeed suprisingly coarse, but dry as hell (probably why the aluminum oxides as you say). The scent is pretty much spot on, but I think it's pretty easy to snuff. I've only taken one pinch so far, but I could feel the snuff grain in my nose. Never done that before... If I clean the can out, put the snuff back in, and maybe add some moisture to it (a drop of water in the can?), will it be ok? Is it dangerous to snuff? I don't think it's any aluminum in the can... at least what I can see.

                        Originally posted by Ansel
                        By the way Heders i think Athertons use the same packaging as GH. So the modern packaging should be plastic if it's not maybe it is older... but that's just my hunch.
                        Yeah, it's plastic! However, from my guess, I think this one is very old. The one in the store I talked to said her parents owned the store before her, and that for the time she had worked there, F&T had made very good snuff. I think no one has bought a can of it since her parents worked there honestly, lol. It's probably at least 5 years old, haha. Is old snuff in any way bad for you? Should I return it if it's bad?

                        And how do you know if a snuff is too old (or have gone bad)?

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                        • Ansel
                          Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 3696

                          #13
                          Well i wouldn't worry how old the tobacco is personally and i'd keep the Atherton's and use it.

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                          • lxskllr
                            Member
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 13435

                            #14
                            I think the only way a snuff would be bad is if it were moldy. I haven't run into that yet. Old snuff dries out, and loses a bit of its scent. That can be good or bad. Some snuff does better with some mellowing imo.

                            If you decide to keep the Santo Domingo, I'd put it in a different container. A spice bottle works great. The corrosion will only get worse, and it'll start getting in the snuff.

                            Higher levels of aluminum have been found in Alzheimer patients. Cause/effect hasn't yet been determined, so I try to limit my aluminum exposure. I don't really care for the metal anyway. It's kind of light and ugly. In any case, I don't think that small amount of aluminum would be any worse than using aluminum cookware, or any of the other things people use aluminum for, and consume.

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                            • Ansel
                              Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 3696

                              #15
                              some people on snuffhouse have bought old cans of snuff off ebay and used them. would be much older than yours as they are old brands not made anymore.

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