are TSNAs as important with Nasal snuff?

[Ansel]

are TSNAs as important with Nasal snuff? if i'm putting something in my mouth i want it to have a low TSNA count but when you're putting snuff up your nose does it matter so much? (especially if you don't get any drip or any snuff going down the back of your throat. What goes in comes out right?

[lxskllr]

I've pondered this myself. I think TSNAs will be bad regardless of where they're placed. What makes nasal snuff better is the highly reduced quantity used. It's hard to say though. You don't hear about nose cancer, but you don't really hear about snuffers either. It's a tiny niche in the tobacco world.

[Ansel]

I've pondered this myself. I think TSNAs will be bad regardless of where they're placed. What makes nasal snuff better is the highly reduced quantity used. It's hard to say though. You don't hear about nose cancer, but you don't really hear about snuffers either. It's a tiny niche in the tobacco world.

Hmm yeah, when you kind of use a schmaltzer like i do you are holding the tobacco in place in your nostril so it is there for longer. I guess pasteurization/air-cured tobacco is an option...

[Skell18]

I know Toque has the lowest TSNA levels of any tobacco product from what I hear, lower than snus! Its perfectly safe, most snuffs these days will be the same so I wouldn't worry about it too much, there has never been any report cases of someone development any kind of cancer from using snuff, no snuff manufacturers have ever had a law suit brought against them like cigarette manufacturers have. Some food for thought

[Ansel]

I think Toque always/sometimes uses air-cured tobacco for its snuff so that's half the battle.

[Sweet-N-Salty]

The sun cured tobacco listed in 6 Photo snuffs http://www.6photosnuff.com/ kinda lured me in. I've never had any of them so hopefully they aren't too crazy on the perfume/floral scents. For the record I ordered a nice selection of Toque today also

[Ephemeris]

I've pondered this myself. I think TSNAs will be bad regardless of where they're placed. What makes nasal snuff better is the highly reduced quantity used. It's hard to say though. You don't hear about nose cancer, but you don't really hear about snuffers either. It's a tiny niche in the tobacco world.

It's really hard to find a physician or scientist that will even comment on the probability.

Otorhinolaryngologists that we've tried to interview won't give much except that cancer of the nose/sinus passages is extremely rare. So rare that the symptoms would be so pronounced that you would have no choice but to undergo surgery before the lesions/tumors could become cancerous. If you wake up one day and can't breath through your nose and you feel like you've got concrete underneath your eyes and this lasts more than a week, you should probably see an ENT specialist.

My point is that even is the TSNAs in nasal snuff matter at all, the results are almost always treatable before it becomes cancerous. Consider that the rate of nasal cancer today is statistically the same as it was 200 years ago when EVERYONE used snuff (made from tobacco that was probably much higher in TSNAs than we have now) abd you'll walk away not really caring about the negligible health risks of using nasal snuff.

Conversely, studies have shown that when high-TSNA nasal snuff is dipped (used orally) it is very likely to usher in cancer of the oral cavity. But, like nasal cancer, oral cancer is a very rare disease as far as cancers go and is almost always treatable and rarely fatal.

That would leave me to believe that the nasal passages are just more resilient than the oral cavity. Is it because the nose is built almost like an air filter on a car, and is designed for "high stress" duties? I think so. It isn't under as constant an attack from bacteria and foreign objects like our mouths are.

So while the thought of using high TSNA nasal snuff doesn't much appeal to me when there are low-TSNA alternatives like Toque on the market, I don't think it's much of a risk at all. But don't come stalk me when you have a walnut sized tumor growing in front of your brain... (just kidding ;/)

[Ansel]

Thanks again Ephemeris :-) informative as always.