Snuff & Health

[Veganpunk]

That Bat Rastard and his WTF in the box challenge has perked my interest (and my nasal cavities!) in snuff. Are they any negative effects to snuff? Not worried about the nicotine addiction, as I'm far past that! I browsed around the internets, and only found info saying pretty much the same thing it does for snus. Any imput from you nasal snuff junkies??

[shikitohno]

There was a fellow over on snuffhouse who believes it either caused or contributed to his emphysema, due to particles of it getting to his lungs and irritating them. Not much research on it, so it's hard to say.

[Veganpunk]

hmm... kinda scary. Unless it's like the case of the 1 90 year old guy who got cancer where he snused all his life. Also, where's the best place to buy. I looked at Northerner, and it seems like 4-5 dollars a tin. How long would an average tin last, as to me that's kinda high compared to snus.

[lxskllr]

I consider snuff to be safer than snus. There was an Indian woman who got nose cancer from snuff, but the article didn't say specifically what kind of snuff she was using. There's some ethnic blends of snuff, as well as oral tobacco that are VERY hazardous to health, but it has more to do with the /extra/ ingredients that are added more than the tobacco.

I'm pretty dubious of the Snuffhouse emphysema claims. He stated he got it within a few months. I'm not a doctor, but I think emphysema takes longer than that to develop. If you were really concerned about that, you could stick with the heavier/moister snuffs to make sure they don't go into your lungs. I really don't worry about it. I use snuff about 10 times per day, and I can't discern any change whatsoever in my health.

Edit:
Snuff lasts forever. That $4 tin will last you weeks unless you're a huge snuff fiend. Snuff's the greatest tobacco bargain out there. I'm amazed it's as cheap as it is :^)

[daruckis]

yeah snuff lasts forever dude. it would probably take me months to kill a 10 gram toque tin. i dont use it often though, but when i do, i go overboard.

[spirit72]

Yeah, I read the post over at Snuffhouse too, and I'm a little dubious about it as well.

I feel for the man, I'm definitely not calling BS, but I think there's gotta be more to it than snuff. I'm not a doctor either...I know that several different factors lead to emphysema, but it basically results from long-term exposure to environmental pollutants. Coal miners get it. Living and working in heavy industry can cause it. Smokers are another obvious one....but most people smoke for decades before emphysema sets in. So from a clear scan to emphysema in a matter of months.....ehhh, I dunno. I think there's likely a bigger picture.

Just my two bits, I guess.

[AP]

Samuel Gawith: Scotch Black/Kendal Brown (Original,Special,Plain or Scented)/London Brown/Black Rapee/Black Coffee
Fribourg & Trayer: Princes/Princes Special/Old Paris
Gawith Hoggarth: Kendal Brown
Snuff Store:Blenders Bundle
Poschl (I think they are all very easy to use but they will clog your nose more then the other ones )
Wilson of Sharrow: Strasbourg/Princes/Kendal Brown
Toque: Peppermint/Snus Ice/Peanut Butter /Menthol
Mc Chrystals: O&G/S'nuff


My point is: Begin with coarse/medium moist snuffs and you will learn how to keep the snuff in the front part of you nose :wink:

[Tristik]

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Loved the Toque Menthol. However, I gots me some issues with allergies and the snuff certainly didn't help with the itchy noses, so I stopped using it :lol:
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[Veganpunk]

Thanks for the replies guys. I'm pretty stocked up on snus atm, so I think my next order will be snuff and an Icetool. 8)

[tom502]

I'm preparing to put a bunch of my snuff on the exchange thread this weekend. I have my faves I'll keep, but I just don't use it much, and a tin will last we near forever, as I just use a little at a time.

[midnightmosesuk]

The snuff/emphysema thing? Ummm.... that was me :cry:

[lxskllr]

The snuff/emphysema thing? Ummm.... that was me :cry:

I didn't want to call you out :^D

Any updates on that?

[Veganpunk]

I ordered my 10 tin (haha) sampler from Touqe yesterday. Can't wait!!!

[midnightmosesuk]

The snuff/emphysema thing? Ummm.... that was me :cry:

I didn't want to call you out :^D

Any updates on that?

Well, I thought I had to say something. An astute bunch of folks such as yourselves would put 2+2 together sooner or later.

Yes, I have emphysema. It's in it's very early stages but my health is otherwise very good. It ain't worrying me. Do I think snuff caused it? No, not directly but I think it exacerbated it and may have aggravated a previous condition. I still love snuff and would encourage anyone to use it in place of cigarettes. In my case I just got dealt aces and eights.....

The responses I received from the other forum were rather unwarranted I think and caught me by surprise. I was hoping that it would lead to some intelligent debate instead I was seen as a trouble maker and a killjoy. It's a real shame. Having said that, I got some very supportive comments too, so it wasn't all bad.

I really miss Spanish Gem.

[lxskllr]

The snuff/emphysema thing? Ummm.... that was me :cry:

I didn't want to call you out :^D

Any updates on that?

Well, I thought I had to say something. An astute bunch of folks such as yourselves would put 2+2 together sooner or later.

Yes, I have emphysema. It's in it's very early stages but my health is otherwise very good. It ain't worrying me. Do I think snuff caused it? No, not directly but I think it exacerbated it and may have aggravated a previous condition. I still love snuff and would encourage anyone to use it in place of cigarettes. In my case I just drew aces and eights.....

The responses I received from the other forum were rather unwarranted I think and caught me by surprise. I was hoping that it would lead to some intelligent debate instead I seen as a trouble maker and a killjoy. It's a real shame. Having said that, I got some very supportive comments too, so it wasn't all bad.

I really miss Spanish Gem.

Yea, I thought some of the responses were a little overboard. I treat your story as evidence, and people can give it whatever weight they want. Honestly, I don't give it a lot of weight since yours is the first case I've heard, but it's filed away for future reference and cross check :^)

Have you tried any schmalzlers? They're very nice and rich, and should stay out of your lungs.