Schmalzler Questions

[Monkey]

I just got my new order of snuff today and got a Bernard's schmalzler to try in it.
I think it tastes like figs or dates and is delicious. I was under the assumption they had menthol in them from some descriptions of schmalzlers.
I usually snuff FUBAR grunt, medic and r'n'r and have lots of experience with American scotches and sweets. I like Toque's selections I've had and the Wilson's and McChrystals I've tried. They have all been fine and drier than the Bernard's.
This is the heaviest snuff I've ever had and I think that's what's putting me off.
I'm not sure if I'm expalining it well enough but seems like its the moisture content or "clumpiness factor" that I'm not a fan of. I cut a little of it with some Toque menthol and that seems to help but the nose feel is killing me when the menthol wears off.
Are they all so heavy?
Anyone have a suggestion for a "lighter" (drier?) schmalzler or is the consistency the draw? Or is the style schmalzler and are the flavors different?
Is this a water based vs oil based issue for me? I read something about that on another thread but I don't remember which one it was and am not knowledgable at all on production differences of brands.
Mike

[Premium Parrots]

try leaving the tin open for a few hours to dry out somewhat. I personally don't like moist nasal snuffs.

[shikitohno]

Schmalzlers as a style of snuff, in my experience, are typically moist, coarse to medium ground, and range from plain tobacco to fruity smelling, with most leaning towards the fruity. Zweifacher, Amostrinha, Alt-Bayerischer, and Jubiläums 275 Jahre are all mentholated. Still, that's generally how they're "supposed" to be. Coarse, light and fluffy is how I'd describe them. You could try going for the Civette Extrafein, Pariser Nº 2 or Pöschl Perlesreuter Schmalzler for finer ground stuff, but they're still going to tend to be on the moist and clumpy side. I believe that's been chalked up to paraffin oil being used to retain moisture on Snuffhouse, but it's currently down, so I can't check that for you. Still, perhaps now's not the time for you to take schmalzlers. If it still bugs you, try taking less or give it a break and come back to them in a month or two.

Of course, if you absolutely can't stand them, I could take care of them for you... :lol:

Edit: The paraffin oil thing only definitively applies to Pöschl schmalzlers. I'm pretty much 99% sure Pöschl uses it, but maybe around 75% on Bernards using it.

[lxskllr]

Schmalzlers as a style of snuff, in my experience, are typically moist, coarse to medium ground, and range from plain tobacco to fruity smelling, with most leaning towards the fruity.

This is the definition of schmalzler. If it doesn't look like the above, it's either not a schmalzler, or it's too old. Schmalz means lard, which comes from the time they used lard as the oiling ingredient. AFAIK, all the companies use paraffin as the oil these days.

[Monkey]

Thank you for the info.
Looks like I'm staying away from any schmalzlers in the future. It feels like my nose is coated and I don't like the feel of it in there.
Do any other snuffs use the parrifin oil or is it mostly a german schmalzler thing?

Mike

[lxskllr]

Thank you for the info.
Looks like I'm staying away from any schmalzlers in the future. It feels like my nose is coated and I don't like the feel of it in there.
Do any other snuffs use the parrifin oil or is it mostly a german schmalzler thing?

Mike

AFAIK, only the German brands use oil. The moist English snuffs use water(or something else light). Roderick might have some insight as to what the English companies use.

[shikitohno]

I think some have complained of other Pöschls using paraffin oil, particularly the menthols. The President, Packard's Club and Gawith Apricot they do come up on Snuffhouse from time to time with complaints of such. Going solely off your description of the flavour, I'm guessing you've probably got the Klostermischung from Bernard's, although there's a good chance I'm wrong. If I'm right, that's really the finer end of the schmalzler grind spectrum, and it's actually kind of dry compared to some of them. I'd say don't write them all off based on one sample though. Put what you have away in a drawer, and come back to it later, although it'll probably go bad quicker then most snuffs. But also try out something else, as the schmalzlers are nicely varied bunch for flavours.

If it's the nose feel that bothers you, I'd say just use small doses. No bigger than an appleseed for each nostril, and that should help alleviate the feeling that your nose is lined with snuff. Otherwise, you're missing out on some truly delicious snuffs. Of course, that means there's more for me!

[RRK]

I find the schmalzlers kind of melt in the nose and I enjoy the texture but it is a totally different experience then any other snuff I have tried. To me if I use one snuff all the time it loses its flavor and interest so variety is key.

[tom502]

Maybe put in on a plate, and let it dry some, and take a knife and chop it up? I have not any schmalzers, I do have a Klostermishung, but was told that's not a schmalzer, I also have another Bernards, Alt Archenback, something like that, and I don't think it's a schmalzer, I know I am misspelling that too.

[Monkey]

Its the aecht altbayerischer schmalzler.
I may revisit the schmalzler style in the future but I really don't like the feel. I'm almost sad as the flavor is fantastic, but I've always had issues with oily textures that coat and this extends to my schnozz.
Is it correct to assume that since it is an oil base, even if I dry it out the oil and feel of oil will still be present in it even though the water moisture evaporated?
Mike

[lxskllr]

Its the aecht altbayerischer schmalzler.
I may revisit the schmalzler style in the future but I really don't like the feel. I'm almost sad as the flavor is fantastic, but I've always had issues with oily textures that coat and this extends to my schnozz.
Is it correct to assume that since it is an oil base, even if I dry it out the oil and feel of oil will still be present in it even though the water moisture evaporated?
Mike

It's hard to say. I've had some that I let sit too long, and it has a different nose feel, but I don't know if it feels less oily or not. I don't like old schmalzler as well as fresh, but I like the nose feel of the fresh stuff. Give it a try and see. You aren't happy with it now, so you have nothing to lose.

[Monkey]

I have a small bit drying out now so I shall see how it hits me.
On a side note, as I wait I've been hitting the SG Kendall Brown I ordered. Wow. Old leather and books. I like it. Makes me want to have a port and put on my robe.
Mike

[daruckis]

sounds kind of like the issues im having with f&t santo domingo. its not a german, but its very coarse and heavy, thus i can hardly get it into my nose some days. my right nostrils always essentially worthless, i can only snuff with it by pinching and literally holding it inside my nose and sniffing fairly hard (except with toasts) or actually rubbing it inside my nose, but that doesnt work well with the santo domingo. my left nostril i can take things from the back of my hand and whatnot, but sometimes with the santo domingo i try to take a bump, wait a second, realize i barely got any of it, and that most of it took a detour into my mustache.

[RRK]

most of it took a detour into my mustache.

My mustache actually saves me a little snuff. If I notice a dusting on my stache I just kinda pucker my lips and sniff the leftover.

[Scuba Steve]

I received four of the Bernards on my lastest order. I'm really digging the Zwiefacher right now. Although, I too sometimes suffer from the snuff stache.