Oliver Twists and Stonewall

[bondzai]

I got curious re: Oliver Twists and found out they sell them in town here, so at lunch went over and picked up a couple tins. They are plastic containers about the size of a box of matches. Inside the bits are all in a foil pack that is sealed. The date code on mine are in August. I picked up a can of Tropical which to me tastes like Licorice. I like it. I also got a can of Wintergreen. I don't know about the nicotine hit because I had a large portion in my mouth just before putting it in. But these are very discreet and tasty. Will have to try them when my mouth is fresh. They cost like 4.69 a tin. I also picked up some Stonewall Dry Snuff which looks like a pill. You put it in your mouth I think like a candy and it melts but you don't spit. These are like 2.50 a pack of 20. They don't look like they ever expire. I got one pack of Java and one of Wintergreen. Haven't tried them yet.

[bondzai]

stonewall

sorry, they are not Stonewall Dry Snuff... though they are very dry... they are hard snuff.

[eli]

Looking at the Star Scientific page, as well as knowyoursnuff.com the thing that comes across as strange is the limited information on the individual products (varities, etc...). It looks as though this company is definitely taking a page from the Swedish tobacco manual. Looks promising.

[Xobeloot]

I like the occasional oliver twist. Never tried stonewalls, but I believe TropicalBob is a big fan of them. MAy need to pick up a pack one of these days. Gas station right next to my apartment sells both OT and SW.

[bondzai]

so far I love the oliver twist tropical. I don't believe its going to irritate my gums like the portions do.

[eli]

I should say their moist snuff products, lots of info on the dissolving snuff, which seems interesting.

[GoldenRider8]

I've used Stonewalls quite a bit and I love them. I don't think there is an item with a better cost-to-product ratio that I enjoy more. Tiny, extremely discreet, and not bad flavor. IF your expecting a good tobacco flavor like you get from Oliver Twists or your Snus, you'll be sorely dissapointed, but other than that, I dig them.

[eli]

Darn, I'm too hip to the tobacco flavor..

[Anti]

Never heard of Stonewall. Anyone know if it's sold around the Texas area?

[TropicalBob]

My kind of topic! I love both. In fact, soon as I finish typing this, I'm off to the tobacco store to stock up on Stonewall Java (down to the Final Four). I've gotten to the point that I make sure I have one tab almost open when I go to sleep, because the first thing I do after waking up is pop in a Stonewall and head for the coffee maker.

The OTs have real tobacco flavor. I used to use only the "Senior" flavor, which was the highest level of nicotine (8mg) and strongest pure tobacco taste. Then the company got criticised for levels that sounded like college - Freshman to Senior. They dropped all of those, and no longer have the extra-strong bits. "Regular" is the only pure tobacco flavor. I like Tropical fairly well, but the Wintergreen makes me nauseus. It's the only OT I ever threw away in disgust.

Stonewalls are 4mg nicotine but, of course, you could do two of the tiny things at once. It's their taste that I so enjoy. They're also the first thing I do when I finish a meal. It's like a coffee dessert. Pop in a Stonewall and grab a toothpick.

These don't replace daily snus use for me. I just like to mix up the pattern. I find snusing most unlike cigarette smoking, where we found one brand and pledged a lifetime loyalty oath to it. With snusing, enjoying many flavors is just plain fun.

Here's a worry: Star Scientific, maker of Stonewall (and its weak sister, Ariva), just lost a multi-million lawsuit against R.J. Reynolds over patent rights. I hope I don't see a Wall Street Journal article before long about Star Scientific being "restructured" or some such coded crap for Big Trouble.

[eli]

lost as in Star was infringing on RJ reynolds patent, or Star tried to get RJR and failed, the first would be doom, the second, well, not so much.

[Premium Parrots]

I've tried the OTs and wasn't impressed. I also tried the stonewall wintergreen and again wasn't impressed. However, since reading Ole Bobs reviiew of the java I'm off to the tobacco store to get some of the stonewall java so I can give it a try. I'm countin on ya Bob aka Master of Nicotine. I'll let you know if they fit my tastes. Thanks for the reference.
PP

[bondzai]

Java

Well at lunch I also stopped by Macdonalds and bought one of those new Sugar Free Vanilla Iced Coffees which I love. Now as a result of Bob's and Parrots posts, I popped in one of those Java Stonewalls and it tastes pretty much like the iced coffee! I like it. It says to put it between your cheek and gum, but I just want to suck on this thing like a lemon drop or something.

[eli]

I imagine you could do that, but you'd be depriving yourself of the nicotine. In products like snus and these lozenges (and nicotine gum) the nicotine is absorbed through the mucosa of the gums, stomach enzymes/acids pretty much destroy nicotine.

[cigator]

So I'm getting that a single serving of Stonewall is about the same as a 1g pris or single Oliver Twist?