Health risk Oliver Twist - Snus

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  • STORM6490MT
    Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 138

    #16
    Re: Health risk Oliver Twist - Snus

    Originally posted by alfseidel
    Hello,

    I would like to know if anybody has some detailled information about the health risk of Oliver Twist (OT) compared to snus. Is it the same? Or is OT more like American chewing tobacco?
    I like OT sometimes, because it is so discreet.
    Thanks for answers

    Alf
    oliver twist is fire treated tobacco that is smoked. far more dangerous than regular swedish snus but less than american chew. i liked it till it gave me the shits.

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    • Dead Rabbit
      Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 315

      #17
      Originally posted by TropicalBob
      There is a very technical paper available online that compares almost all smokeless options, including Oliver Twist, to cigarettes in causing oral cancers. Swedish snus are highlighted. It's in Adobe PDF. Material of interest is in tables 2 and 3 on pages marked as 257 and 258. Note the interesting comparison of tobacco's "deadly" contents with common foods!

      http://crobm.iadrjournals.org/cgi/reprint/15/5/252.pdf
      holy crap...Trop Bob, did you happen to see the data on Red Seal! That stuff is straight up poisonous!

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      • TropicalBob
        Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 316

        #18
        Sure did. Looks like it'd be a great insecticide.

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        • DraculaViktor
          Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 66

          #19
          There was a correction on the Red Seal numbers on some other form I read once that showed an updated TSNA level for Red Seal which dramatically dropped it from the 1400+ range. But the updated level was still insanely high. I guess it's much much cheaper to produce a crappy product than to nourish something with quality and cleanliness such as Swedish snus. I am one of those super pro-American people, but it disgusts me to see that we cannot attain the levels of purity and quality (in regards to tobacco) in our tobacco products as the Swedes do. Good for them though. At least someone got it right, and improving.

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          • STORM6490MT
            Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 138

            #20
            Originally posted by DraculaViktor
            There was a correction on the Red Seal numbers on some other form I read once that showed an updated TSNA level for Red Seal which dramatically dropped it from the 1400+ range. But the updated level was still insanely high. I guess it's much much cheaper to produce a crappy product than to nourish something with quality and cleanliness such as Swedish snus. I am one of those super pro-American people, but it disgusts me to see that we cannot attain the levels of purity and quality (in regards to tobacco) in our tobacco products as the Swedes do. Good for them though. At least someone got it right, and improving.
            Here's some info that will help you feel more patriotic! America produces the high quality tobacco that goes into most all of the swedish brand snus. We could produce the same quality snus but would probably be bought out by big tobacco. From there they would cut corners and use cheaper waste tobacco like they do in their chew.

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            • DraculaViktor
              Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 66

              #21
              It would be nice if we here in U.S. could one day be freed from the clutches of Big Tobacco and be allowed to have companies that produce Swedish style snus here. We could make a change in so many smokers' lives.

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