Carrying an e-cigarette is forbidden at UCSF

[Ansel]

:-/

http://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot....bidden-at.html

The University of California, San Francisco—the home of anti-smoking über-zealot Stanton Glantz—has banned students from using and carrying e-cigarettes across campus, inside and out.

To provide a smoke-free environment for its faculty, staff, students, patients, and visitors, UCSF shall be a smoke-free campus.


The policy, which has been flagged up by Glantz on his blog, applies to all "University-owned or leased property, buildings, space, and University-owned passenger vehicles and moving equipment" and includes all "smoking tobacco products".

To the scientifically illiterate goons at UCSF, "smoking tobacco products" includes products which are not smoked and do not contain tobacco.

Smoking tobacco products means inhaling, exhaling, burning or carrying any lighted or heated cigar, pipe or cigarette (traditional or e-cigarette).


Just unbelievable.

[lxskllr]

You're just jealous of our freedom. Keep it up with the posts like that, and we'll free your ass too. Just like Iraq.

[Ansel]

Hey, America sneezes and we catch a cold. We'll have all this isht soon.

[heders]

Ridiculous. They're not making it easy for people to quit cigarettes, huh.

[shikitohno]

Ridiculous. They're not making it easy for people to quit cigarettes, huh.

They ever wanted to?

[GoVegan]

I wonder if UCSF refuses to except any funds that originated from tobacco tax.

[EricHill78]

A member on here is going to send me some ecig stuff to try I can't wait. The lower nic doesnt bother me cause I'll pop in a prilla right after, just like when I use snuff. I just miss smoking and watchin mah stories or reading a magazine like the good old days.

About the op that is rediculous. I doubt my work will let me as well. I'll even have to explain to my wife how it will be safe for her and my son.

[snusjus]

So wait, students are allowed to possess lethal, traditional cigarettes, but they can't possess something that is far less harmful? This hypocrisy sickens me, not to mention that adults (18+) have the right to possess electronic cigarettes in the United States.

[GoVegan]

So wait, students are allowed to possess lethal, traditional cigarettes, but they can't possess something that is far less harmful? This hypocrisy sickens me, not to mention that adults (18+) have the right to possess electronic cigarettes in the United States.

No, they are banning everything to include cigarettes and e cigs. Around here the big thing is to ban smoking even in parking lots and at public parks.

[snusjus]

No, they are banning everything to include cigarettes and e cigs. Around here the big thing is to ban smoking even in parking lots and at public parks.

Absolute madness. I can't see how a college could prevent adults from possessing a legal product.

[BlueSaint]

Stupid law, I remember about 2 months ago when my friend bought one and brought it to school, and we sat there vaping in the classroom with our teacher.

[DanielO]

Our local university doesn't prohibit possession of smoking-related products (e- or otherwise), but does not allow smoking (e- or otherwise) anywhere on campus. Indoors, outdoors, parking lots, anywhere. The official reason for the ban when it was enacted was that smoking smells bad. This, at least, is an honest reason.

[Kaplan]

Wow, fascism at its finest. Even carrying an ecig is prohibited.

On the comments for that blog, someone posted this:

UCSF campus is like walking into a high security prison zone, in regards to smoking bans. They have plaques everywhere including huge metal disposal units ringing the campus approach zones with huge signage warning that smoking will not be tolerated. Armed guards sit in front of all campus buildings and frequently patrol out front, a puff of smoke or steam would not go unnoticed. The street separating the campus in two, Judah Street, runs right down the middle and is paid by taxpayer funds, being a city public street, but even there the signage is everywhere saying not to smoke on "UCSF's property". They have their own black and white police cars which go off campus into Irving Street commercial district heading below campus toward Golden Gate Park, another smoke banned outdoor place with $500 fines, and have been seen spinning around in the middle of busy intersections in order to rush off in whatever direction the UCSF armed police force feels the need to rush off too, without regard to safety of other vehicle drivers, passengers or pedestrians. They have also been seen miles and miless off-campus in Upper Market area running redlights with sirens flashing to pull over motorists they suspect of motoring violations, perceived or real, something outside their private jurisdiction that technically ends at the campus borders. I imagine soon they will have patrols looking for anyone creating puffs of steam from boiling soybean (vegetable glycerin) juice and water by use of a portable battery boiling device, which they apparently do not approve of, much as they approve of no smoking, outdoors included. Their influence, being largest employer and taxpayer in city of San Francisco, as well as bringing in large pharmaceutical companies to invest money and set up office and research labs there has what UCSF demands in regard to smoking bans be extended city wide, regional wide and even statewide, since Sacramento is not that far off and very close to lobby. What happens in San Franciso, experimentally, is what eventually they will plan to design for the rest of the state, country and other countries later on, once UCSF proves themselves "successful". "Successful" at what, I can't say, destroying science, destroying liberty, destroying economies and destroying peoples' lives is maybe it though UCSF would argue otherwise, being corrupted and prejudiced by big pharma interests.

If even some of that is true, that's fvcking scary.

[GoVegan]

Its just a trend. I went to an indoor Reggae concert a while ago and everyone around me was smoking pot. The whole building was filled with pot smoke. I was tempted to light up a cigarette during the concert but I had a feeling that would have been a huge no go.