Good Lord! WTA eJuice is astonishing!!!

[wa3zrm]

Just received my first Whole Tobacco Alkaloid (WTA) eJuce from http://www.aromaejuice.com/main.sc

THIS STUFF IS BEYOND BELIEF! I always thought it was some sort of BS marketing thing... it's not! Vaping this stuff is just like smoking a real cigarette! It's expensive... but like I've mentioned here before...you get what you pay for.

Has anyone else here used this stuff and what are your impressions?

[Faylool]

Ive been using it since Summer because if i vape regular e juice with nic only i get aggitated and wired, start chain vaping and stay up too late wee hours of the morning lurking and posting on ecf and snuson. Why i started snusing and snuffing. Its more natural and so is e juice with WTA. I still vape regular e juice because its DIY and dimes to the dollar in cost but i keep it low nic, like 18 mg. Or less. Jerry is adding new flavors soon. I got some to sample. I didnt like the two orange tangerine type flavors they were. Whaaaa but i dontlike orange in my vape so i wasnt lucky. I like his Pomegranite and buy it everytime. I usually add a few drops pomegranite flavoring for my own personal taste and a little malty and bavarian creme. If you like Menthol the P38 always gets reviews. Its a lightly menthol hint of tobacco. Im trying it this week. What flavor did you order?

[wa3zrm]

If you like Menthol the P38 always gets reviews. Its a lightly menthol hint of tobacco. Im trying it this week. What flavor did you order?

I ordered three... Beatle Juice, Dark Honey Tobacco and the P38. I was a Kool menthol smoker for over 30 years... eJuice didn't turn the trick for me, but snus did. This P38 is giving me that cigarette buzz... you know, like the first one you had in the morning with your coffee? Does the buzz keep going or do you get use to it? Is it like snus, you start off with regular portions then move on to the starks?

[Faylool]

I was Kool smoker for the most part of my 17 years of smoking too. I havent tried the P 38 but i hear its mild compared to something like Kool. Thats a good question. You will not notice a buzz so much after time because you do habituate to it. No, you wont need more and more but you might need to discover your personal level. I have friends who vape it and everyones use varies. For example one friend learned if he vaped it too much he was getting lethargic, lazy like so he cut back. If you stop using it awhile and then get some youll get a new more relaxed effect for awhile then you just get used to it. The good thing is you wont get all wired up what level nic did you choose. Are you still snussing. If you snus while vaping youll get more goods due to the stuff in snus that makes the goods more available

[wa3zrm]

I tried EVERYTHING... and I do mean everything to get off the smokes... the gum, the patch, the spray... I even tried American chew... nothing worked!

Snus got me off a 30 year habit in less than a week... and that was in 2008. I've been smoke free ever since. When I vape, I vape for flavor. Most of my vapes have zero nic or 6mg at the most. I do vape with snus; however, I use little or no nic in the vape. Interesting, I have not had a portion since I started the P38. The way it makes me feel scares me somewhat... it's TO MUCH like smoking analogs

I think the secret is to learn to pace yourself and find what works for you. I don't do starks much anymore... I get what I need from regular portions. Tomorrow is going to be an interesting day.... I'm going to rotate between General regular portions and the P38. Right now, I feel like I just had my first analog since 2008! What ever is in the WTA does the trick for me!

[Faylool]

I have the definition of WTA in my thread ( something about "does high nic mean high WTA?") Ignore the first half of the thread please. Finally somewhere down a ways is the truest definition of WTA and the minor alkaloids in it. The relationship of these minor alkaloids to nic is 95% nic to 5% WTAs this means those minor alkaloids pack a punch to calm the stimulating effects of nic solo. But they come with nic....in otherwords no nic, no minor alkaloids. Some of the things listed in that definition are found in other plants as well, same as nic. In the end the relationship is synergistic and i find nicotine alone to be a below average replacement for tobacco. No wonder you werent successful. I was. I chewed nicorette for 10 years. I chewed it day and in the middle of the night. The more i chewed the more i wanted more! Everyone calls it that " not satisfied" effect. Yeah so. Now you can spend too much money on vaping devices! Ha ha. Ill tell you a secret. Cheap. Its second best to rebuildable attomizer vaping for " getting the goods" i use a $15 non battery manual passthrough with a 2 amp charger plugged into the wall and 2.7- 3.00 ohm attomizer for dripping and drip the WTA e juice from Aroma Juice and it delivers more
. You get more for your money (. : A lot of "goods" get wasted with vape because of the low absorption of vape in the mouth and nose. Not much gets absorped in the lungs at all. So you could puff it like a cigar and do great. If your wealthy i ve got other ideas for all that but youre fine and good. Me, if i had to choose just one way to get my tobacco experience it would have to be SNUFF...still. My poor nose! So im really doing great with snus, snuff and vape. I always have somw WTA but i cant afford to vape exclusively. Its Top Shelf
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the low nic WTA is the way to go because both strengths choices have the same level of WTA. This means that yes, they add nic to the extraction. Thy dilute the extraction too. If you have high nic with the WTA juice it will negate the relaxation benefits of the minor alkaloinds. So i stick with 18 or 12 mg choices. Too much information? My daughter is always accusing me of that.

[wa3zrm]

Yea... I hear you.

I have some passthrough's plugged into my computer constantly. Some are over two years old!

For me, taste is everything. The nic in the eJuice does nothing for me. That's why I use zero or 6mg juices.

I dropped Jerry an e-mail and he mentioned that he knows you! I tried the ECF for awhile... that's where I learned about Boba's Bounty. I like 100% VG juices in glass containers... it's like drinking beer from a bottle or a can

I only order from three vendor's... http://www.avejuice.com/ http://www.thevaporroom.net/ and http://www.virginvapor.com/ I have favorites at each place. Now it looks like I'll be adding http://www.aromaejuice.com/main.sc

I know there is a snus section on the ECF; however, IMO they are not as "hardcore" as the folks here.

One thing's for sure, you can spend a ton of cash on eJuice because there are so many flavors... snus in much more limiting in that area.

[Kaplan]

So you can use this juice in any e-cig? I have a Janty that I never use, but I wouldn't mind trying this if it's that good.

[wa3zrm]

As long as you use a new tip and carto, it should work. I don't think you would want any cross contamination from other juices you used in it.

[Faylool]

Thanks for the e juice vendors list. I kinda gave up to make my own but sometimes i try some premade regular e juices still. Virgin Vapers supplies my favorite, creme caramel. Ive moved away from it but i will return. Im a 70/30 pg / vg girl. No sensitivities and i like throat hit.
Jerry is a great ethical guy and cares about his customers. Way back i made a couple suggestions because he was asking and he followed through too! Business seems to be doing great and life is good. Ill be watching your suggestions in the future. The snus section plays it cool due to the political nature of ecigs at the moment. Ecf supports snus and all that but its just such a scene sometimes. They try to be very goody goody to keep e cigs hot topic and free from any slander. Want to grow in a hostile environment. The antz people FDA etc...
im vaping the P38 finally. Its decent good! Glad i bought it....and i still have the cash but not for long. Thats cool im very well supplied and prepared for my new budget requirements. See you later

Yea... I hear you.

I have some passthrough's plugged into my computer constantly. Some are over two years old!

For me, taste is everything. The nic in the eJuice does nothing for me. That's why I use zero or 6mg juices.

I dropped Jerry an e-mail and he mentioned that he knows you! I tried the ECF for awhile... that's where I learned about Boba's Bounty. I like 100% VG juices in glass containers... it's like drinking beer from a bottle or a can

I only order from three vendor's... http://www.avejuice.com/ http://www.thevaporroom.net/ and http://www.virginvapor.com/ I have favorites at each place. Now it looks like I'll be adding http://www.aromaejuice.com/main.sc

I know there is a snus section on the ECF; however, IMO they are not as "hardcore" as the folks here.

One thing's for sure, you can spend a ton of cash on eJuice because there are so many flavors... snus in much more limiting in that area.

[wa3zrm]

Just had my morning coffee and some P38.

Never thought I'd ever experience that feeling of calm again! Damn, this WTA is the bomb!

[Ansel]

this sounds very interesting... i want to try vaping WTAs... i'm a bit worried that there are not really many studies into it i have seen. Does it matter if the tobacco extracted from is air-cured and/or pasteurised?

[Fazer]

this sounds very interesting... i want to try vaping WTAs... i'm a bit worried that there are not really many studies into it i have seen. Does it matter if the tobacco extracted from is air-cured and/or pasteurised?

I mix my own juice mate. It's 54mg/ml nicotine base liquid, made with UK pharmaceutical grade nicotine. I can make it as strong or weak as i like

http://www.postmodernsmoking.com/ind...-mixing-1.html

[Ansel]

I mix my own juice mate. It's 54mg/ml nicotine base liquid, made with UK pharmaceutical grade nicotine. I can make it as strong or weak as i like

http://www.postmodernsmoking.com/ind...-mixing-1.html

That's just nic though isn't it? not WTAs.

[truthwolf1]

anti ecig article- vaping still constricts breathing and causes inflammation

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8041WB20120105

pro ecig article- calls study BS.

http://blog.casaa.org/2012/01/greek-...d-amateur.html


I definately would of used a ecig to quit smoking but believe snus was a better divorce from the hand to mouth psychological action.