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  • Faylool
    Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 496

    Vaping is in its infancy. It's here to stay

    Thought this rant was worth sharing with you all.

    A Nurses response to the bogus articles against E-cigs

    I was reading an article about the harm to lungs with e-cigs and saw this nurses response. I LOVE IT! Feel free to copy and paste it everywhere you see negative articles on E-cigs

    "This article upsets me to NO end! I am a Respiratory Registered Nurse. I work for an oxygen company. In just 9 months I have seen patients get off of oxygen AND their lung function IMPROVE from YES, E-cigs. You can't fool me that E-cigs are "harming" the lungs. If they are, where is the comparison to that of cigarettes??? I have seen E-cigs help control the progression of chronic obstructive pulmonary diseased patient's when pure oxygen and other FDA approved medications DIDN'T. Why not mention this? Let me let you in on a little secret. Big pharmaceutical companies pay MILLIONS to get ads out there to get people off of E-cigs. WHY? Their patches, gum, inhalers, etc are losing millions if not billions from the best invention to date...E-Cigs. Are they perfect? No. Would I rather be around someone smoking an E-cig than someone wearing perfume? Yes. The risk of lung irritation is much less. Some people go into full blown asthma attacks just from people wearing perfume. Have you ever witnessed this from an E-cig? I doubt it! Did you know that working at the post office may be more hazardous to your health from all of the paper dust then an E-cig. The air pollution may be more dangerous to your health than an E-cig. Am I saying one should constantly puff on an E-cig? Absolutely not, but the patient's I know who have used it in REPLACE Of their cigarettes have been praised by their doctors for their "LUNG IMPROVEMENT!" The people who wrote this article must not have a conscience!!! How can you sleep at night knowing that millions die per year from cigarettes. These poor people need your help and support! I don't smoke, never have. As a nurse for over 15 years, I have seen tobacco cigarettes take lives over and over again. Since my patients have been on E-cigs I have only seen lung improvement. You should be ashamed of yourself...motivated by greed makes me sick!!!"




  • whalen
    Member
    • May 2009
    • 6593

    #2
    Well, I am still staying away from the Kool Aid, I don't care how good they say it is.

    The rant sounds a little too good to me, There is like a billion dollars of potential business to be had in this segment by Big Tobacco et all. Every one is positioning themselves to sweep the market. I believe the new EU stance will be the norm here once the powers that be get it together. I do not hate Vaping, I just do not need to mimic smoking, and my snus experience has been positive. Those of you who want to enjoy it have fun, but my lungs are off limits to anything like smoking. It took me a long time to get that smoking craving out of my system, and I can see that those who struggle with that can benefit from an interim harm reduction system. I have no doubt that Vaping is less harmless than smoking. But exactly what is in all that "juice", and what are the risks? Who the hell knows, and with all that money at stake, who can you trust?
    wiki "Popcorn Sutton" a true COOT!

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    • lxskllr
      Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 13435

      #3
      Originally posted by whalen
      Well, I am still staying away from the Kool Aid, I don't care how good they say it is.

      The rant sounds a little too good to me, There is like a billion dollars of potential business to be had in this segment by Big Tobacco et all. Every one is positioning themselves to sweep the market. I believe the new EU stance will be the norm here once the powers that be get it together. I do not hate Vaping, I just do not need to mimic smoking, and my snus experience has been positive. Those of you who want to enjoy it have fun, but my lungs are off limits to anything like smoking. It took me a long time to get that smoking craving out of my system, and I can see that those who struggle with that can benefit from an interim harm reduction system. I have no doubt that Vaping is less harmless than smoking. But exactly what is in all that "juice", and what are the risks? Who the hell knows, and with all that money at stake, who can you trust?
      I thought it sounded a bit like astroturfing too, with the famous appeal to authority rhetoric style. Regardless of that particular post or article though, "health" is a red herring. It isn't the government's business to restrict what adults do, regardless of health implications. As long as the companies aren't making fraudulent claims, the government has no horse in the race.

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      • Darwin
        Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 1372

        #4
        If you stay away from Chinese juices or crappy cigalike scam products and juice you'll be fine from a health standpoint. U.S. mixed juices are of generally very high quality and contain little or nothing that is known to be harmful. Or you can mix it yourself from readily available high quality ingredients. There is a lot of self-policing going on as well. The relevant forums are chockablock with people primed and ready to call BS on vendors who try to sell questionable products.

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        • wa3zrm
          Member
          • May 2009
          • 4436

          #5
          Originally posted by Darwin
          ...stay away from Chinese juices...
          Did you read that PP???? What have I been telling you?
          If you have any problems with my posts or signature


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          • Premium Parrots
            Super Moderators
            • Feb 2008
            • 9758

            #6
            Originally posted by wa3zrm
            Did you read that PP???? What have I been telling you?

            I know I know. Never again.
            Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......





            I've been wrong lots of times.  Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.


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            • Darwin
              Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 1372

              #7
              The Chinese juices I've tried are just plain lousy so whether or not they are less "healthy" than others is essentially irrelevant since I won't be trying very many in future. Heck they aren't even any cheaper than many U.S. brands such as Mount Baker Vapor. Juices sold in many tobacco shops (not vaping B&Ms) are frequently absurdly expensive even though they are right off the boat from China. One outfit here is charging 12 bucks for 10ml which is Aroma level pricing and constitutes outright predation on unknowledgeable buyers.

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              • wa3zrm
                Member
                • May 2009
                • 4436

                #8
                Originally posted by Darwin
                The Chinese juices I've tried are just plain lousy...
                Lousy hell... they send us dog food that kills our pets and have no concept of quality control.
                If you have any problems with my posts or signature


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                • Darwin
                  Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 1372

                  #9
                  Very true waz but what is odd to me is that the vaping hardware they ship over here is of reasonable quality at rock bottom prices but the juices they send over are poor quality and high priced. Go figure.

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                  • Darwin
                    Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 1372

                    #10
                    It just struck me that regarding vaping the Chinese may be using the copier/toner model as their strategy. Sell the hardware cheaply and the consumables dearly.

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                    • Faylool
                      Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 496

                      #11
                      Wait a second. Posting another link

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                      • Faylool
                        Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 496

                        #12
                        http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/e-c.../#.UeQhGfF5mSM

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                        • Faylool
                          Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 496

                          #13
                          The ? Mark? Why? I tried to put the chart directly for PP but didn't work....thus a link

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                          • Darwin
                            Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 1372

                            #14
                            Fay I'm not sure why there was a problem. Explain a bit further if you please.

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                            • Premium Parrots
                              Super Moderators
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 9758

                              #15
                              the link is working now

                              thanks for posting that FayDoll.
                              Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......





                              I've been wrong lots of times.  Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.


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