The Assault On E-Cigs Accelerates

[SnusoMatic]

i doubt a quality ecig is real harmful.

i don't use an ecig because i've quit regular cigs and figure it's just a hop and skip from ecig back to regular for me. i don't want to take that chance.

if i did use ecig i would want it regulated in much everything else is for say food. i mean to make sure the stuff is pure. there is always someone who would rather mix rat poison in the stuff to save money. don't think i am saying the stuff has rat poison in it. just need some sort of oversight of some sort.

also, i think if one has to be grown to buy cigs they should be to buy ecigs. around here if a kid wants either they can get them anyway. i personally know stores i could send any 15-16 year old to buy cigs and beer. my thinking is they should enforce the laws they already have before they make new ones.

i am not saying tax it either. i am not for taxes on much of anything.

in reality anyone who has kept up with tobacco for the last ten years knows how it will turn out for ecigs. no one has to tell you. but since that is what i am doing haha.... soon the gov will slap a mega tax on ecig liquid. i am not sure how that stuff is measured. i assume by ML. So there will be N $ per ML tax. They will make it illegal to send through the mail. Certain states will slap on another n $ per ML. It will end up costing as much if not more than regular cigs. Of course anything containing nic will be illegal to own unless you pay the tax or you are in medical. my guess it will all be finished within five years. Most of the fed part will be within two years.

i wonder what the shelf life on ecig liquid is?

[trebli]

County Supervisors Vote To Ban E-Cigarettes Where Tobacco Smoking Is Banned

"The San Diego County Board of Supervisors voted Tuesday to tentatively approve an amendment to the county code to prohibit the use of electronic cigarettes in places where tobacco smoking is banned."

"The public is lacking information about the risk of the exposure to these devices, and I believe that the county, as stewards of public health, we have to limit the public's exposure to potentially harmful vapors," Supervisor Dave Roberts said. "

read more: http://www.sandiego6.com/news/local/...258200571.html

[trebli]

Future Hazy For E-Cigarettes



"Things are heating up in Minnesota over e-cigarettes.

Recent proposals at the state Legislature have proposed lump them together with tobacco in the eyes of the Clean Indoor Air Act, meaning users couldn't smoke in public indoor spaces. Other proposals would restrict them from state-owned buildings and schools."

http://www.winonadailynews.com/news/...fdf927831.html

[trebli]

E-Cigarettes Face Dizzying Number Of State, Local Fights



"Electronic cigarettes were officially added to municipal smoking bans in Chicago and New York City Tuesday, five days after the Food and Drug Administration unveiled its first proposed regulations for the increasingly popular devices. But regulatory fights across the country are far from over.

A relatively low-profile struggle is well underway as state and local officials seek taxes, bans and restrictions on the multibillion-dollar industry. "

"In most clashes the arguments are the same. Supporters of stiff regulations say e-cigarette liquid contains addictive nicotine, may appeal to children and may be dangerous. E-cigarette users stress the devices are likely a healthier alternative to combustible cigarettes, cite preliminary studies backing their case and dispute the veracity of age-appeal claims."

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...e-local-fights

[trebli]

Ken Braun: Taxing E-Cigarettes Like Tobacco Would Result In More Cancer

Now for something that is altogether too rare - a pro e-cig editorial!



"It’s rarely so easy to draw a straight line between death and taxes. Taxing e-cigarettes like real cigarettes will inflict more hideous cancers on more people than would otherwise occur if they switched to vaping, and many of those people will die as a result. Conversely, failure to apply tobacco taxes to e-cigarettes will mean much less revenue for state government.

In the era of e-cigarettes, choosing the money means government is choosing to kill. "

http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/in...igarettes.html

[trebli]

E-Cigarette Tax Stirs Interest



"Taxing the sale of electronic cigarettes is stirring interest among lawmakers as a potential new revenue source to shore up the cash-strapped state budget.

No specific proposals have emerged yet, but the idea is getting consideration as the various legislative caucuses study a wide range of revenue options to deal with a $500 million shortfall in the fiscal 2013-14 budget and likely shortfall of a similar amount in the fiscal 2014-15 budget."

"We must fill a budget gap of more than a billion dollars,” said Erik Arneson, spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Dominic Pileggi, R-9, Chester."

http://thetimes-tribune.com/news/e-c...rest-1.1691314

[lxskllr]

"We must fill a budget gap of more than a billion dollars,” said Erik Arneson, spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Dominic Pileggi, R-9, Chester."

Why does the budget gap always have to be /filled/? When you spend too much money, do you change your lifestyle, do you start rolling old ladies for their bingo money to make up the difference? Maybe instead of filling the gap, they should just get a smaller glass...

[Burnsey]

Why does the budget gap always have to be /filled/? When you spend too much money, do you change your lifestyle, do you start rolling old ladies for their bingo money to make up the difference? Maybe instead of filling the gap, they should just get a smaller glass...

Yep, and why do we have to support the full time spenders....

[Andy105]

Yep, and why do we have to support the full time spenders....

So that they can give $20 million to Spotted Tree Frog Masturbation Research, and then act like they are our saviors.
We desperately need term limits, or voter education requirements

[Burnsey]

So that they can give $20 million to Spotted Tree Frog Masturbation Research, and then act like they are our saviors.
We desperately need term limits, or voter education requirements

Oh yes.......

[spinyeel]

Governments thrive on taxing anything that becomes too popular.
If we all stopped smoking,drinking and driving cars,they would all go broke in a week.
Parasites!

[trebli]

Top Secret Document Shows WHO



Top Secret Document Shows Who Plans To Classify E-Cigarettes The Same As Regular Cigarettes

"LONDON: A leaked confidential document has confirmed that the World Health Organization is planning to classify e-cigarettes the same as regular cigarettes."

"The document confirms that WHO considers e-cigarettes a "threat" to public health and intends to sideline their use as an accessible alternative to regular tobacco and cigarettes. "

But scientists from 15 countries have said "If the WHO gets its way and extinguishes e-cigarettes, it will not only have passed up what is clearly one of the biggest public health innovations of the last three decades that could potentially save millions of lives, but it will have abrogated its own responsibility under its own charter to empower consumers to take control of their own health, something which they are already doing themselves in the millions.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/h....cms?prtpage=1

[alopezg1]

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Good news and bad news I suppose. The fact that scientists from 15 different countries are standing up and giving e-cigs backing is a huge step I think
the fact that a an institution like the WHO doesn't know it's tit from its elbow is, unfortunately, no news at all

Top Secret Document Shows Who Plans To Classify E-Cigarettes The Same As Regular Cigarettes

"LONDON: A leaked confidential document has confirmed that the World Health Organization is planning to classify e-cigarettes the same as regular cigarettes."

"The document confirms that WHO considers e-cigarettes a "threat" to public health and intends to sideline their use as an accessible alternative to regular tobacco and cigarettes. "

But scientists from 15 countries have said "If the WHO gets its way and extinguishes e-cigarettes, it will not only have passed up what is clearly one of the biggest public health innovations of the last three decades that could potentially save millions of lives, but it will have abrogated its own responsibility under its own charter to empower consumers to take control of their own health, something which they are already doing themselves in the millions.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/h....cms?prtpage=1[/QUOTE]

[alopezg1]

that post went spectacularly wrong

[trebli]

World Health Organization's War on e-Cigarettes



World Health Organization's War on e-Cigarettes May Lead to Fewer Smokers Quitting

"The reasons for the WHO’s insistence are opaque. Many anti-smokers are against the “renormalisation” of the sight of smoking. Some cynics point to the hands of the pharmaceutical industry, referred to disparagingly as “Big Pharma."

"Dr. Michael Siegel, Professor of Community Health, pointed out eighteen months ago that “Anti-Smoking groups that oppose electronic cigarettes received an additional $1.4 Million from Big Pharma, beyond the $2.8 Million revealed earlier; groups repeatedly failed to disclose this Conflict of Interest.”

If the WHO does not yield, it will only mean fewer smokers quitting tobacco – the complete opposite of what they are trying to achieve."

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-L...s-aim-at-ecigs