E-Cigs to Quit Snus????

[Grim]

Just wanted some thoughts. I've been diagnosed with hypertension, bp was 150/100, and have decided to step away from tobacco.

I figured vaping a very low dose e liquid then moving to nicotine free liquid may help the best.

I purchased a nice ecig, Halo Triton, and a couple bottles of 6% nic e-juice. Lowest they had.

What do y'all think?

[dupee419]

I just started using an e-cig myself a few weeks ago. I find the problem with the e-cigs is that the damned thing doesn't stop you from vaping 3-4 cigs worth of liquid in one sitting, so I'm plowing through the 35mg/ml stuff without even realizing it until I get a wicked case of the spins and my heart starts pounding.

Your plan of eventually switching to nic-free liquid may work for getting rid of nicotine dependency though.

You could always try hitting the mini portions too, if I remember properly most have about half as much nicotine than the regular size.

here's an article pertaining to a study: http://www.theaggie.org/2013/10/24/s...an-cigarettes/

[Premium Parrots]

The Halo kit you bought is almost exactly like this kit
http://www.ecigarettechina.com/bests...b-charger.html
wow this outfit is offering free shipping now. I guess they were losing too much of their business to Fastech. lol

I like this cheap kit because the battery is variable voltage and quite shorter than all the "twist" variable voltage batteries. The clearomizers are cheap but once you get started and learn more you may eventually end up with one of the brands of protanks, which are glass and preform much better than the clearomizers. Most everybody starts out with clearomizers. Whether you end up using the clearomizers or the protanks you will need several around for different juices. I usually keep about 10 different flavors in 10 different rebuildable protanks. The clearomizers seem to burn out quicker so they don't last too long. If you need more clearomizers let me know, I over bought when I started and have quite a few of the Iclear 16's THAT ARE BRAND NEW which are dual coil and rebuildable. I switched over to protanks and don't need the Iclears anymore. It was a big investment for the protanks. ;(

I try to buy 0 nicotine juice but my favorite juices are from Alien Visions and the lowest nic they offer is 6 mg. I never feel the nic. I mostly vape in the evening and mostly for the taste and for something to do.

Check out the trading thread in the vape forum. I'm pricing my xtra stuff at a loss even tho its new. I overbought when I first started vaping. ;(
http://www.snuson.com/showthread.php...Trading-Thread

Good luck

[Ansel]

you could take meds for hypertension on top of a regular dose of nic... just a thought but yes of course stepping away from tobacco completely is the best option. best of luck.

[Frankie Reloaded]

There is also nicotine-free snus. That might help better than e-cigs, when you are quitting snus habit.

[dupee419]

it also just occurred to me that 6% solution is roughly 60mg/ml. my 35mg/ml is sold as 3.5% solution.

check this site out if you're really interested in e-cigs: http://www.vtvapor.com
they make solutions in 0%, 1%, 2% and 3.5% and the stuff is tasty.

[heders]

you could take meds for hypertension on top of a regular dose of nic... just a thought but yes of course stepping away from tobacco completely is the best option. best of luck.

I'm sorry, but that is pretty crazy. It's the same behavior as driving with one foot on the gas and the other on the break pedal. Nicotine correlates directly with blood pressure, and for the OP, the goal is to lower the nicotine dosage to minimize the effect, and eventually, probably quit. E-cigs is a great way to go.

Get yourself some 24 or 16/18 mg to start with, and work your way down. 6 mg is quite low, but could work, if you have some will power. I'm sorry to hear about your health problems.


I could probably quit snus with vaping, since I like it so much. But 6 mg's is extremely low - I would vape my ass off with that, and if I was trying to quit tobacco, I would go high and then lower the dosage gradually.

[Ansel]

I'm sorry, but that is pretty crazy. It's the same behavior as driving with one foot on the gas and the other on the break pedal. Nicotine correlates directly with blood pressure, and for the OP, the goal is to lower the nicotine dosage to minimize the effect, and eventually, probably quit. E-cigs is a great way to go.

I know Heders but what if he can't quit and what if he does but develops depression or another debilitating condition as bad or worse than hypertension... i don't think it's that crazy. For example i know people who became schizophrenic through taking drugs then they get put on medication and in time get back on the drugs on top of their medication.

[Premium Parrots]

if you are already on meds for BP then keep using 8 mg or less snus and adjust your meds until it gets to where your doctor wants the BP. The meds to control your blood pressure are extremely safe...and cheap. So you need a tad higher dose. That's fine. Remember that snus also has a relaxing effect but the nic raises your BP. Strike the happy medium by adjusting you meds a bit. Worked for me.


or just quit tobacco altogether and go nucking futs.

[Burnsey]

It seems to me that most any other N delivery would be better than inhaling N laden smoke or vapor as the quick delivery would raise BP considerably faster than the slower nic release from snus.... we've seen the graphs here..........

[GoVegan]

I am just waiting to see some ask about using cigarettes to get off the nicotine patch.

[piks101]

I would look more to your diet first. I have attached a good link below. As for e-cigs, I get more racey and spacey with e-cigs than I ever do with snus. I don't think e-cigs are a better alternative to snus to lower hypertension. Again, I would look at your diet first. Snus is likely not the main issue and doesn't necessarily have to be stopped. I would never take any pharma drugs to reduce BP unless the only option as any BP meds can literally be a prescription for more issues and more meds to counteract the other drugs leading to worse health imo.

http://chriskresser.com/6-ways-to-lo...ging-your-diet

[Premium Parrots]

I would look more to your diet first. I have attached a good link below. As for e-cigs, I get more racey and spacey with e-cigs than I ever do with snus. I don't think e-cigs are a better alternative to snus to lower hypertension. Again, I would look at your diet first. Snus is likely not the main issue and doesn't necessarily have to be stopped. I would never take any pharma drugs to reduce BP unless the only option as any BP meds can literally be a prescription for more issues and more meds to counteract the other drugs leading to worse health imo.

http://chriskresser.com/6-ways-to-lo...ging-your-diet

In bold I totally agree with. That's why I use either 0mg or 6 mg juice. As far as the BP meds go....I did say if you are already taking BP meds a bit of tweeking the dosage will fix that. BP meds very very rarely counter act with other meds and won't addict you to them and are not the kind of meds to hurt you. Take em if you need em without any worries.

I've been all over this issue with my doctor.

Of course quitting every tobacco product would be best.

[piks101]

In bold I totally agree with. That's why I use either 0mg or 6 mg juice. As far as the BP meds go....I did say if you are already taking BP meds a bit of tweeking the dosage will fix that. BP meds very very rarely counter act with other meds and won't addict you to them and are not the kind of meds to hurt you. Take em if you need em without any worries.

I've been all over this issue with my doctor.

Of course quitting every tobacco product would be best.

I hear you on the meds you are taking for BP at least you are not going in blind and have researched/considered. As for docs, they are all over the place on quality of care and knowledge and typically are ignorant on diet as a medicine/treatment. Often meds can lower the symptoms but the underlying problem was never really addressed, kinda like cutting weeds at the top rather than the roots.

[Premium Parrots]

Your diet is the single most important thing to be aware of that can affect your health. For BP and hypertension #1 being to lower you sodium intake as much as possible.