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  • snusjus
    Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 2674

    #1

    "E-cigs don't deliver the nicotine they promise"

    VCU researcher says electronic cigarettes don’t deliver the nicotine they promise

    "One of the hottest new alternatives to smoking -- electronic cigarettes -- may deliver little of the nicotine they promise, a study at Virginia Commonwealth University is finding.

    And because they lack the jolt of tobacco cigarettes, users may be modifying the electronic devices to deliver more toxic nicotine, VCU researcher Thomas Eissenberg said yesterday.

    The study, to be presented this month at an academic conference, also suggests that e-cigarettes, when used according to directions, don't suppress the craving to smoke very much, Eissenberg said.

    "These data scream out for the need for regulation of these devices," said Eissenberg, who is director of VCU's Clinical Behavioral Pharmacology Laboratory.

    "They say they are giving people nicotine, but based on our study, with the two brands we looked at and tested the way we did, that's not clear."

    Nicotine is the addictive compound that hooks tobacco users.

    E-cigarettes use small heaters to vaporize a mix of nicotine and alcohol, usually propylene glycol, a common ingredient in antifreeze, for a smoker to inhale. Because e-cigarettes do not burn tobacco leaf, users believe they avoid the toxins and cancer-causing compounds in cigarette smoke.

    "There's millions of people who use e-cigarettes, and he's studied 16," said Amy A. Linert, a spokeswoman for the Electronic Cigarette Association.

    Eissenberg tested nicotine in the smokers' blood streams after they used two different kinds of e-cigarettes, as well as after smoking.

    He said the results from the first 16 were so surprising that he fired off a letter to the journal Tobacco Control with his preliminary findings. The letter is being published in this month's edition of the journal. He'll present the full results to the Society for Research in Nicotine and Tobacco this month.
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    His blood tests found smokers averaged 16.8 nanograms of nicotine per milliliter of blood plasma five minutes after smoking conventional cigarettes, but only 2.5 nanograms or 3.4 nanograms with the e-cigarette devices.</u>

    While nicotine affects heartbeat, he noticed an increase only after his subjects smoked tobacco but not after using the e-cigarettes.

    The only significant reduction in craving for a cigarette came, briefly, after his subjects tried one variety of e-cigarette within an hour of their first attempt.

    "We have hundreds of thousands of customers, and their collective experience and purchasing decisions strongly indicate that our products meet the needs of people interested in an alternative to combustible, smoke-producing cigarettes," said Jack Leadbeater, chief executive officer of NJOY, the company that made one of the two devices Eissenberg tested.

    Leadbeater said half his company's sales are to repeat customers, and that 94 percent of customers say they continued using the product after their first trial.

    Eissenberg said he's concerned about how people are using the devices.

    "If people are reporting what they are reporting about cravings, the data suggest it's not because of the drugs in the device," he said.

    But Eissenberg said he's concerned about comments he has seen on blogs that some e-cigarette users are "dripping," or letting liquid from the devices' cartridges fall directly onto the heating element.

    That means they may be getting relatively large doses of nicotine, which can be toxic in amounts of about 50 milligrams, Eissenberg said.

    While the cartridges contain 16 milligrams, they can be refilled from bottles labeled as containing 500 milligrams, or 10 times the toxic dose, he said.

    The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has seized imports of e-cigarettes, saying they are unapproved drug-delivery devices. NJOY and another firm are challenging those seizures in federal court."


    http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/bu...215209/323735/


    This article doesn't come to any surprise for me. I purchased an electronic cigarette and never got any kind of nicotine kick; even when I smoked one heavily, my nicotine cravings were never satisfied. I find snus to be far superior in nicotine delivery.
  • sheilalynn
    Member
    • May 2009
    • 1103

    #2
    Never felt much nicotine from them myself, but they still got me off of regular cigs the first day I used one. So placebo effect? Probably! But still, they were invaluable to me at the time for the whole hand-to-mouth part of smoking. Just imitating the act of smoking was what I obviously needed to quit since patches/gum/lozenges never did a thing for me. And it was from the e-cig forum that I discovered snus, which I'm enjoying alot more than the e-cig now.

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    • sagedil
      Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 7077

      #3
      Thank you for posting the above.

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      • lxskllr
        Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 13435

        #4
        Re: &quot;E-cigs don't deliver the nicotine they promise&quo

        Originally posted by snusjus
        And because they lack the jolt of tobacco cigarettes, users may be modifying the electronic devices to deliver more toxic nicotine, VCU researcher Thomas Eissenberg said yesterday.


        E-cigarettes use small heaters to vaporize a mix of nicotine and alcohol, usuallypropylene glycol, a common ingredient in antifreeze, for a smoker to inhale. Because e-cigarettes do not burn tobacco leaf, users believe they avoid the toxins and cancer-causing compounds in cigarette smoke.
        It's no secret here that I'm no fan of Ecigs, but whoever wrote that has an axe to grind. Toxic nicotine? many things are toxic, including essential vitamins and minerals. Propylene glycol isn't as common in antifreeze as it is in food. Antifreeze is typically ethylene glycol, with propylene glycol being used in the "pet friendly" blends, typically sold at a premium :^S

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        • Mordred
          Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 342

          #5
          Yeah, toxic nicotine. Looking up words before you use them seems to have become unpopular these days.

          Antifreeze. It always comes back and it's always bullshit. Water's an ingredient in anti-freeze too.

          When an article contains this kind of crap, why even bother reading the rest of it? Better off buying a parrot, those actually have SOME intelligence.

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          • rdunnion
            New Member
            • May 2010
            • 11

            #6
            First of all propylene glycol is not an alcohol. It is commonly used in asthma inhalers. I used e-cigs to get off smoking. I started with thye higher dosage liquids and found them to be too strong for me, as in too much nicotine. From the day I picked up e-cigs I did not have a need to go back to smoking. Since then I have found nasal snuff and snus and only occasionally use my e-cig. It was difficult to find a juice flavor that I liked for e-cigs. Most tasted artificial. Snuff and snus have tons of wonderful flavors and have a more well rounded nicotine feeling than the pharecutical nicotine found in e-cigs. Tobacco products are superior in flavor and feeling, but the e-cig is most likely the healthiest way.

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            • xpinchx
              New Member
              • May 2010
              • 13

              #7
              Originally posted by rdunnion View Post
              First of all propylene glycol is not an alcohol. It is commonly used in asthma inhalers. I used e-cigs to get off smoking. I started with thye higher dosage liquids and found them to be too strong for me, as in too much nicotine. From the day I picked up e-cigs I did not have a need to go back to smoking. Since then I have found nasal snuff and snus and only occasionally use my e-cig. It was difficult to find a juice flavor that I liked for e-cigs. Most tasted artificial. Snuff and snus have tons of wonderful flavors and have a more well rounded nicotine feeling than the pharecutical nicotine found in e-cigs. Tobacco products are superior in flavor and feeling, but the e-cig is most likely the healthiest way.
              Actually propylene glycol is an alcohol, more specifically a diol (two alcohol groups on a hydrocarbon)

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              • rdunnion
                New Member
                • May 2010
                • 11

                #8
                Touche xpinchx.

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                • GoVegan
                  Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 5603

                  #9
                  awaiting our resident chemist, Justin, input on this one.

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                  • lxskllr
                    Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 13435

                    #10
                    Originally posted by xpinchx View Post
                    Actually propylene glycol is an alcohol, more specifically a diol (two alcohol groups on a hydrocarbon)
                    I may be wrong, I've never taken chemistry, but I always assume any *ol is a form of alcohol. Menthol, sorbitol, glycol...

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                    • rdunnion
                      New Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 11

                      #11
                      Technically it is an alcohol but not in the sense that it was used in the original article. It is more like glycerine than alcohol. It is viscous, odorless, and somewhat sweet. Unlike alcohol which tastes and smells like ... well ... alcohol.

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                      • xpinchx
                        New Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 13

                        #12
                        There are sometimes grey areas with IUPAC naming. Its IUPAC name would be 1,2-propane diol (i think, it's been a few years since organic chemistry), but when dealing with diols you can just name it after the alkene it's based off (propene -> propylene glycol). Despite not having alcohol in its name, it still behaves chemically as an alcohol (which is what all that matters, anyway.) An alcohol doesn't necessarily have to smell or taste like an "alcohol", or even be flammable for that matter.

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                        • rdunnion
                          New Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 11

                          #13
                          Oh wow! So you're saying that two substances with completely different properties can act the same way in a chemical reaction? I never took chemistry in school, but it is very interesting.

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                          • Experimental Monkey
                            Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 795

                            #14
                            All I can say is I feel the head rush of nicotine off of my e-cig, personally. Note that results may vary based on the equipment and more importantly the JUICE used in said experiment. TBH I find myself craving the e-cig over an actual cigarette. But to each his own.

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                            • xpinchx
                              New Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 13

                              #15
                              Originally posted by rdunnion View Post
                              Oh wow! So you're saying that two substances with completely different properties can act the same way in a chemical reaction? I never took chemistry in school, but it is very interesting.
                              In general, yeah most compounds with a same functional group attached undergo many of the same reactions even if their structure is vastly different. There are a lot of variables that come into play, and there are exceptions, but generally speaking most alcohol groups (-OH) can be halogenated, dehydrated, oxidized, reduced, tosylated, etc. regardless of the compound they're on. Most of organic chemistry revolves around modifying various functional groups to what you want in order to synthesize whatever your desired compound is. It's all very fascinating and I could tell you more but I'd probably bore everyone here to death.

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