Ecigs better than Swedish snus?

[EricHill78]

The ecigs somewhat interested me before snus. The part though about being able to use it anywhere is a joke to me though. Has anywhere here ever trying using them in public? At a store, dining establishment? I can imagine people stopping you thinking it's a regular cig. Just the hassle of explaining to every person it's water vapor would be a major pain.

[Simplysnus]

Glad to see you posting here TV, I read you, tropical bob, and some others regularly. I looked at both products, and tbh probably found snus on that e cig forum. For me the whole thing seemed overly complicated on doinking with vapes, so I tried snus first and it worked for me as of 4 months. Anyways, my experience was that e cigs for now are a pain to come up to speed on, so I think that's also important to consider when comparing quit smoking methods. I always wonder how many people read the same stuff I did and just walked away.

[TWISTED VICTOR]

Yup, this is a good forum and I have little to contribute so I just enjoy the reading, but over there I'm needed...whether they know it or not .

[Joe234]

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Oregon Pulls the Plug on Electronic Cigarette Maker
http://www.fairwarning.org/2010/08/o...garette-maker/

State-by-State E-Cigarette Bans?
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[Bigblue1]

Yup, this is a good forum and I have little to contribute so I just enjoy the reading, but over there I'm needed...whether they know it or not .

You are a wise man, because this place is the shit.

[justintempler]

Things that kept me from using e-cigs:

1. My perception that e-cigs don't deliver enough nicotine. I've read many comments from people trying to quit smoking saying that e-cigs don't deliver enough nicotine. When I switched from cigarettes to snus I had a couple of episodes where I got naseous and had to lie down from too much nicotine. How many E-cig users can say that?

2. Reliability. Rechargable batteries that need regular replacement and atomizers that burn out. And because those things DO happen you need to have spares at all times when using a product that involves an addiction.

3. Stealth. I can use snus anywhere without detection. I don't need anyone's permission. I can hide my snus use which is virtually impossible with an e-cig.

[Mr. Snuffleupagus]

I quit smoking with e-cigs, then relapsed, and then found snus. The biggest problem I had e-cigs was I couldn't find the right dose. Even with super high strength juice and a powerful e-cig, It just never really did it for me and I would suffer constant withdrawal. Also my shoulders were constantly sore when I used e-cigs. In my case snus beat e-cigs hands down as far as effectiveness in allowing me to not smoke cigs. As for safety, I was very afraid of the actual ingredients in the e-cig juice. When I was using e-cigs (2 years ago) all the liquids were manufactured in China except one brand (that I kept having bad reactions to). I just couldn't trust the quality or consistency of ingredients to really want to be inhaling that vapor into my lungs. So in my mind, snus is safer. I also prefer snus because of the stealth factor and "natural-ness" of it in comparison to e-cigs.

I understand that a lot of smokers won't take to snus right away because it's so different. So the e-cig is a good tool for smokers and if it works for them great!

[EricHill78]

Mr Snuff, did you ever use them in public? Did you have to explain over and over again it's not a cig?

[Mr. Snuffleupagus]

Mr Snuff, did you ever use them in public? Did you have to explain over and over again it's not a cig?

I did use them in public, but I wasn't showy about it. I did spend a lot of time explaining it to my friends and family, but random people never approached me about it much. I didn't use them inside restaurants or places where it would cause a stir much, plus I'm kinda crazy looking with my beard and mustache. Most people never noticed which is cool with me since I don't really like having to explain myself to strangers.

[lxskllr]

I like traditional tobacco forms. High tech approaches don't appeal to me in the least. Also, I don't completely trust ecigs. I know what's in snus, and what will always be in snus. With mystery liquid in a vial, who knows? If it doesn't come from China in the first place, some of the components could come from China, and I couldn't have less faith in a manufacturing country.

[truthwolf1]

The snus switch is more likely a little more difficult because it is really about nicotine and not the added hand to mouth.
I agree that anything is better then smoking but if you were a long time smoker I would not want my lungs to endure any more damage and start the healing process.

There is some info if you search about cilia in the lungs and how tar or possibly just direct blasts of nicotine inhibits them from working correctly.

That was one of the reseaons I never liked the idea of the e-smoke.

[Rattlesnake]

Does anybody use these?

[Veganpunk]

Does anybody use these?

My wife used one for a few weeks, she went back to smoking real cigs. though.

[CoderGuy]

My wife used one for a few weeks, she went back to smoking real cigs. though.

Me too in the beginning. They just aren't satisfying enough to quit smoking. Snus was the only thing that got me to quit (2 years now after 26 years smoking 2 pk a day)

[Rattlesnake]

I have been looking all over, reading all over the Net, this might be a viable alternative to traditional cigarettes for some people if the FDA lets us continue to obtain it. Yes, of course IMHO. It will from what I have seen and read, as of right now be a pretty good bit more expensive than snus of snuff however it might work for some people. Where snus and snuff does not. for whatever reason. IMHO again