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  • Toque Snuff
    Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 337

    Coruption in the EU

    We all know how corrupt the EU is, but why aren't we screaming from the roof tops. Snus saves lives yet big tobacco bribes the EU to keep on killing smokers by stopping snus from being sold in the rest of Europe. Does anyone have any ideas how we can tackle this? I as a snuff producer am getting really fed up with this and for the sake of smokers lives hope that Greece votes to leave the EU and that the whole embarrassing thing implodes.
  • lxskllr
    Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 13435

    #2
    The bigger the government, the more detached it is from the governed. It's also easy to hide corruption, and reduce accountability. The EU is just a bad idea. Grouping unlike people/cultures under one organization will never work.

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    • squeezyjohn
      Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 2497

      #3
      Hear Hear Roderick!

      My politics is towards the left wing side and people automatically think that I should be a natural supporter of closer European integration but this whole thing has gone beyond having political sides now. I realise that I am European, but I'm definitely English first! The corruption, unaccountability and full-speed ahead centralised bureaucracy of the EU is now setting alarm bells off with all kinds of people, not just far-right nationalists and natural xenophobes!

      I hope Greece sticks 2 fingers up, declares itself bankrupt and does a great job of rebuilding itself outside of the EU. I hope that other EU countries follow suit and ignore the blackmail that comes from Brussels and the Germans in particular. Much as I despise a lot of what David Cameron is doing as leader of the Conservative Party here in the UK, I hope he succeeds in being very confrontational with the EU in his demands for a renegotiation of Britain's role and obligations and starts a tidal wave that will weaken the EU's grip on power over it's nation states.

      The snus issue is obviously ridiculous - another personal one for me is making centuries old heirloom seeds illegal to sell unless each variety is tested at a cost of €3000 - making many traditional and local varieties of fruit, vegetables, and tobacco on the brink of extinction! I'm sure everyone has their own story to tell.

      I think it's perfectly possible to have a Europe that works together to trade freely and has close diplomatic ties to work together on issues and avoid internal conflicts and wars without this ridiculous political and financial union that goes over the heads of whole countries and is rotten to the core.

      If we in Europe had any significant oil reserves like they have in the Middle East, I'm sure the americans would be rubbing their hands together and getting their bombers ready to pounce at the first sign of weakness! Luckily all we have is some very old crumbling buildings and a lot of hairy armpits!
      Squeezyjohn

      Sometimes wrong and sometimes right .... but ALWAYS certain!!!

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      • Andy105
        Member
        • Nov 2013
        • 1393

        #4
        Originally posted by squeezyjohn View Post
        If we in Europe had any significant oil reserves like they have in the Middle East, I'm sure the americans would be rubbing their hands together and getting their bombers ready to pounce at the first sign of weakness! Luckily all we have is some very old crumbling buildings and a lot of hairy armpits!
        Yeah, in Europe we usually wait until the Brits ask for help, before we dust off our bombers.

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        • squeezyjohn
          Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 2497

          #5


          HELP!
          Squeezyjohn

          Sometimes wrong and sometimes right .... but ALWAYS certain!!!

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          • Andy105
            Member
            • Nov 2013
            • 1393

            #6
            Originally posted by squeezyjohn View Post


            HELP!
            Ok, but we're takin all the cheese, since there ain't no oil in Europe.

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            • Skell18
              Member
              • May 2012
              • 7067

              #7
              Leave our cheese out of this!

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              • squeezyjohn
                Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 2497

                #8
                Help yourselves ... can't stand the stuff!
                Squeezyjohn

                Sometimes wrong and sometimes right .... but ALWAYS certain!!!

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                • Snusdog
                  Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 6752

                  #9
                  Cheese?.......I'm in it for the ale and single malt

                  When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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                  • Skell18
                    Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 7067

                    #10
                    Squeezy hates cheese!! Don't get him started on that again!

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                    • kerlin219
                      Member
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 47

                      #11
                      Originally posted by squeezyjohn View Post
                      Hear Hear Roderick!

                      My politics is towards the left wing side and people automatically think that I should be a natural supporter of closer European integration but this whole thing has gone beyond having political sides now. I realise that I am European, but I'm definitely English first! The corruption, unaccountability and full-speed ahead centralised bureaucracy of the EU is now setting alarm bells off with all kinds of people, not just far-right nationalists and natural xenophobes!

                      I hope Greece sticks 2 fingers up, declares itself bankrupt and does a great job of rebuilding itself outside of the EU. I hope that other EU countries follow suit and ignore the blackmail that comes from Brussels and the Germans in particular. Much as I despise a lot of what David Cameron is doing as leader of the Conservative Party here in the UK, I hope he succeeds in being very confrontational with the EU in his demands for a renegotiation of Britain's role and obligations and starts a tidal wave that will weaken the EU's grip on power over it's nation states.

                      The snus issue is obviously ridiculous - another personal one for me is making centuries old heirloom seeds illegal to sell unless each variety is tested at a cost of €3000 - making many traditional and local varieties of fruit, vegetables, and tobacco on the brink of extinction! I'm sure everyone has their own story to tell.

                      I think it's perfectly possible to have a Europe that works together to trade freely and has close diplomatic ties to work together on issues and avoid internal conflicts and wars without this ridiculous political and financial union that goes over the heads of whole countries and is rotten to the core.

                      If we in Europe had any significant oil reserves like they have in the Middle East, I'm sure the americans would be rubbing their hands together and getting their bombers ready to pounce at the first sign of weakness! Luckily all we have is some very old crumbling buildings and a lot of hairy armpits!
                      Agree for the most part except on Greece they gladly accepted EU money for years, took the bailout and now it's payback time they cry and whine.This country fast going way of EU don't think for an instant we are an example to be followed , we could be Greece soon 16 TRILLION AND COUNTING

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