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  • Monkey
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 3290

    FDA Import Alerts

    https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/cms_ia/country_SE.html

    Check it out, you can click on the tobacco import alerts and see that Skruf is on the red list for marketing and labeling. One of the Skruf products is “Roda Lacket” so not sure what that means for Röda Lacket orders and snus orders in general. Both MakeWebo and Skruf AB are on the red list right now.

    Not sure what this means for the future of ordering personal use tobacco products from overseas…
  • Link
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 392

    #2
    Had no idea Skruf made Roda...... have both Roda and Skruff on order headed my way right now. Hope I think it was PP mentioning all should be well via one of the suppliers......

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    • Monkey
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 3290

      #3
      Yeah. I’m not worried, this is just an update to all the Skruf being taken off of some websites, and information.

      I have an order with Röda on it and I am pretty sure it will be delivered no worries, it’s a Swedish Match product. FDA mislabeled it on the red list. It has been in Kentucky for a few days, usually my stuff goes through Philly, but still not worried.

      Also, that link will update every time there is a red list addition or change, so we can keep abreast of what the FDA might be kicking back/when Skruf comes off the red list.

      No stress. Not trying to get everything riled up like when that passed PACT…everyone was a little nuts about that back then. Cool and calm…
      Last edited by Monkey; 02-03-24, 07:38 PM. Reason: The usual. Spelling. Incomplete thoughts.

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      • Premium Parrots
        Super Moderators
        • Feb 2008
        • 9758

        #4
        Well, that sucks
        Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......





        I've been wrong lots of times.  Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.


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        • Premium Parrots
          Super Moderators
          • Feb 2008
          • 9758

          #5
          It might be time to stock up on your go to snus. Swear to God....I have bout 15 year old snus vacumn sealed and in the freezer that is just like new. I even have a couple of rolls left of the offroad coffee/vanilla, I treat myself to one portion a day. I probably have bout 40 rolls of snus in the freezer right now. lol just be sure your go to snus stays your go to snus. Of those 40 rolls I think bout 16 are ving 99 coffee snus, which I like but not as much as the Helwit mocha. It won't hurt to stock up if you have room in the freezer.

          Who would ever think skruf would be banned from the US?
          Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......





          I've been wrong lots of times.  Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.


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          • Monkey
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 3290

            #6
            Originally posted by Premium Parrots View Post
            Who would ever think skruf would be banned from the US?
            I think it is really strange…but the tobacco companies might be doing this intentionally to see what the market for American snus exports are. They can have the FDA collect all of the sales data and then decide if it’s worth it to register and relabel for American sales. It gets cleared with labeling changes, Northerner starts selling it and boom big money from the “oh crap we can get it again” sales stocking up rolls on rolls. The companies know we stock deep, and a short artificial scarcity will allow them to jack prices for the American market once it makes its glorious return.

            See, I’m a bad capitalist because I can think like this, but would do the right thing because I believe in people over profits…and why I am not rich.

            I do hope the PMI owning many snus brands and having a small foothold here with General might make American packaging for export only what they own that is registered here (General, Ettan, Jakkobsons, Thunder) with the FDA…its only providing updates to the extant files with the FDA and specifically labeling/creating overlay labels for the snus for the American market.

            Or they go all in with Zyn…follow the money I guess.

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            • Link
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2008
              • 392

              #7
              Originally posted by Monkey View Post
              Yeah. I’m not worried, this is just an update to all the Skruf being taken off of some websites, and information.

              I have an order with Röda on it and I am pretty sure it will be delivered no worries, it’s a Swedish Match product. FDA mislabeled it on the red list. It has been in Kentucky for a few days, usually my stuff goes through Philly, but still not worried.

              Also, that link will update every time there is a red list addition or change, so we can keep abreast of what the FDA might be kicking back/when Skruf comes off the red list.

              No stress. Not trying to get everything riled up like when that passed PACT…everyone was a little nuts about that back then. Cool and calm…
              Mine is sitting in Germany atm. What is the deal usually when you see this type stuff go down? Basically a game of extortion between the Govt. and these companies or what? Think Skruf will be greenlighted eventually or is this the begnning of the end for them being shipped into the US?

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              • Monkey
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 3290

                #8
                Originally posted by Link View Post

                Mine is sitting in Germany atm. What is the deal usually when you see this type stuff go down? Basically a game of extortion between the Govt. and these companies or what? Think Skruf will be greenlighted eventually or is this the begnning of the end for them being shipped into the US?
                I hope these companies realize how much of their profits come from the US and it is worth it to make it available for export…unless I’m overestimating American usage. I’m good for 8 rolls of los a year if I only buy what I use. Usage+stocking favorites+trying new stuff+portions…like 12 rolls a year and that is being conservative with bare minimums. This year so far I’m in for 12 rolls (if this next order comes in) and it’s only March…so I am being real conservative. Probably closer to 25 a year for me (26 if I can get some Julessnus Los🫠).

                We are not super active here, and when I was on Reddit I was part of the snus subreddit. Just kinda watched it from afar, but they’re pretty active (but it’s not Snuson. This place is the bees knees) but, for illustrative purposes, the Snus subreddit has just over 30,000 members. It is heavily American, and let’s say half of those members are American and buy the equivalent of 1 roll a month, that’s 1,800,000 tins of Snus a year exported for personal to the US. Does that offset the cost of doing business in the US? Is the potential profit worth filing with the FDA? What is the upper limit these companies can charge to the American consumer?

                Business need data and if they “got on the red list” to get a report of the volume of Skruf and Röda Lacket coming into the US courtesy of the FDA, maybe they are doing a cost analysis for a potential filing with the FDA to label some of their products ::coughskrufstarkcough:: for export. That’s my hope.​

                At the end of the day it will come down to money. That is where all of the snus decisions I personally have not agreed with have been made…on the balance sheet.
                Last edited by Monkey; 03-03-24, 02:31 AM. Reason: Every time I think I did good I reread my post and find errors.

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                • Monkey
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 3290

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Premium Parrots View Post
                  It won't hurt to stock up if you have room in the freezer.
                  I’m here with my snus baron conspiracy theory, and PP is out here giving the real wisdom.

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                  • Link
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 392

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Monkey View Post


                    Business need data and if they “got on the red list” to get a report of the volume of Skruf and Röda Lacket coming into the US courtesy of the FDA, maybe they are doing a cost analysis for a potential filing with the FDA to label some of their products ::coughskrufstarkcough:: for export. That’s my hope.​

                    At the end of the day it will come down to money. That is where all of the snus decisions I personally have not agreed with have been made…on the balance sheet.
                    Im not a businessman, but figure they know from their own ordering system quantities shipped to US. Either way, money is always the deal and like PP said, stocking up isnt a bad idea.

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                    • Premium Parrots
                      Super Moderators
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 9758

                      #11
                      All ya need is a vacumn sealer and enough room in the freezer. I have 3 freezers, one half full of snus. if it lasts fifteen years stored that way I'll worry bout it after 15 years. However, my life expectancy is only like 2 years.......so I'm covered.
                      Last edited by Premium Parrots; 03-03-24, 07:10 AM. Reason: spelling
                      Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......





                      I've been wrong lots of times.  Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.


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                      • Monkey
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 3290

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Link View Post

                        Im not a businessman, but figure they know from their own ordering system quantities shipped to US. Either way, money is always the deal and like PP said, stocking up isnt a bad idea.
                        I think once it gets to an online vendor it could go anywhere, they know what sells online, but where it goes might be difficult to get. I don’t think vendors would give that data to the companies.

                        Also check this out for another spin. I don’t know if y'all watch YouTube much, but here’s Outlaw talking up General over nic pouches…and it feels like a 15 minute commercial for General to me…and he has his own dip brand.

                        https://youtu.be/KQ-zGYGhxhU?si=66-6gOKIIhhWltmN

                        Not trying to drive to his channel, honestly don’t click it. Or do, I’m not affiliated in any way. I think if Nic pouches get banned, snus has a spot to slide in…for better or for worse…and there are voices out there speaking for both sides…but it’s probably just big tobacco fueling both sides. No bad press, am I right? Either way, it’s a hot topic and we’re going to see what happens I guess.

                        Regardless, PP is right, don’t get caught with your freezer low cause in theatres now:

                        Snuspocaplyse Part II, Ten Years Later

                        Man, I think I have a conspiracy theory problem…or I’m right and Elvis will come back from the moon using Siberia.

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                        • Premium Parrots
                          Super Moderators
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 9758

                          #13
                          I think Elvis be using Swave snus. Makes sense to me.


                          then again maybe he uses Dope snus.
                          Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......





                          I've been wrong lots of times.  Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.


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                          • Link
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 392

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Monkey View Post

                            I think once it gets to an online vendor it could go anywhere, they know what sells online, but where it goes might be difficult to get. I don’t think vendors would give that data to the companies.

                            Also check this out for another spin. I don’t know if y'all watch YouTube much, but here’s Outlaw talking up General over nic pouches…and it feels like a 15 minute commercial for General to me…and he has his own dip brand.

                            https://youtu.be/KQ-zGYGhxhU?si=66-6gOKIIhhWltmN

                            Not trying to drive to his channel, honestly don’t click it. Or do, I’m not affiliated in any way. I think if Nic pouches get banned, snus has a spot to slide in…for better or for worse…and there are voices out there speaking for both sides…but it’s probably just big tobacco fueling both sides. No bad press, am I right? Either way, it’s a hot topic and we’re going to see what happens I guess.

                            Regardless, PP is right, don’t get caught with your freezer low cause in theatres now:

                            Snuspocaplyse Part II, Ten Years Later

                            Man, I think I have a conspiracy theory problem…or I’m right and Elvis will come back from the moon using Siberia.
                            Ahh. Thanks for the claification. Snus wars. Elvis and Andy battling it out from the moon over mankinds natural or syn future. Tucker Carlson like Zyn.

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                            • Monkey
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 3290

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Link View Post

                              Ahh. Thanks for the claification. Snus wars. Elvis and Andy battling it out from the moon over mankinds natural or syn future. Tucker Carlson like Zyn.
                              I saw a video of him talking about Zyn, that was weird as all get out. Lizard People using Zyn. Cats and dogs living together…

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