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  • MN_Snuser
    Member
    • May 2008
    • 354

    Altria Taking Snus Nationwide

    Altria Taking Snus Nationwide
    Company offers snus as a new smokeless alternative.


    RICHMOND (AP) - Cigarette maker Altria Group Inc. said Thursday that it plans to expand its Marlboro Snus smokeless tobacco nationwide by the end of March as it looks to shore up its business as American smoke fewer cigarettes.

    The Richmond-based owner of Philip Morris USA, which makes the top-selling Marlboro brand, began testing the product in select markets in 2007. Snus (pronounced "snoose") are teabag-like pouches that users stick between their cheek and gum.

    As tax increases, health concerns, smoking bans and social stigma continue cutting demand for cigarettes, Altria and other tobacco companies are seeking growth in cigarette alternatives - such as cigars, snuff and chewing tobacco - to keep customers.

    In a presentation at a consumer analyst conference on Thursday, Altria's Chief Executive Michael E. Szymanczyk said a significant number of consumers now switch between tobacco categories and use different kinds of tobacco products but offered no figures.

    Altria said in recent years that cigarette volumes have declined by about 4 percent per year, while the smokeless tobacco segment has grown by about 7 percent per year. The company, which also sells Black & Mild cigars, said the machine-made large cigar category has grown about 3 percent per year.

    In 2009, the industry estimates cigarette volumes fell about 8 percent, partly because of a 62-cents-per-pack federal tax increase that took effect in April and related price increases.

    Still, smokeless tobacco is a small business compared with cigarettes, and smokers haven't exactly embraced snus.

    The nation's tobacco companies made a collective $9.4 billion in profits last year for cigarettes, while profits for the smokeless segment, which includes snus, snuff and chewing tobacco, were about $1 billion, Szymanczyk said in the presentation. And there were an estimated 45 million adult smokers in the U.S. in 2008, compared with about 7 million smokeless tobacco users that year, according to figures from Altria's Web site.

    Last week, Greensboro, N.C.-based Lorillard Inc. announced that is was discontinuing a joint venture with Swedish Match for its Triumph Snus. Philip Morris USA had previously tested a smokeless, spitless tobacco product dubbed Taboka in 2006, which was later discontinued.

    Meanwhile, Winston-Salem, N.C.-based Reynolds American Inc. rolled out its Camel Snus product nationally last year, after testing the product since 2006, and has said the product has gained popularity.

    Read the original story here:

    http://www.wtvr.com/news/wtvr-snusna...0,239056.story
  • RRK
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    • Sep 2009
    • 926

    #2
    Wait, Taboka is Phillip Morris?

    OH never mind its not the same as Taboca.

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    • scylla
      Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 44

      #3
      Idiotic american manufacturers NEED to hire some swedish snus experts or the products they sell will always be substandard garbage.

      I wish tobacco companies were more like winemakers. Some of our american wines rank with the best in the world.

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      • WickedKitchen
        Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 2528

        #4
        Originally posted by scylla
        I wish tobacco companies were more like winemakers. Some of our american wines rank with the best in the world.
        I couldn't agree more. To me they are a little like that, they all have their little nuances that are sometimes more appropriate or just seem better at the time. I like variety. I think they just can't market it that way. oddly one can market a clearly more immanently dangerous chemical (alcohol) that way...but tobacco? Aye yey yey.

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        • chadizzy1
          Member
          • May 2009
          • 7432

          #5
          Originally posted by RRK
          Wait, Taboka is Phillip Morris?

          OH never mind its not the same as Taboca.
          Wasn't Taboka the first round of Marlboro snus, like their original test?

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          • snusjus
            Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 2674

            #6
            Originally posted by chadizzy1
            Originally posted by RRK
            Wait, Taboka is Phillip Morris?

            OH never mind its not the same as Taboca.
            Wasn't Taboka the first round of Marlboro snus, like their original test?
            Yes. Taboka was test marketed in Indianapolis before Marlboro "Snus" existed. The product failed miserably yet Altria thinks re-branding the same sub-standard product will make it sell better.

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            • tom502
              Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 8985

              #7
              I was hoping Marlboro would come out with a manly real snus in a can, and equal to something like Grov.

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              • ville123
                Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 93

                #8
                That will never happen. They make the snus so crappy and weak with nic so it will just subside the ciggie-less blues until you can finally go out for a cig. In my opinion, the camel and the marlboro snus is just a supplementary product to go along with tobacco smoking.

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                • GoVegan
                  Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 5603

                  #9
                  Sometimes I wonder if Altria supports the PACT Act just because they don't have anything that comes close to Swedish Snus and is afraid of getting wiped out of the snus market completely. Anyway, Altria does support PACT and does not deserve our support.

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                  • Mordred
                    Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 342

                    #10
                    Regardless of the quality of Malboro Snus, this is a good thing. Never forget how many people got into Swedish Snus through Camel Snus. As american Snus spreads, so will the use of Swedish Snus. And if General can grab a fair share of the market, there's a good chance that american Snus will adapt to compete with the Swedish brands.

                    It's similar to Smoking Everywhere/Njoy in the e-cigarette market. We know that their products are way overpriced and that their marketing is dubious, but they're at the forefront of getting e-cigarettes out there and fighting FDA bans, so they have my moral support.

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                    • BadAxe
                      Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 631

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Mordred
                      Regardless of the quality of Malboro Snus, this is a good thing. Never forget how many people got into Swedish Snus through Camel Snus. As american Snus spreads, so will the use of Swedish Snus. And if General can grab a fair share of the market, there's a good chance that american Snus will adapt to compete with the Swedish brands.
                      I am not so sure. What I see happening is the more popular it gets in the US the more they try to prevent us from ordering it online, then we have to buy it locally, pay $7 a tin for it, and all american snus, which will not change the way they are making it, because it will be our only choice. Yea, I hope snus stays under the radar for a longgggggg time. lol. But thats also why I am filling the crap out of my freezer with snus snus and more snus.

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                      • snusjus
                        Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 2674

                        #12
                        My store now has Marlboro "Snus". There is an obnoxious display sign too. Now I have to see it every day I'm working. Bleh.

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                        • LHB
                          Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 115

                          #13
                          On the bright side, Altria's push into the Snus market makes it far less likely that the FDA will ban flavorings in tobacco products. Can you imagine those heinous MF'ers at Phillip Morris marketing a "natural" tobacco based snus without any flavorings or adulterants? The FDA poses a far greater threat to the future of snus and snuff than a bunch of hack Senators or Congressman touting the third version of the PACT Act, but not so much with Phillip Morris and Reynolds money working against them.

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                          • GENERAL BILLY
                            Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 528

                            #14
                            I think we are in the equivalent of beer in the 70's. American products are just weaker versions. Let Camel and Marlboro make their shitty products. Hopefully it will lead to good "microbrew" American products eventually.

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                            • G_Jones
                              Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 69

                              #15
                              They are destroying the credibility of the "Marlboro" brand name by peddling this candy-flavored fake stuff. Whatever it is, it isn't snus. Can't they be held legally liable for selling a product that isn't actually snus? Why don't they just try and sell Phillip Morris 1847 in the states at least.

                              Maybe one of the American dip manufacturers could be talked into selling a real snus instead.

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