Tea Party less Gov.- Firefighters refuse to put out fire

[RobsanX]

It sure the hell is a volunteer fire department...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39535911/ns/us_news-life/

Well then I guess it's a good thing that they didn't turn on the hose. Right?

That article also said that some of the fire fighters went home and got sick and were crying. I guess even they now understand that their actions were wrong.

[Mordred]

Yes, well done RobsanX, you found a firefighter who doesn't care about money. Cool. So if you live in Vonore, you can skip paying the $100 a year and get a nice bj or two for that money, because Steve Wheeler will come and help you regardless.

Of course, he might find that hard to do with a $0 budget. I suppose that would buy him an abandoned rusty bucket with which to put out fires. Or, to sum it up, Mr Wheeler isn't a hero, he's a naive fool.

[Curtisp]

What if you refuse to pay gov mandated flood insurance?..oh yeah, no bank will mortgage you..if you choose to live out in the sticks, and choose to not pay for "city"esque services, no one comes from the "city" to help. Gas, grass,or ass..no one rides for free anymore.

[truthwolf1]

Not sure if we ever were a society that bent the rules to help a fellow citizen but this definately shows where we sit today.

[justintempler]

Well then I guess it's a good thing that they didn't turn on the hose. Right?

That article also said that some of the fire fighters went home and got sick and were crying. I guess even they now understand that their actions were wrong.

People get sad and cry when they put their pets to sleep too, that doesn't make it wrong. Sometimes you have to do things that you aren't happy with.

If it bugs enough people maybe they'll be a little more willing to vote for an increase in their taxes to pay for services they say they want. Isn't that why we have elections? They've been fighting over this issue for 20 years, maybe this time they'll reach a solution, or not.

[sgreger1]

$75 a month for fire protection? I'd rather go with the "evil big government" approach and stick with paying taxes.

$75 a year

[sgreger1]

It's really sad that all Neocons care about is few extra bucks in their wallets. They care nothing about helping their neighbors and countrymen. They can all go to hell..

You are either pruposely ignoring the situation or uncapable of wrappign your head around it.

Fire services cost money. It is nice to think firefighters would work for free and free firetrucks would be donated for free but that's not how it works. This town had no fire dept. The neighboring town said that for the modest price of $75 a year, we will sell you our services, because we cannot afford to do it for free. Everyone was on board but this guy. They showed up, made sure no one was hurt and that no neighbors houses burnt down & that the fire didn't spread, but his trailer was already on fire and there wasn't really anything they could have done at that point anyways.

This is not about neocons trying to make a profit, this is about real life, not some dreamworld where every essential service comes at no cost to anyone. Fire fighters are expensive and have to be funded.

[tom502]

Who cares, we have only 5 days to go.

[RobsanX]

This is not about neocons trying to make a profit,

I know it's not about profit. It's about punishment. Instead of simply fighting the fire, they took the time to look up whether this family had paid or not.

Oh, he didn't pay the $75 this year, screw him, let it burn. Animals inside you say? Not my effing problem, he didn't pay.

[tom502]

Money is their god.

[sgreger1]

I know it's not about profit. It's about punishment. Instead of simply fighting the fire, they took the time to look up whether this family had paid or not.

Oh, he didn't pay the $75 this year, screw him, let it burn. Animals inside you say? Not my effing problem, he didn't pay.

THe problem is that this subject is exciting your human emotion and not your logic. We understand that this is a tragic situation and if it were me I would have said **** it and put his house out anyways, my job be damned. But what they did was completely reasonable. The guy knew that if his house burned down, it would not be put out. He was told that REPEATEDLY, and every time he said "I will take that risk, I would rather keep my $75 this year".

Stop treating people like children RObansX, this was a grown man who knowing put his family and pets in danger. This was no surprise to him, he was told they would not come if he didn't pay for fire services. If it were not for the next city over being so nice, he would have had no fire services at all, then who is to blame? Now they are getting shit for offering an OPTION to him, which he REPEATEDLY declined.

Now he has an army of idiot sympathizers at his side screaming about how he didn't get to have his cake and eat it too. I hope he enjoyed the $75, what a greedy selfish man to put him and others in danger over $75, his decision to not buy fire services for could have cost people their lives or property. What an idiot.


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"Animals inside you say? Not my effing problem,"

Your right, it's NOT their f'ing problem. They are not the firefighters in that jurisdiction. It's no more their "problem" or responsibility to put out that fire than it is yours. They just offered to do so if he pays them for protection. And he did not.

The right thing to do would be to put it out anyways and just get fired, but I certainly don't feel bad for this slefish idiot driven by greed who's house burned down. Hopefully he learned a lesson about ****ing others with your stupid decisions.

[justintempler]

http://www.nwtntoday.com/news.php?viewStory=47109

...“Over 85 percent or more of all our fire calls are in the rural areas of Obion County. All repairs, maintenance and operating budgets are provided to the municipal fire departments from their municipal budgets paid by the municipal taxpayer...

It's not about punishment, it's about survival. If 85% of the fires you fight are for people who don't pay you go broke. I lived in a town just like South Fulton, and it really is that bad. It's not that people don't care, I met many loving people. They have very limited resources, so they have to choose who to help.

South Fulton, Tn

The per capita income for the city was $15,983. About 15.0% of families and 16.0% of the population were below the poverty line, including 22.2% of those under age 18 and 18.1% of those age 65 or over.

Unless you've lived in a town like that, it''s hard to imagine the hard choices you are forced to make.

[sgreger1]

I understand how great it would be to live ina world where everyone who is sick or injured gets treated for free, and that no one ever be denied services down to the last second. I know how nice it would be to live ina world where all essential services were done out of the compasion of people's hearts and not because of the income it provided to the people who render these serices to feed their families.

The problem is that this cannot always happen. As a society, we in America try very hard to have a bottom line "standard" such as fire services for everyone etc. I take 0 issue with my tax dollars going to put other people's houses on fire. If this man didn't have money and couldn't buy protection, I would personally pay his fee. We are for the most part all good people in America. But in small towns like this, money/resources is a very real problem. When you have 7 million people like CA, it is easy to spread around the burden, but in a small town of maybe 1,000 people, setting up full fire services just for your town is very expensive. It would cost people hundreds of dolars a month to sustain a fire station. Therefore the next city over provided the best alternate solution, we will contract out to you, but you have to pay your fair share. They didn't force them to buy it, they gave them the choice because they are adults. This guy did not think ahead and was dumb enough to think having fire extinguishing services was not worth $75 and decided he could handle it on it's own.

He could, aparently, not handle it on his own. I'm sorry, and I wish I could have helped, but truly this is not a case of money hungry neocon bastards watching some poor man's house burn over a technicality. This is simple economics and how things work out there in the real world. I'm sorry, but this is a tragedy he put on himself, and there is not a single human soul to blame except this man, who felt he could handle it on his own and wanted to keep his $75, as he is entitled to. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

[timholian]

So, Sgreger, I understand completely where your opinion is coming from, and I sort of agree except for one thing. I am not even sure it applies here but I will share my thought anyway.

I give to the Police and Fire charities here in Houston. My taxes already pay for those services but I feel the need to extend what I already give in taxes because I care and appreciate what they do for me and my family. These charities are to help those families from fallen policemen and firemen (and women). Now my quandary: Should these families not already have life insurance to help in the unfortunate case of their respective family member dying in the line of duty? Should they not already have plans in place if, God forbid, anything like that happen? So, why would they need a charity?

This guy should have paid the cash but since he didn't and the firemen where there already, would it not have made sense to put out the fire only to in turn send him a bill for the full amount that it took to put the fire out?

I dunno..... but it is a f.uck.ed situation.
Long time no post for me I know.... lol.... but I lurk around everyday. lol

[timoteo]

about 3 or 4 months ago, i really started hating the word "tea party."

if things wernt so crappy due to d*cks, douches, crooks and greed, "tea party" would still be a thing from 1773 in Boston.

thats all