Mars

[TheOneandOnly]

So Hitler never shot himself? The Russians dont have his skull? Himmler did not surrender to the allies? Goering did not kill himself? So who the hell went to the Moon???

I assume Eichmann was pissed, since his buddies left for Aldebaron and left him to be caught in Argentina huh?

[Premium Parrots]

Thats just like one of the crafts that I saw years ago.

[tom502]

Hitler's "killing himself" was recently totally debunked. I think it was on Mythbusters. They tested the Russian bones, and it's not him, it's from a woman, and the only witness who claims to have heard a shot, was not in an area that he could have heard it. So, it's a myth Hitler killed himself. There is no body, no dna, no witnesses.

[TheOneandOnly]

Hitler's "killing himself" was recently totally debunked. I think it was on Mythbusters. They tested the Russian bones, and it's not him, it's from a woman, and the only witness who claims to have heard a shot, was not in an area that he could have heard it. So, it's a myth Hitler killed himself. There is no body, no dna, no witnesses.

What about the rest of what I said?

[Roo]

Tom idolizes Nazis and attributes their scientific acheivements to supernatural/extraterestrial contributions. Haven't we been over this a million times? He's not changing his mind.

[Ainkor]

Popcorn time!

[sgreger1]

Toms beliefs are a romanticism of an otherwise true event.

True: nazis were very interested in flying saucers, i.e. Circular wing aircraft that could hover and outperform thr modern aircraft of the day. The united states and europe also funded these projects, and the outcome of all three projects was vehicles that resemble modern day ufo's.

The nazis were ahead of us at everying, particularly tanks and aircraft, so it is not a far fetched assumption to assume they were ahead of us in their aerospace program as well.

The nazis did build ufo's, and tested them at least a few times, us intelligence documents and reports from troops on the ground coroborate this fact.

Also, tom is correct, the skull of hitler is a highly contentious subject, especially in light of recent dna tests that prove almost certain that the skull the russians have could not be hitlers. Hitler may not have died there, but he was sick, in poor health, and every world power was looking for him. I doubt he made it to mars.

Additionally, after the war, the us siezed the nazi research and nazi researchers, and gained control of their aerospace technology. This played a major role in history as it co tributed greatly to the us's science programs over the next few decades.



False: nazis secretly escaped to the moon.




Hitler had "flying saucers" though all reports indicate that they werent anything particularly special, which is why the circu,ar wing aircraft research was abandoned in all countries after a few years. The military invented the helicopter and chose this as the ideal "flying jeep" for transporting troops, hovering, and other non jet related applications. The alternate theory is that the circular wing aircraft design was much more successfull than advertised and the military continued funding it for years after, which is why we still hear about flying saucers today.





So tom is correct in that hitler had these machines, and there is significant evidence to prove that. How well they performed is another question. I highly doubt they were capable of interstellar travel, and even more unlikely is the notion that the nazi elite fled to mars on them.



This is a classic case of a really cool and unknown part of history being romanticized into something it's not. Nazi ufo's yes, hitler flying to the pladeian star system no.



I hope that clears some of this up.

[Premium Parrots]

Toms beliefs are a romanticism of an otherwise true event.

True: nazis were very interested in flying saucers, i.e. Circular wing aircraft that could hover and outperform thr modern aircraft of the day. The united states and europe also funded these projects, and the outcome of all three projects was vehicles that resemble modern day ufo's.

The nazis were ahead of us at everying, particularly tanks and aircraft, so it is not a far fetched assumption to assume they were ahead of us in their aerospace program as well.

The nazis did build ufo's, and tested them at least a few times, us intelligence documents and reports from troops on the ground coroborate this fact.

Also, tom is correct, the skull of hitler is a highly contentious subject, especially in light of recent dna tests that prove almost certain that the skull the russians have could not be hitlers. Hitler may not have died there, but he was sick, in poor health, and every world power was looking for him. I doubt he made it to mars.

Additionally, after the war, the us siezed the nazi research and nazi researchers, and gained control of their aerospace technology. This played a major role in history as it co tributed greatly to the us's science programs over the next few decades.



False: nazis secretly escaped to the moon.




Hitler had "flying saucers" though all reports indicate that they werent anything particularly special, which is why the circu,ar wing aircraft research was abandoned in all countries after a few years. The military invented the helicopter and chose this as the ideal "flying jeep" for transporting troops, hovering, and other non jet related applications. The alternate theory is that the circular wing aircraft design was much more successfull than advertised and the military continued funding it for years after, which is why we still hear about flying saucers today.





So tom is correct in that hitler had these machines, and there is significant evidence to prove that. How well they performed is another question. I highly doubt they were capable of interstellar travel, and even more unlikely is the notion that the nazi elite fled to mars on them.



This is a classic case of a really cool and unknown part of history being romanticized into something it's not. Nazi ufo's yes, hitler flying to the pladeian star system no.



I hope that clears some of this up.

So you admit that almost 100% of what Tom says is correct. The things you say are false sounds like they are maybes and the in the last part you say you "highly doubt". Looks to me like you could be interpeted as agreeing with Tom.

finally a meeting of the minds.


good job Tom

[Owens187]

What I don't get - the nazi scumbags had the technology to fly to distant galaxy's and whatnot, but they couldn't even make their damn cameras take a clear and believable picture? Riiiiggghhhhtt....

Tom should relocate out here to Cali, where at least he can smoke that shit *semi* legally, and maybe fully legally next month.....

[tom502]

There is more truth to this than not. Also the top Thule and Vril people were not "captured" after the war. Just like the USA, they had different depts working on different projects. While the US did get Von Braun, and his standard rocketry science, they did not get the Thule and Vril people, and their hybrid saucer tech. Those were shipped to NueSchwabenland. Which is extremely large. There is possiblity the Roswell crash was not "alien", but Nazi. While I do believe in ETs, so many people say, why would they travel so many millions of light years and whatnot, I don't think they do. It's either easier and quicker, maybe they have a stargate or can bend space, wormhole, something, or, I tend to think they are close by, and have been, for near forever, under the ground, under the oceans, dark side of the moon, and Mars. The US government knows the Nazi-ET alliance is still around, stronger than before, and visible in the skies.

[Roo]

You are all barking mad

[sgreger1]

So you admit that almost 100% of what Tom says is correct. The things you say are false sounds like they are maybes and the in the last part you say you "highly doubt". Looks to me like you could be interpeted as agreeing with Tom.

finally a meeting of the minds.


good job Tom

No i dont agree with his theory that aliens helped hitler and thule society vrill hanibu neuschwabenland <--- any of that shit. What i am saying is that at least part of his story has truth, in that there was a legitimate program ran by germany to try to develope circular wing (flying saucer) aircraft. The us, europe, and the russians had it too. The russians even planned to sell them in the commercial sector as flying cars. Eventually the helicopter was invented and that solved everyones needs and became the standard for troop insertion and extraction, and therefore the circular wing design was abandoned.


I am just saying that nazi ufo's were not some alien tech but rather a piece of military hardware that everyone was developing at the time. Kind of like the stealth bomber, we know it existed, but tom is coming and saying that aliens gave the tech. The only truth in the story is that it existed.

(and some of these websitrs online claim stealth technology was from aliens too!)

[WickedKitchen]

The guns on that ship seem a bit odd. I know it's a grainy photo, but it looks to me to be something that doesn't exactly go into space...if at all.

Surely the Nazis had tractor beams, and ray guns all ready.

[TheOneandOnly]

So say the Nazi Elite including Hitler escaped to Antarctica.. So what do they do now? How do you survive without constants shippings of food, fuel, construction supplies and equipment?

[tom502]

Well, they had connections and possbile bases in Argentina and other places. They could get supplies, I think.