Evidence President Barack Obama is a Secret Muslim

[bprsnt]

snupy: Much like some Christians suggesting gays should be killed because THEIR invisible friend says so.

You obviously have issues with Christians.
Pick and chose what you want if you are so much in defense of gays maybe look to Iran to be mad at.
You’re the one who said : It's rather funny to see the Christians all up in arms over Muslims killing heretics.
I don’t think any of it is funny invisible or not.

The point (Christians) aren't justified in being up in arms over non-Christian believers advocating the killing of heretics is BS
Grouping all Christians together is no better than grouping all Muslims together. You’re the one who started with that minor nuance.

[devilock76]

snupy: Much like some Christians suggesting gays should be killed because THEIR invisible friend says so.

You obviously have issues with Christians.
Pick and chose what you want if you are so much in defense of gays maybe look to Iran to be mad at.
You’re the one who said : It's rather funny to see the Christians all up in arms over Muslims killing heretics.
I don’t think any of it is funny invisible or not.

The point (Christians) aren't justified in being up in arms over non-Christian believers advocating the killing of heretics is BS
Grouping all Christians together is no better than grouping all Muslims together. You’re the one who started with that minor nuance.

Yes, it is Tom's job to stereotype people by their religion, although granted his target is usually Muslims so we can all laugh about it, har har har.

Ken

[snupy]

You obviously have issues with Christians.

No, I just do not believe in things for which there is no CREDIBLE evidence, such as gnomes, Jesus, leprechauns, Allah, the Tooth Fairy, Xenu, Zeus, Krishna, Ganesha, Athena, Thor, etc and so on. Now if anyone can cough up some proof for these entities, I will be more than happy to change my views. Yet, for some reason, in all of these thousands of years, not one soul has produced so much as the tiniest shred of proof. I wonder why that is?

Pick and chose what you want if you are so much in defense of gays maybe look to Iran to be mad at.

Iran is the perfect example of what results from a theocracy, much like the Christian theocracy of the Dark Ages. There is no rhyme or reason under such law, because the law is always based on what some invisible and unproven entity supposedly said or believes.

You’re the one who said : It's rather funny to see the Christians all up in arms over Muslims killing heretics.
I don’t think any of it is funny invisible or not.

The hypocrisy is very funny, even if the results of it are not.

Grouping all Christians together is no better than grouping all Muslims together. You’re the one who started with that minor nuance.

Not all muslims scream for blood if a Quran is burnt or a cartoon of Mohamed is penned. Painting all muslims as extremists is no more fair than painting all Christians as extremist. I will leave it to the readers here to read what I have posted and pay special notice to my use of the word 'some' in reference to Christians, but that will only lead them to see how false your claim is that I make claims about Christians as a whole, when I specifically noted only 'some' of them supported what I claimed.

[tom502]

I believe in freedom, and respect for others. I personally don't care what faith one chooses for themself. Islam is a totally different story, because Islam is not a personal faith choice, it's a totalitarian political cult with aim of world domination, that does not respect freedom of religion. A person is a Buddhist, Christian, Hindu, because it's their personal faith choice, and if their little brother decides they don't to be it anymore, the person is not killed, usually by their own parents or siblings. In Islamic nation, there is no freedom of religious choice, and they are the most extreme anti-gay people, they will kill you for being gay, they will kill you for speaking bad about Muhammed, they will kill you if you decide you don't want to be a Muslim. Islam cannot be compared with the other religions, because, it is not a personal faith choice, with respect to others.

[snupy]

Islam is a totally different story, because Islam is not a personal faith choice, it's a totalitarian political cult with aim of world domination, that does not respect freedom of religion.

If what you say is true, then how is it that a muslim would tip off the FBI to a muslim terrorst?

The tip that led to the FBI’s subway bombing sting came from a source in the Muslim community

Gee, I wonder if it's possible for a US muslim to have a family in the suburbs, yet not want bombs to be going off near their kids? Naaa, it couldn't be.

***blinks***

[tom502]

Of course not all Muslims are killer fanatics, but lets say there are 1.57 billion Muslims, which is what Wiki says, and let's say only 10% are fanatics, though I think it's more, this means there are 15.7 million fanatical killers out there, killing, maiming, and raping in the name of Allah every day.

[snupy]

Of course not all Muslims are killer fanatics

Exactly! The End!

[sgreger1]

It's rather funny to see the Christians all up in arms over muslims killing heretics. Methinks the Christians have forgotten rather large parts of the history of their own religion.

Methinks someone is forgetting that we are talking about today (2010), where the acceptable rules of society are much different than the period you are referencing from a thousand years ago.

I could say me enslaving your wife/husband is acceptable because that's what your ancestors did a thousand years ago, but it doesn't change the fact that in today's day and age that would be wrong.

[lxskllr]

I've gotta side with Tom on this. Islam is a more primitive religion, and many of the practices/philosophies are archaic. They're starting to evolve to not take their brand of bullshit so seriously, but that takes time, like centuries kind of time. I don't know that 10% are fanatics, but lets lowball it, and say 1% are fanatics. That's a shitload of fanatics running around, and pretty much unprecedented in any modern movement, religious or otherwise.

[sgreger1]

Would that include supporting Uganda's death penalty for gays, which was supported by some US evangelicals?

Yes a small church group supporting anti-gay policies is terrible, however it PALES in comparison to entire Muslim countries where gays have always been prosecuted. Why do you cite a group of american christians supporting anti-gay policies in 1 country, while nearly the entire middle east has had that policy for thousands of years?

At no point did I justify jihad. My point was Christians aren't justified in being up in arms over non-Christian believers advocating the killing of heretics.

I think that anyone and everyone should be up in arms about all of this from both sides. It is justified, imo, to be up in arms over people being killed just because they are not muslim or just because they say something that is interpreted as being against Mohammad. They SHOULD be up in arms at the fact that drawing a cartoon of mohammad means assasins will come to your house and murder you. They should also be up in arms that we have America citizens over in Uganda advocating people be killed simply based on their sexual orientation alone. All of this is completely rediculous and a spit in the face of decades of humans rights progress.

Much like some Christians suggesting gays should be killed because THEIR invisible friend says so.

The difference is that Christians here do not actually kill people because they are gay. That is the bottom line here: Christianity and Islam share a lot in regards to their whacky beliefs and complete lack of human rights inherent to their traditions, but christians are less of an international menace because while christians may have these beliefs, they are not carried out via the courts.

Surely you can see where we're coming from on this? You are campaigning against christians because 1 church group goes to Uganda and embarrases our country by advocating that they persecute gays (something which America does NOT tolerate as a people or as a nation), and yet seem to defend against a religion which actively prosecutes gays. Spock would be dissapoint.

[tom502]

They don't just prosecute them, they kill them, in their country it's illegal to be gay.

[devilock76]

Of course not all Muslims are killer fanatics, but lets say there are 1.57 billion Muslims, which is what Wiki says, and let's say only 10% are fanatics, though I think it's more, this means there are 15.7 million fanatical killers out there, killing, maiming, and raping in the name of Allah every day.

And that is why some people believe in Space Nazi's so that they can one day come back and show these amateurs how real persecution and genocide is done. Right?

Ken

[justintempler]

Yes a small church group supporting anti-gay policies is terrible, however it PALES in comparison to entire Muslim countries where gays have always been prosecuted. Why do you cite a group of american christians supporting anti-gay policies in 1 country, while nearly the entire middle east has had that policy for thousands of years....

I'm siding with snupy,

We have to learn to stop sticking our noses into the affairs of other countries. So what their problems are so much worse? Do you want us to keep playing world policeman? We have enough problems here at home. Let's get our own house in order first.

[truthwolf1]

I think we should send in as many "Janeane garofalo's" as possible to introduce feminism to their culture. They would after awhile start demanding equal rights, alimony and restraining orders while working on their careers.

This would drastically reduce the overbreeding mentality of the current situation in the name of "Allah"!

[tom502]

They have her head on a stake if she went over there, showing the world their peace and tolerance.