K2 to be banned soon!

[GoVegan]

I found this article and I guess the DEA now has the right to ban stuff.

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/n...src=RSS_PUBLIC

I don't use K2 but if you do, get it while you can. Despite all the tea party hype, our government is still in the ban mode.

[raptor]

That stuff is really potentially dangerous... who knows what quality controls, if any, were used to make the designer drugs

[TommyGunBC]

Good they should ban it , who knows what they put in that stuff and marijuana is very easy to find most places and can be grown yourself if you have to worry about random drug testing for your job and like to get high sorry about your luck .

[GoVegan]

I don't smoke pot or K2 but am really getting sick of not being able to read the news without reading about another product that is being banned for our own good. I have a better idea. Why not require manufacturers to list all of the ingredients that their product contains and allow adults to make a decision about whether they are going to use it or not. Even in food, you would not believe all of the stuff a manufacturer can hide just be listing it as a natural or artificial flavor. I have a feeling there is something else besides "our own good" behind this ban. I do have a feeling that The Pact Act has tainted my view in this area however.

[lxskllr]

Nothing should be banned. It isn't the government's place to regulate people's pursuit of happiness. I think I read that somewhere. Maybe it was in the bible or something....

[snusjus]

Complete stupidity. I have tried the stuff and it's comparable to marijuana in certain ways, but different in others. Whenever the DEA finds out about a mind altering substance, they are quick to ban it, unless it was developed by the pharmaceutical industry.

[raptor]

I have a feeling there is something else besides "our own good" behind this ban.

Of course, it's an extension of the archaic "pleasure = sin". Yes, listing ingredients would be a good thing, but there are many industries who have fought doing so for a very long time (alcohol, tobacco and even pharmaceuticals).

As for banning in general, yes I guess "not banning" would be feasible but government intervention through regulations and quality control is absolutely necessary.

[Mordred]

Of course, it's an extension of the archaic "pleasure = sin". Yes, listing ingredients would be a good thing, but there are many industries who have fought doing so for a very long time (alcohol, tobacco and even pharmaceuticals).

As for banning in general, yes I guess "not banning" would be feasible but government intervention through regulations and quality control is absolutely necessary.

You started off on the right track, but then you fell for the same old trap. Government regulations are actually counterproductive, because they take the responsibility out of the hands of the producers and the users. In other words, if something goes wrong, neither the producer or the user can be held accountable, it'll all be shouldered by the government, in other words OUR tax money.

Let people smoke whatever it is they want to smoke, as long as they do it on the understanding that it's their risk and that if they get sick, they'll need to sort it out themselves.

[justintempler]

More nanny state. The only reason K2 exists, it is a legal alternative people used to avoid getting busted for pot. Legalize/decriminalize pot and the reason for K2 goes away.

[voodoo]

"If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson

[f. bandersnatch]

Im glad to see the FDA wearing themselves out chasing around after this shit and (ostensibly) not banning tobacco products. There are so many variants of synthetic THC that things comparable to K2 will always be available, at least until the country comes to its senses and legalizes drugs.

[raptor]

You started off on the right track, but then you fell for the same old trap. Government regulations are actually counterproductive, because they take the responsibility out of the hands of the producers and the users. In other words, if something goes wrong, neither the producer or the user can be held accountable, it'll all be shouldered by the government, in other words OUR tax money.

That's not how food and drug regulations currently work. Regulations serve to determine minimum acceptable standards for a certain product to appear on the market. Producers (and the victims, the consumers) are ultimately held responsible for issues when recalls do occur. Unless you really want to argue that the government has no reason to make sure meat producers aren't cutting corners or drug companies comply with the minimum standards for drug production.

Now, in this case, K2 being removed from the market, in my opinion, is a good thing. Not because I don't believe in legal highs, but because the drugs sprayed onto the vegetal matter are not regulated (who knows if there's, say, lead impurities). I would accept the same when cannabis and other drugs are eventually legalized: regulation to prevent adulteration.

[piks101]

Agree with Raptor, this synthetic cannabis is very suspect and potentially dangerous, as we do not no the long term effect of these chemicals. Go natural.

[justintempler]

That's not how food and drug regulations currently work. Regulations serve to determine minimum acceptable standards for a certain product to appear on the market. Producers (and the victims, the consumers) are ultimately held responsible for issues when recalls do occur. Unless you really want to argue that the government has no reason to make sure meat producers aren't cutting corners or drug companies comply with the minimum standards for drug production.

Now, in this case, K2 being removed from the market, in my opinion, is a good thing. Not because I don't believe in legal highs, but because the drugs sprayed onto the vegetal matter are not regulated (who knows if there's, say, lead impurities). I would accept the same when cannabis and other drugs are eventually legalized: regulation to prevent adulteration.

What's wrong with suing producers who make dangerous products and holding them civilly amd criminally responsible for their actions? You are shifting the responsibility of someone's actions from the person(s) doing the act to the government. When meat companies and drug companies cut corners now they are protected from lawsuits because they met government standards, no matter how dangerous their products are. Good luck trying to sue the government because they didn't set the standards high enough.

[justintempler]

On a related note:

Willie Nelson charged with pot possession in Texas