FBI thwarts terrorist bombing attempt at Portland holiday tree lighting, authorities

[snusjus]

I don't have any sympathy for the suspect. We should lock him in jail for life and let him rot there.

[texastorm]

I have often wondered if a guy says, "Man I feel like killing my wife" to an undercover police officer, and the officer hands the man a gun with blanks.... who is at fault now? The Man who is obviously emotional and needs help, or the goverment official who pushed him into becoming a criminal by supplying the means.

Dont get me wrong, I am all for catching potential terrorists... but supplying the man with the means (even fake ones) to carry out this elaborate plot? Now that seems a bit over the top. You have a mislead troubled youth who expresses interest in carrying out a terrorist plot, and you hand him a fake bomb and say "Praise Allah"? Why escalate, why not just monitor the kid and see how it goes?

I call bullshit

[raptor]

I don't have any sympathy for the suspect. We should lock him in jail for life and let him rot there.

He didn't do anything that would merit a life sentence.

I have often wondered if a guy says, "Man I feel like killing my wife" to an undercover police officer, and the officer hands the man a gun with blanks.... who is at fault now? The Man who is obviously emotional and needs help, or the goverment official who pushed him into becoming a criminal by supplying the means.

Dont get me wrong, I am all for catching potential terrorists... but supplying the man with the means (even fake ones) to carry out this elaborate plot? Now that seems a bit over the top. You have a mislead troubled youth who expresses interest in carrying out a terrorist plot, and you hand him a fake bomb and say "Praise Allah"? Why escalate, why not just monitor the kid and see how it goes?

I call bullshit

Here we go.

[Bigblue1]

You can't cheat an honest man. Well here's another clich for ya locks aren't there to protect from thieves rather to keep good men honest. I'm sorry all these cases are entrapment or setups of some sort at the very least.

[GoVegan]

raptor - he didn't do anything that doesn't merit a life sentence? His intent was to blow up as many innocent people as he could. Attempted manslaughter X 100 is definitely worthy of a life sentence in my book. Had his plan actually worked, people would have been screaming that the government doesn't do enough to protect them. I have to salute the FBI on this one as they just might have saved a lot of lives.

texastorm - "I have often wondered if a guy says, "Man I feel like killing my wife" to an undercover police officer, and the officer hands the man a gun with blanks.... who is at fault now?" Your kidding right? Do you think this happens often? If somebody tells an undercover officer that he is going to kill his wife and then he shoots at her with a gun full of blanks supplied by the officer, the intent is still there. As adults, we are responsible for our actions. Nobody made that person actually shoot the gun at somebody else whether it was loaded with blanks or not. Saying that is entrapment is almost like saying it's OK for somebody to rob a bank because they are broke and the bank had a bunch of cash in plain view.

[Bigblue1]

raptor - he didn't do anything that doesn't merit a life sentence? His intent was to blow up as many innocent people as he could. Attempted manslaughter X 100 is definitely worthy of a life sentence in my book. Had his plan actually worked, people would have been screaming that the government doesn't do enough to protect them. I have to salute the FBI on this one as they just might have saved a lot of lives.

texastorm - "I have often wondered if a guy says, "Man I feel like killing my wife" to an undercover police officer, and the officer hands the man a gun with blanks.... who is at fault now?" Your kidding right? Do you think this happens often? If somebody tells an undercover officer that he is going to kill his wife and then he shoots at her with a gun full of blanks supplied by the officer, the intent is still there. As adults, we are responsible for our actions. Nobody made that person actually shoot the gun at somebody else whether it was loaded with blanks or not. Saying that is entrapment is almost like saying it's OK for somebody to rob a bank because they are broke and the bank had a bunch of cash in plain view.

Vegan, are you not paying attention to the details? He was lured in by money(250,000) and what not to get this far. It took over a year for the fbi to nail him. It's a joke brother. I mean I feal very strongly that the government is whack as do others on this forum. Thank god we probably wouldn't fall for this trap. But some 20 year old kid,,, come on. especially when money is put into the mix. Just like the UW bomber from last christmas. Dude didn't have a passport and was escorted on to the plane by a "well dressed gentleman" give me a break. And these are the terrorists that we are giving up our rights for? c'mon it is no different than pact or K2 getting banned. these are the scapegoats they come up with to get there nanny/police state. Brother your smart enough to know this......

[raptor]

raptor - he didn't do anything that doesn't merit a life sentence? His intent was to blow up as many innocent people as he could. Attempted manslaughter X 100 is definitely worthy of a life sentence in my book. Had his plan actually worked, people would have been screaming that the government doesn't do enough to protect them. I have to salute the FBI on this one as they just might have saved a lot of lives.

The FBI helped culture this guy, then loaded the van and handed him the keys. He wasn't a terrorist, our government made him one as a scapegoat. I don't think he should be let off scott free, but you aren't factoring how much the plot was doctored to get this guy to attempt to follow through.

[raptor]

Think of it this way: the plot was under control the entire time, there was no risk to any lives. The plot was entirely fabricated, created to spread fear and anxiety towards Muslims and brown people. Look back in the past decade and there have been no successful attempts, no attacks being anywhere near fruition.

Now you embrace this irrational fear and put this pariah on the spot, telling him his life is invalidated even though he had no means to carry out the act. He is very much like an insane person mumbling about killing others, except his "friends" hand him fake devices and center attention on him as a "terrorist". Both are disturbed individuals but their lives need not be forfeit. Unfortunately, as is the case of our leaders and a lot of Americans, blood will be called for, people will demand him be locked up forever because they are blind to the intentions of the whole plot.

[Joe234]

You can't cheat an honest man. Well here's another clich for ya locks aren't there to protect from thieves rather to keep good men honest. I'm sorry all these cases are entrapment or setups of some sort at the very least.

That seems to the the general consensus. You sure wouldn't know it from
watching our local news media. They have most of the local newscast
on this.

I'm Chris Hansen of Dateline NBC.