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  • Bigblue1
    Banned Users
    • Dec 2008
    • 3923

    #16
    Yeah, they just love being able to eschew a judge and jury by simply calling someone a name. The depth that this country has fallen is downright sickening..... time for a little Brother Ali.

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    • raptor
      Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 753

      #17
      Yeah, neither Wikileaks nor Assange are villians.

      As for the Arab states aligning against Iran w.r.t. the nuclear program and such is a manifestation of USA influence. Yes, Arabs do fight with themselves and any Pan-Arabianism would never be feasible, but the only way they would single Iran out would be through outside pressure (not to mention the royal family in Saudi Arabia keeps power due to American support and its blind eye towards human rights travesties).

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      • sgreger1
        Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 9451

        #18
        WIKILEAKS ABOUT TO LEAK DOCUMENTS ON A MAJOR US BANK, EXPOSING ENRON STYLE CORRUPTION




        (Reuters) - The founder of whistle-blower website WikiLeaks plans to release tens of thousands of internal documents from a major U.S. bank early next year, Forbes Magazine reported on Monday.

        Julian Assange declined in an interview with Forbes to identify the bank, but he said that he expected that the disclosures, which follow his group's release of U.S. military and diplomatic documents, would lead to investigations.

        "We have one related to a bank coming up, that's a megaleak. It's not as big a scale as the Iraq material, but it's either tens or hundreds of thousands of documents depending on how you define it," Assange said in the interview posted on the Forbes website.

        He declined to identify the bank, describing it only as a major U.S. bank that is still in existence.

        Asked what he wanted to be the result of the disclosure, he replied: "I'm not sure. It will give a true and representative insight into how banks behave at the executive level in a way that will stimulate investigations and reforms, I presume."

        He compared this release to emails that were unveiled as a result of the collapse of disgraced energy company Enron Corp.

        "This will be like that. Yes, there will be some flagrant violations, unethical practices that will be revealed, but it will also be all the supporting decision-making structures and the internal executive ethos ... and that's tremendously valuable," Assange said.

        "You could call it the ecosystem of corruption. But it's also all the regular decision making that turns a blind eye to and supports unethical practices: the oversight that's not done, the priorities of executives, how they think they're fulfilling their own self-interest," he said.

        Assange also told the magazine that his group has material on many businesses and governments, including in Russia, and that it has some documents on pharmaceutical companies, which he did not identify.

        More than 250,000 cables were obtained by the whistle-blower website and given to the New York Times and other media groups, which published stories on Sunday exposing the inner workings of U.S. diplomacy, including candid and embarrassing assessments of world leaders.

        Before Sunday, WikiLeaks had made public nearly 500,000 classified U.S. files on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.







        I think Wikileaks should definately turn it's attention to corporate espionage, particularly banks or big players like AIG. I know a lot of you see Assange as a traitor, but what he's doing is good, it's shaking things up, making people aware tothe fact that the days of they all deciding things behind closed doors are over. Information must flow free, and wikileaks is a catalyst to that goal, and therefore I support them.

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        • lxskllr
          Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 13435

          #19
          Originally posted by sgreger1 View Post
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          I think Wikileaks should definately turn it's attention to corporate espionage, particularly banks or big players like AIG. I know a lot of you see Assange as a traitor, but what he's doing is good, it's shaking things up, making people aware tothe fact that the days of they all deciding things behind closed doors are over. Information must flow free, and wikileaks is a catalyst to that goal, and therefore I support them.
          I doubt they signed any agreement to keep information confidential. If people don't want their dirty laundry on wikileaks, they should start taking security seriously. I like these guys, and they're fast becoming my new heroes :^)

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          • sgreger1
            Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 9451

            #20
            Originally posted by lxskllr View Post
            I doubt they signed any agreement to keep information confidential. If people don't want their dirty laundry on wikileaks, they should start taking security seriously. I like these guys, and they're fast becoming my new heroes :^)

            Yah, none of the stuff he's released was top secret or anything, most of it was just "confidential" communications etc and those aren't too hard to get ahold of, but still I like that he's airing all of this dirty laundry and that the media is picking up the story. I think wikileaks is a bunch of liberal hippies who want to paint our troops as killers and generally undermine the united states, but their methods are perfect, they just release everyone's dirty laundry out onto the internet for all to see. I love it.



            No doubt Assange will end up killed by someone, he has LOTS more shit to dump, and has info on foriegn countries and corporations too. Someone's going to have to stop him. I imagine he'll probably end up in gitmo.

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            • raptor
              Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 753

              #21
              Originally posted by lxskllr View Post
              If people don't want their dirty laundry on wikileaks, they should start taking security seriously.
              No dirty laundry, no issues. Higher security isn't the answer. We want clean diplomacy, clean business practices.

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              • justintempler
                Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 3090

                #22
                It's going to be interesting for awhile. Wikileaks is releasing information in chunks instead of all at once.

                Denial of Service Attacks "WikiLeaks said the malicious traffic was coming in at 10 gigabits per second on Tuesday..." WikiLeaks says it was under powerful cyberattack
                I think Palin is funny. Maybe she can battle Wikileaks from her Twitter account ? Sarah Palin blasts Obama administration for WikiLeaks 'fiasco'

                I was doing some car insurance shopping, I got a quote from 21st Century, they were almost twice what I'm paying now, then I come to find out AIG is running 21st century now... bastards. I wouldn't give them a dime of money even if they were cheaper.

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                • lxskllr
                  Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 13435

                  #23
                  Originally posted by raptor View Post
                  No dirty laundry, no issues. Higher security isn't the answer. We want clean diplomacy, clean business practices.
                  That's a tall order you're asking for there. When has any government acted honorably in the history of humans? Other countries bitching about this can stuff it. they have the exact same files, and the only difference is they aren't on wikileaks. Our country bitching about it can stuff it too. If they don't want it on wikileaks, fix the security.

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                  • tom502
                    Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 8985

                    #24
                    I think the US government is one of the most corrupt and evil in world history, and I am sure the powers that be want wikileaks silenced, and will label them as terrorists to try and shut them down. But I think they are heroes to the people, who is being able to see the extent of the evil government.

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                    • sgreger1
                      Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 9451

                      #25
                      Originally posted by justintempler View Post
                      It's going to be interesting for awhile. Wikileaks is releasing information in chunks instead of all at once.

                      Denial of Service Attacks "WikiLeaks said the malicious traffic was coming in at 10 gigabits per second on Tuesday..." WikiLeaks says it was under powerful cyberattack
                      I think Palin is funny. Maybe she can battle Wikileaks from her Twitter account ? Sarah Palin blasts Obama administration for WikiLeaks 'fiasco'

                      I was doing some car insurance shopping, I got a quote from 21st Century, they were almost twice what I'm paying now, then I come to find out AIG is running 21st century now... bastards. I wouldn't give them a dime of money even if they were cheaper.


                      So Sarah Palin thinks Julian Assange should be “hunted down with the same urgency we pursue al Qaeda and Taliban leaders.” I guess that means he's safe for a decade at least...

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                      • lxskllr
                        Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 13435

                        #26
                        LoL greger :^D

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                        • devilock76
                          Member
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 1737

                          #27
                          Originally posted by tom502 View Post
                          I think the US government is one of the most corrupt and evil in world history, and I am sure the powers that be want wikileaks silenced, and will label them as terrorists to try and shut them down. But I think they are heroes to the people, who is being able to see the extent of the evil government.
                          Most evil, as in surpassing the Nazi's, Oh wait I forgot you are their biggest fan.

                          Seriously?!?

                          Ken

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                          • sgreger1
                            Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 9451

                            #28
                            Originally posted by devilock76 View Post
                            Most evil, as in surpassing the Nazi's, Oh wait I forgot you are their biggest fan.

                            Seriously?!?

                            Ken




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                            • WickedKitchen
                              Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 2528

                              #29
                              I think this Wikileaks stuff is pretty good. I haven't read all of it 'cos it makes me think that the world is going to end somehow. I can take it in doses.

                              On the one hand it will create much unrest, but that might not be a bad thing. In the end, the world might be a better place with a sort of watchdog in place, but I don't think that getting there will be very pleasant.

                              I agree w/ Raptor about not being dicks in the first place, but people will be people and to some degree that will never, ever be completely eliminated.

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                              • Roo
                                Member
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 3446

                                #30
                                Originally posted by raptor View Post
                                Yeah, neither Wikileaks nor Assange are villians.

                                As for the Arab states aligning against Iran w.r.t. the nuclear program and such is a manifestation of USA influence. Yes, Arabs do fight with themselves and any Pan-Arabianism would never be feasible, but the only way they would single Iran out would be through outside pressure (not to mention the royal family in Saudi Arabia keeps power due to American support and its blind eye towards human rights travesties).
                                Gotta step in here for truth's sake and point out that modern day Iran is not Arab at all, they are Persians, and understanding this divide will go a long way toward understanding the region. The divide runs very, very deep (Persians, for one, are in vast majority Shia Muslims while the Arabs are Sunni). Iran doesn't give much of a shit about the Arab world, and vice versa. They support Hezbollah because that organization supports Shia interests. As far as the Sunnis go (including all of Saudi Arabia), they hate the Persians' guts and the feeling is mutual.

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