POLL: Muslims, you crazy!

[Roo]

Al Quaida recruiting in Afghanistan is almost identical in nature to the bloods or the crypts recruiting in south central Los Angeles.

Are you sure you're from California? Or are you armless and using voice-control software to post? lol. If so, teach your software how to spell "Al-Qaeda" already. Bloods and "Crypts" you can leave alone, 'cuz that's just plain funny.

[justintempler]

A majority of Muslims around the world welcome a significant role for Islam in their countries' political life, according to a new poll from the Pew Research Center

Very misleading...... They only asked Muslims and they only polled 7 countries.

Muslim Publics Divided on Hamas and Hezbollah


I could pick 7 US states.. survey 8,000 Christians and come up with the following headline.
A majority of Christians around the United States welcome a significant role for Christianity in their countries' political life, according to a new poll from the Pew Research Center

[RobsanX]

Most people just want to belong to some kind of group. Religion fits that bill perfectly. It's the opiate of the masses...

[nachowayne]

A. Yes
B. No
C. Portion
D. Los
E. None of the above
F. Dip
G. You are Crazy
H. Waiting for Nazi Martians (or is it Martian Nazi's) to come rescue me from the insanity of this hollow earth!

All of the above?

[sgreger1]

Are you sure you're from California? Or are you armless and using voice-control software to post? lol. If so, teach your software how to spell "Al-Qaeda" already. Bloods and "Crypts" you can leave alone, 'cuz that's just plain funny.

LOL. I think we've gotten past the fact that I can't spell, and that anything I type should be questioned and/or ignored entirely at all times.

[sgreger1]

I could pick 7 US states.. survey 8,000 Christians and come up with the following headline.
A majority of Christians around the United States welcome a significant role for Christianity in their countries' political life, according to a new poll from the Pew Research Center

Yes, but would you be wrong? I;m pretty confident that I could conduct a scientific poll and come to the conclusion that at least 50% of them believe Christianity should play a role in government. In fact if I just polled right-wingers I bet I could get a majority who would say that this is a christian nation and should be governed as such.

[sgreger1]

Most people just want to belong to some kind of group. Religion fits that bill perfectly. It's the opiate of the masses...

Good book on this phenomena: "The True believer". Mass movements, regardless of what kind of movement we are talking about, all recruit the same kind of people. Certain types of people are just drawn to mass movements, be they religious, political, etc. If we got rid of religion, these people would just be attracted to a different movement, because they are searching to be part of the hive-mind.

[NonServiam]

This is probably old news, and I'm sure has already came up at some point here at Snuson as I think it went viral sometime ago, but I just saw this the other day, and unless it was staged, it's almost surreal at the very end. This occurred at the University of San Diego I think, involving a member of the Muslim Student Association. Granted, she does not speak for all Muslims (I hope).

[tom502]

Islam is not an Eastern religion(it's a psuedo-fanaticalpoliticodeathcultreligion), but it comes from the background of Judaism and Christianity, and even Baha'i evolved from it. I guess it'd be called a Western religion, though I would call Mormonism and Scientology a western religion. Eastern religions are Hinduism, Buddhism, Taosim, Sikhism. The main difference, is believers in western religion, have blind faith, and believe there way is the only way, and everyone else is doomed(though Judaism doesn't seem like that). Eastern religions though, are based on philosophy, and acknowledge many paths that advance the spiritual self. Read the Tao Te Ching, the Bhagavad Gita, the Dhammapada, the Jap-ji. A big difference, western religion is based on believe or burn, eastern religions are based on realization.

[Roo]

A big difference, western religion is based on believe or burn, eastern religions are based on realization.

The majority of Mahayana and Theraveda Buddhist texts have fantastical descriptions of "hell", along with all of the demons and ghosts and nasties one is to encounter should they shun the particular dogma that its particular author had the reader believe was coming directly from the mouth of the Tathagata. Sound familiar? Only difference is that these levels of hell are not created by the Almighty, nor are they eternal, but you bet your ass that audiences all over the Far East and the Steppe were quite literally scared into believing that really bad things would happen if they didn't subscribe to the popular brand of buddhist theory at the time and place.

[Bigblue1]

YES! Roo responds to tom's budhist sensibilities. OMG can't wait for the reply.....

[devilock76]

The death penalty "reduces" the murder rate, if that's what you mean.

Not to hijack this to another (although tangential) topic. But most of the statistics I have found that is not the case.

Ken

[sgreger1]

Not to hijack this to another (although tangential) topic. But most of the statistics I have found that is not the case.

Ken

Most criminals are repeat offenders, and if left to their own will they would usually commit the crimes again (and usually have multiple times if theyre on death row). To get the death penalty you have to REALLY mess up, especially in my state.

By killing a murderer or rapist, you have now prevented future murder and rape from happening at this criminal's hands.

The problem is when you lock them up, they just end up getting out early. Life sentences become 20 year sentences, 20 yr ones become 10 etc. And why spend $40,000 a year per person to keep them in our already over crowded prisons? Should execute them right after they are sentenced in court.


It is both inhumane & expensive to just keep them in prison forever. Much better to put them down than to pit them against other criminals in a cage for 30 years.

[tom502]

The Buddha said there are 24,000 paths. The Veda states all paths lead to the one. The "hells" are one's own creations from their evil karmas, not a punishment of some external God you didn't suck up to.

[raptor]

It is both inhumane & expensive to just keep them in prison forever. Much better to put them down than to pit them against other criminals in a cage for 30 years.

Wow, it's more inhumane to imprison someone than murder them (and yes it's murder: official death certificates for the executed lists 'homicide')?

As for 'really messing up', just look at Texas. I don't have the statistics but because it's easy to get on Texas' death row, and sometimes you don't even need to kill someone.

I have no problem with murderers getting off than innocents being murdered for crimes they don't commit.