Pharmaceutical Industry .. some thoughts ....

[sgreger1]

I'd also like to point out that cigarettes have a 90% addiction rate, and are ranked as the most addictive substance. Marijuana has an addiction rating below caffein.


You know what, i'm done. I'm talking to myself at this point. If you think marijuana is more addictive than cigarettes, or that the withdrawals are worse, or that it is not a safe alternative to pills, than I don't know what else to say. I'm tired of this thread, and am off to go home and smoke some right.****ing.now.

The original point was that there are alternatives to taking a pill, and they do work, and that marijuana is one of those natural alternatives.



If you are not smoking because you fear the health risks, than you would be a hypocrite to not cut Fat/Sugar/Oil from your diet as well.

[Condor]

Legalized dope dealing supported by the government and big business. That's what I think of it.

[precious007]

Wow this turned out to be a a serious dissccusion :-)

Here's the thing sgrerer1 .... marijuana is psychologically addictive and THC in in has been proven to affect quite a few organs in the body. There's tons of documentaries on this and probably millions of articles written..... why go on claiming it's not harmful when it makes you a total junkie in the first place... I've smoked it dozens of times I know what I'm talking about ...

When I smoke MJ/cannabis I am literally not caring for anything ... even my house is a complete mess... hardly can concentrate on the important things... and so on ...

Quoting what snusgetter has said above...

Long-term marijuana abusers trying to quit report withdrawal symptoms including: irritability, sleeplessness, decreased appetite, anxiety, and drug craving, all of which can make it difficult to remain abstinent. These symptoms begin within about 1 day following abstinence, peak at 2-3 days, and subside within 1 or 2 weeks following drug cessation.

And this is true in most cases ... problems sleeping and anxiety is a major issue when going cold-turkey from cannabis/mj.

Moreover I've had friends that were hooked on mj ... they smoked it every single day..... and one of them went to jail ... god know what he's been up to ... anyway ... he experience severe withdrawal symptoms in the first two weeks of being in jail ..

Another friends of mine ... left of to Japan to live there ... and since mj was like $20 a joint she stopped smoking cold turkey and turned to find out she's panicking every single day...

And I know quite a few other cases.... ;-)

I'm a withdrawal veteran ... I've told you.... from over 30 different type of drugs/smoking and so on .... I don't think cannabis could get me that much of a withdrawal.... anyway... I haven't felt hooked on it or any legal buds .... By the way the there's people that are hooked on legal buds as well .... psychologically .... they're dependent...

[Joe234]

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Yes they suck!

Xanax works for awhile and then you are ****ed.

[piks101]

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Yes they suck!

Xanax works for awhile and then you are ****ed.

Never used Xanax but I have a good buddy who said it is no longer effective but he is addicted hook, line and sinker.

[Joe234]

Never used Xanax but I have a good buddy who said it is no longer effective but he is addicted hook, line and sinker.

It's a benzodiazapine like Vaium. One can seizure up to one month
after stopping them, if taking a large dose over time, when they are
stopped abruptly without tapering down.

[precious007]

I would warn anyone to avoid taking xanax,
In fact any type of benzodiazepine derivative ... anything that creates addiction.

It's ok to snus once in a while or drink a glass of wine ... but xanax is a beast

[sgreger1]

Wow this turned out to be a a serious dissccusion :-)

Here's the thing sgrerer1 .... marijuana is psychologically addictive and THC in in has been proven to affect quite a few organs in the body. There's tons of documentaries on this and probably millions of articles written..... why go on claiming it's not harmful when it makes you a total junkie in the first place... I've smoked it dozens of times I know what I'm talking about ...

When I smoke MJ/cannabis I am literally not caring for anything ... even my house is a complete mess... hardly can concentrate on the important things... and so on ...

Quoting what snusgetter has said above...



And this is true in most cases ... problems sleeping and anxiety is a major issue when going cold-turkey from cannabis/mj.

Moreover I've had friends that were hooked on mj ... they smoked it every single day..... and one of them went to jail ... god know what he's been up to ... anyway ... he experience severe withdrawal symptoms in the first two weeks of being in jail ..

Another friends of mine ... left of to Japan to live there ... and since mj was like $20 a joint she stopped smoking cold turkey and turned to find out she's panicking every single day...

And I know quite a few other cases.... ;-)

I'm a withdrawal veteran ... I've told you.... from over 30 different type of drugs/smoking and so on .... I don't think cannabis could get me that much of a withdrawal.... anyway... I haven't felt hooked on it or any legal buds .... By the way the there's people that are hooked on legal buds as well .... psychologically .... they're dependent...

Well, in my opinion personal testemony counts for more than a study done by people who are just observing others, so if that's what you have to report than I can't say it's not true.

I am being a little insensitive in even having this discussion, as we have one member here who actually is having some trouble in this same dept and I don't mean to make their struggle seem like it's made up. I guess it just depends on the person. Me and my friends and alll of the thousands of smokers I have chilled with in my day have never once even uttered a mention of any of these issues, and lots of studies say they don't exist, but if people claim it's happening than I guess it's happening.

If you are having crazy withdrawls off smoking pot, I would recommend you never try any other drugs (legal or not), because your probably going to die. I withdraw harder off drinking a cup of cofee lol.

[precious007]

If you are having crazy withdrawls off smoking pot, I would recommend you never try any other drugs (legal or not), because your probably going to die. I withdraw harder off drinking a cup of cofee lol.

Never had withdrawal from pot because I've never been hooked on it..

[sgreger1]

Never had withdrawal from pot because I've never been hooked on it..

Good, I can add you to my list of people I know who have never been "hooked" or had "withdrawls" from marijuana. What is 100% +1?

[precious007]

Good, I can add you to my list of people I know who have never been "hooked" or had "withdrawls" from marijuana. What is 100% +1?

That's probably because I only smoked on weekends... and never daily

[precious007]

I didn't have the link .. but here it is ...

The truth about the psychiatric drugs and the evil marketing techniques the drug companies practice ...

http://stagevu.com/video/hgfojmqvxlwo ... there is so much truth in this video... the addiction to these drugs (xanax,valium,zoloft and so on....) is far more dangerous than the condition itself....

By the way Zoloft completely makes you a zombi, you don't even have an erection when taking it... or the desire to have sex... it's serious..