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  • snusgetter
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    • May 2010
    • 10903

    FDA: "Quit or die"

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    Want to Quit Smoking? FDA regulations make it harder to do
    By Jeff Stier
    12/30/2010

    It's time to think about New Year's resolutions. Quitting smoking, appropriately, is at the top of many lists.

    Now, 2010 was the first full year that the Food and Drug Administration, or FDA, regulated tobacco, but with its new powers, did it do anything to make it easier for smokers to quit when we ring in the New Year?

    The answer is not only a resounding "no," it is worse: The government, as well as many government-funded anti-smoking groups, is making it harder for smokers to give up the deadly habit.

    The FDA and groups such as the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids oppose the use of "tobacco harm reduction," which is the use of less harmful products than cigarettes to help people quit smoking.

    Late last year, the FDA warned about the safety of electronic or E-cigarettes and began a campaign to keep them away from smokers. E-cigarettes not only supply "clean" nicotine, but also look like cigarettes -- many even have an LED light at the tip. These products, which contain no actual tobacco, are noncombustible. While nicotine is addictive, it isn't particularly harmful. It is like the caffeine in soda: It makes you want to drink more, but it isn't what packs on the pounds -- the calories from the sugar.

    E-cigarettes are being used by many smokers to quit smoking real cigarettes. But the FDA, which found tiny levels of carcinogens in some E-cigarettes, is doing everything it can to keep smokers from getting their hands on this far less dangerous product.

    The FDA's strategy entails calling for E-cigarettes to go through expensive testing that medicines and drug devices have to endure, rather than have them regulated more loosely, ironically, as are their more dangerous cousin, cigarettes.

    While we'd certainly benefit from a review of their safety, as well as their efficacy as cessation devices, you don't need to be a heart surgeon to know they aren't as dangerous as the real thing. Just this month, the FDA sought to overturn a court decision that denied it the right to confiscate E-cigarettes shipped from overseas.

    Meanwhile, some states and municipalities seek to ban the use of E-cigarettes everywhere that smoking is already prohibited.

    Similarly, the FDA and activist groups oppose the use of snus, or smokeless tobacco, as a means of harm reduction.

    Manufacturers describe snus as "spit-free" pouches of smokeless tobacco. Studies from Sweden show that snus has been used effectively to help smokers quit smoking cigarettes. Again, snus isn't a "safe" product, but it is up to 99 times safer than cigarettes. But so-called "health groups" are making it a priority to stop smokers from using snus here. And the FDA and other agencies are leading the charge in the fight against tobacco harm reduction.

    This "quit or die" approach is hard to defend. Even with nicotine replacement therapy such as gum or the patch, fewer than 15 percent of people trying to quit manage to remain off cigarettes for as long as six months.

    The best argument puritanical activists and government regulators make is that tobacco companies aren't trying to get people to switch; rather, they are trying to keep smokers addicted by training them to use smokeless tobacco in areas where smoking isn't allowed.

    But this so-called "dual use" argument is dubious. The reason companies haven't been more persuasively encouraging smokers to switch to smokeless is because it would be against the new tobacco control law. Tobacco companies are forbidden from telling consumers a simple, critical, and undeniable fact: Smokeless tobacco is not as harmful as cigarette smoking.

    But now, at least one tobacco company is taking the "switch" argument directly to smokers who want to quit smoking. In (what shouldn't actually be) provocative new ads, Reynolds America's "Smoke-Free Resolution" campaign, the company is telling smokers they can quit smoking by using snus. The ads ignore the best argument to switch, which is that the product is less likely to kill you. And for that, we have the government and the "health" activists to blame.

    The best thing for smokers to do is to quit tobacco completely. But the multitudes who have tried and failed should not despair. They should tell the nanny-staters to "butt out" so they can realistically resolve to quit smoking, this time with the help of less harmful approaches such as E-cigarettes and snus.

    The author is a senior fellow at the National Center for Public Policy Research and leads its risk analysis division.



    A voice of reason in a forest of bureaucratic and nanny-state noise.
    Time to Pump Up The Volume. A must-read for all legislators.
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  • raptor
    Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 753

    #2
    This isn't a "nanny state" issue. It's lobby groups exerting their authority through a legal bribery system which results in ridiculous rulings or laws. Unless one really thinks the FDA regulates too much, in that case might as well roll back a hundred years of mandatory food standards.

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    • raptor
      Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 753

      #3
      I've read enough people on various tobacco forums complaining about FDA as some sort of "nanny state" entity who seriously believe it shouldn't exist. For them it is a black and white issue.

      Hell, a lot of the reactionary complaints stem from a black and white interpretation of everything.

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      • tom502
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        • Feb 2009
        • 8985

        #4
        It's all about money and power.

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        • ratcheer
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          • Jul 2010
          • 621

          #5
          Originally posted by tom502 View Post
          It's all about money and power.
          Bingo!

          Tim

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          • justintempler
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            • Nov 2008
            • 3090

            #6
            Originally posted by raptor View Post
            I've read enough people on various tobacco forums complaining about FDA as some sort of "nanny state" entity who seriously believe it shouldn't exist. For them it is a black and white issue.

            Hell, a lot of the reactionary complaints stem from a black and white interpretation of everything.
            For me it is a black and white issue. When I grew up we had something called the Good Housekeeping Seal, and Consumer Reports. There are alternatives to the FDA.

            The problem with the FDA is, it is not voluntary. If I decide I want to risk my health by importing unapproved drugs from a foreign country, people with guns and badges can show up at my door force their way in to my house and take me to jail against my will.

            Companies like RJ Reynolds , General Mills and Pfizer love the FDA. Once they get FDA approval, their competition is prohibited from entering the market. Once you buy your way into the market you have a captive audience.

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            • BradenL
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              • Dec 2010
              • 187

              #7
              The FDA is an excellent institin for the he control of food products and controlled substances. The FDA is a necessary institution in the US market economy which protects bio-ops' and protects consumers from harmful food substances. The thing that makes me wonder is that we have the ATF as well as the FDA both 'protecting' consumers against such products as e-cigs and snus. The surprising duality of the situation is that the FDA controls nicotine products but the ATF controls tobacco. Just my opinion, but does anyone else think that is stupid?

              On a side note, only in America can Anti-tobacco nazis actually give weight to American cigarette companies through their efforts. By trying to put a blanket ban on nicotine, they are squelching the e-cig market which just plays right into the favor of the cigarrette companies. If only the majority of people were rational and were actually able to see that snus and e-cigs could actually save millions of lives. But instead we live under a state that does not allow the citizens the ability to choose products that are of reduced harm instead of those that tobacco companies gain high profits from...

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              • shikitohno
                Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 1156

                #8
                Originally posted by raptor View Post
                I've read enough people on various tobacco forums complaining about FDA as some sort of "nanny state" entity who seriously believe it shouldn't exist. For them it is a black and white issue.

                Hell, a lot of the reactionary complaints stem from a black and white interpretation of everything.
                A lot of tobacco users are reactionaries, raptor. 'Tis part of the reason I've stopped chilling here, I can't handle them.

                Originally posted by BradenL View Post
                The FDA is an excellent institin for the he control of food products and controlled substances. The FDA is a necessary institution in the US market economy which protects bio-ops' and protects consumers from harmful food substances. The thing that makes me wonder is that we have the ATF as well as the FDA both 'protecting' consumers against such products as e-cigs and snus. The surprising duality of the situation is that the FDA controls nicotine products but the ATF controls tobacco. Just my opinion, but does anyone else think that is stupid?

                On a side note, only in America can Anti-tobacco nazis actually give weight to American cigarette companies through their efforts. By trying to put a blanket ban on nicotine, they are squelching the e-cig market which just plays right into the favor of the cigarrette companies. If only the majority of people were rational and were actually able to see that snus and e-cigs could actually save millions of lives. But instead we live under a state that does not allow the citizens the ability to choose products that are of reduced harm instead of those that tobacco companies gain high profits from...
                It's taxes, not profits that drive this. The major tobacco companies make a pretty penny off what they sell, but don't fool yourself. Most of the cost associated with tobacco products is taxes. The US government doesn't want to lose that revenue, ergo RJR and Philipp Morris have such obscene power over the actions of government institutions.

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                • SmokedEuro
                  Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 280

                  #9
                  Originally posted by tom502 View Post
                  It's all about money and power.
                  Exactly... couldn't have said it better myself

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                  • precious007
                    Banned Users
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 5885

                    #10
                    The game's endless

                    The money has always been the main interest ... no one really cares about the people (probably some non-profit) organizations still do ...
                    The main advantage is that we all have the right to choose :-)

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                    • stubby2
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                      • Jun 2009
                      • 436

                      #11
                      Originally posted by precious007 View Post
                      The game's endless

                      The money has always been the main interest ... no one really cares about the people (probably some non-profit) organizations still do ... )
                      The non-profits are among the worst of them. ACS, AHA, ALA etc are taking in lots of money from pharmaceutical companies. These are the same companies that make nicotine gum, patches, Chantix and all the other worthless goodies that tobacco control pushes on the public. Smokeless tobacco and e-cigs are the main competition for NRT products. The want nothing less then for snus and e-cigs to go away. The non-profit public health advocates are basically front groups for the big pharmaceutical companies.

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                      • texasmade
                        Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 4159

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BradenL View Post
                        The FDA is an excellent institin for the he control of food products and controlled substances. The FDA is a necessary institution in the US market economy which protects bio-ops' and protects consumers from harmful food substances.

                        He who controls the food controls the people.

                        harmful food substances? Apsartame, unneeded flouride, pills that get pushed through and end up doing more harm than good and don't get pulled for years? Yes the FDA has our best interest at heart. It's an institution and institutions only care about a few things. People and their health is most definitely on that list.

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                        • raptor
                          Member
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 753

                          #13
                          Originally posted by texasmade View Post
                          He who controls the food controls the people.

                          harmful food substances? Apsartame, unneeded flouride, pills that get pushed through and end up doing more harm than good and don't get pulled for years? Yes the FDA has our best interest at heart. It's an institution and institutions only care about a few things. People and their health is most definitely on that list.
                          Actually, yes they do care. You need to look at the number of drugs which don't pass phase 3 trials compared to those that do pass and are then recalled.

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                          • Darwin
                            Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 1372

                            #14
                            Certainly the FDA has done a lot of good and necessary things over the years but just like any other bureaucracy they can at times be sorely tempted by regulatory overreach. In the case of tobacco regulators have appeared to deem that extremism in the pursuit of the public health is no vice. Unlike the multitude of approved drugs, of which all have side effects that are, at least initially, regarded as less critical than the need for the drug, tobacco has an emotional component and an army of anti-activists that has resulted in the agency's loss of perspective regarding nicotine. The emotional component means that smoking is considered so vile that any approval of a safer method of delivering nicotine cannot be tolerated lest the agency be accused of being "soft" on tobacco issues by egregiously perspective-less anti-tobacco activists. Thus they are forced to ignore their own data, and that of many other reputable sources, in requiring laughably inaccurate labeling of smokeless products which at their worst are all far safer than smoking.

                            This amounts to a blatant shirking of the agency's scientific duties of which they must be aware yet persist in these fictive warning requirements because to do otherwise would be seen as kowtowing to commercial tobacco interests and would perforce inflame the legions of noisy and litigious anti-tobacco zealots. Big Tobacco may seek to reinforce and exploit these shirked duties when it suits their purposes but they are not the root cause. The overarching, limitless, take-no-prisoners war on smoking is the cause, root branch and tree, and the hostilities will neither end nor evolve into a truce anytime soon.

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                            • african redbush
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                              • May 2009
                              • 80

                              #15
                              Originally posted by raptor View Post
                              Actually, yes they do care. You need to look at the number of drugs which don't pass phase 3 trials compared to those that do pass and are then recalled.
                              no, they dont care. they allow major corps to get away with using GMOs. i love my chicken pumped full of steroids and growth hormones.

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