A solar storm

[truthwolf1]

I am pretty sure the government has a population control scenario for something like this. It might not be in active drills but I have no doubt that they have a back plan for something like this to continue leadership.

That is about all that they will have.

The rest of the population will be eating eachother like in the movie the ROAD!

[sgreger1]

I am pretty sure the government has a population control scenario for something like this. It might not be in active drills but I have no doubt that they have a back plan for something like this to continue leadership.

That is about all that they will have.

The rest of the population will be eating eachother like in the movie the ROAD!

They have done live drills on scenarios like this. This is where the FEMA camp conspiracies comes from. I forget if it was operation northwoods or a different one, but the gov has (on several occassions), trained for the possibility of civil unrest where the gov may be required to round of the masses into facilities, likely for holding until things cool down. At least that's what the drills were about, "Sudden influx of immegration or civil unrest". The exercise also prepares us for the chance that mexico will have major civil unrest and we may experience mass immegration with nowhere to put them.

[truthwolf1]

Sgreger, I was thinking more on the scale of a huge power outage where everything is knocked out like the military tranports/surveillance and communications.

It would then be foot soldiers and horse's guarding anything government and then moving to take all the farms for food.

They would probably just kill everyone on their way.

[sgreger1]

Sgreger, I was thinking more on the scale of a huge power outage where everything is knocked out like the military tranports/surveillance and communications.

It would then be foot soldiers and horse's guarding anything government and then moving to take all the farms for food.

They would probably just kill everyone on their way.

No, realistically I don't think the scenario will be as bad as some are assuming. My unit played a part in the cleanup after Katrina, so we had some basic level instruction into what the process is. If something crazy happened, the first thing the military would do is have every private on both sides of the mississippi out standing infront of something to guard it. Once everything is secured, they would then start thinking about securing the civilian areas. This would all take a long time and be sloppy, but eventually they would mobilize to the streets. They wouldn't go farm to farm taking food though. If food were an issue, than the soldiers would be the first to eat. If farms were still in production, than the government would mandate that a certain amount of food be given to the "security" effort", which means feeding soldiers, and I doubt they would have to take it with force.

They wouldn't just go shut down every farm though. You have to remember that US/European soldiers are not from somewhere like Venezuela, it would be hard to convicnce them to round up and shoot everyone, nor would doing so benefit the government in any way.

[tom502]

As we approach 2012, then end of the 62 million year cycle, will destroy mankind, as a mass extinction. It's happened many times before, and is set to again.

[sgreger1]

As we approach 2012, then end of the 62 million year cycle, will destroy mankind, as a mass extinction. It's happened many times before, and is set to again.

Why are the annunaki not part of a similar cycle then? Why are they not destroyed? Why are they environmentalists? If they have cool tech that stops us from damaging the planet, than all they would have to do is give it to us and that will solve the problem. Saying "Hey, you are polluting too much. We have the tech to fix that, but instead we will just exterminate you as part of a 62 million yea rlong cycle that someone madeup a while ago. Talk about honoring old traditions!

[visiON]

As we approach 2012, then end of the 62 million year cycle, will destroy mankind, as a mass extinction. It's happened many times before, and is set to again.

Like the Mayan's say, when a world ends another world begins.

[Snuts]

It's because of events like this that I droped the electronic cigarettes and turned to snus.

[truthwolf1]

I always thought that man would do it to himself and not the other way around.

[Rattlesnake]

I'm going to take all my snus and snuff with me at the end. I have it all in my Toque mini bullet, and I always keep it in my pocket! It is clear so the annunaki can't see it.

[WickedKitchen]

Well, what would all of you do? Let's say the power went out and it wasn't going to come back online for the masses for let's say one year. That's cities, towns and the like. No power. No water purification, no sewage, no transportation. No banks, no money other than the cash in your wallet.

There's a natural stream on my property but I think I'd opt for a well. I've dug them and though it's a major pain in the ass, if you're thirsty enough you'll dig. I could get a couple of them on my property but I'm not situated well for defense. I live on a corner. I think it would be in my best interest to move my family in with my brother. Safety in numbers, that and he and his family aren't people that I would kill to eat...and he's got a well. Sorry, Roo...I am not sure I'd choose death over cannibalism. It certainly would be a last resort though. If it happened today I have no firearms so that would be a problem. I am currently working on a food pack complete with water purification tabs. I've been working on it for a year or so but not diligently enough. My goal is to have enough calories to sustain 4 people for one year with enough energy left to hunt. Moving this mass of food would be arduous but doable given the right plan. Right now I could probably go three months although it would be anything but tasty. The idea is that within a year I'd be able to set up a system for food. Growing it in New England would only work part of the year and then there's still the issue of protecting it. If it got to that point I'm sure lethal force would be needed...I just hope I'd be on the correct end of that administration.

I'd then hit up a Lowes or Home Depot. Barricade the entire first floor of the base. There would be one way in and one way out (a second way out would be good but only one way in). Plenty of trees out there for heat and cooking. I'd also like to have a horse, but securing it would be one thing...mine would probably be dead within a year 'cos I don't know how to take care of one so no horse. Lots of traps. Deadfalls work if you have enough of them but getting them before others do would be the challenge. I think about this scenario often when I'm on the treadmill at the gym...well, depending on whats on the treadmill in front of me.

Do you think you could last a year and keep your family alive? Seriously. Could you? I think I've got about a 80% chance of succeeding. There would be government food distribution centers but I'd likely want to be away from those populated areas. Would you stay in a city? Is the country a more desirable location?

[sgreger1]

Well, what would all of you do? Let's say the power went out and it wasn't going to come back online for the masses for let's say one year. That's cities, towns and the like. No power. No water purification, no sewage, no transportation. No banks, no money other than the cash in your wallet.

There's a natural stream on my property but I think I'd opt for a well. I've dug them and though it's a major pain in the ass, if you're thirsty enough you'll dig. I could get a couple of them on my property but I'm not situated well for defense. I live on a corner. I think it would be in my best interest to move my family in with my brother. Safety in numbers, that and he and his family aren't people that I would kill to eat...and he's got a well. Sorry, Roo...I am not sure I'd choose death over cannibalism. It certainly would be a last resort though. If it happened today I have no firearms so that would be a problem. I am currently working on a food pack complete with water purification tabs. I've been working on it for a year or so but not diligently enough. My goal is to have enough calories to sustain 4 people for one year with enough energy left to hunt. Moving this mass of food would be arduous but doable given the right plan. Right now I could probably go three months although it would be anything but tasty. The idea is that within a year I'd be able to set up a system for food. Growing it in New England would only work part of the year and then there's still the issue of protecting it. If it got to that point I'm sure lethal force would be needed...I just hope I'd be on the correct end of that administration.

I'd then hit up a Lowes or Home Depot. Barricade the entire first floor of the base. There would be one way in and one way out (a second way out would be good but only one way in). Plenty of trees out there for heat and cooking. I'd also like to have a horse, but securing it would be one thing...mine would probably be dead within a year 'cos I don't know how to take care of one so no horse. Lots of traps. Deadfalls work if you have enough of them but getting them before others do would be the challenge. I think about this scenario often when I'm on the treadmill at the gym...well, depending on whats on the treadmill in front of me.

Do you think you could last a year and keep your family alive? Seriously. Could you? I think I've got about a 80% chance of succeeding. There would be government food distribution centers but I'd likely want to be away from those populated areas. Would you stay in a city? Is the country a more desirable location?

My dad is super into preparedness and he has his whole system set up. I on the other hadn have room for improvement, but have some plans.


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I have two residences. The one in san francisco I already have a plan in case of disaster. Our house is in the ghetto, but about a block away is an old castle that is very small and unnoticeable now. The urban jungle has grown over it and you would never know it was there unless you knew beforehand. A nice castle in the middle of the ghetto, reinforced and ready to weather a seige. The most important part is that this castle has a freshwater stream that flows through it's built in aquaducts. it provides 10,000-30,000 gallons of fresh water a day. If I can secure that building I will be set. The underground tunnels where the water flows are huge, like the kind of shit you see in videogames in the kings castle. I could go down there and board up the entrance and no one would ever know I was there or be able to find me.


As far as my house here in pleasanton, that one's easy. I live near a lot of rich people, and am young and armed. Preferably I would loot the shit out of everything and then take it back home, where the scared suburban dwellers will be too scared to be any actual threat to me.



Everyone, especially those living somewhere like CA where natural disasters like earthquakes can happen, should be prepared to feed/clothes/keep hydrated their family for a few days, a few weeks, or a few months. Buy canned food when it's on sale and buy double. Eat the stuff as it gets old.


Store what you eat and eat what you store. By doing this, you will always have a nice stockade of food, and you will always be eating fresh stuff. Just rotate it out.


Also, I have one of those portable stoves that runs on gasoline from cars. I have this in a bag accompanied by a manual pump and hose, so that I can steal gas from people's cars to power my stove/heater whever I want. This cost me $50 and means I will always have a source of fire for cooking/heat no matter what, since gasoline is all around me.

[CoderGuy]

Well, what would all of you do? Let's say the power went out and it wasn't going to come back online for the masses for let's say one year. That's cities, towns and the like. No power. No water purification, no sewage, no transportation. No banks, no money other than the cash in your wallet.

There's a natural stream on my property but I think I'd opt for a well. I've dug them and though it's a major pain in the ass, if you're thirsty enough you'll dig. I could get a couple of them on my property but I'm not situated well for defense. I live on a corner. I think it would be in my best interest to move my family in with my brother. Safety in numbers, that and he and his family aren't people that I would kill to eat...and he's got a well. Sorry, Roo...I am not sure I'd choose death over cannibalism. It certainly would be a last resort though. If it happened today I have no firearms so that would be a problem. I am currently working on a food pack complete with water purification tabs. I've been working on it for a year or so but not diligently enough. My goal is to have enough calories to sustain 4 people for one year with enough energy left to hunt. Moving this mass of food would be arduous but doable given the right plan. Right now I could probably go three months although it would be anything but tasty. The idea is that within a year I'd be able to set up a system for food. Growing it in New England would only work part of the year and then there's still the issue of protecting it. If it got to that point I'm sure lethal force would be needed...I just hope I'd be on the correct end of that administration.

I'd then hit up a Lowes or Home Depot. Barricade the entire first floor of the base. There would be one way in and one way out (a second way out would be good but only one way in). Plenty of trees out there for heat and cooking. I'd also like to have a horse, but securing it would be one thing...mine would probably be dead within a year 'cos I don't know how to take care of one so no horse. Lots of traps. Deadfalls work if you have enough of them but getting them before others do would be the challenge. I think about this scenario often when I'm on the treadmill at the gym...well, depending on whats on the treadmill in front of me.

Do you think you could last a year and keep your family alive? Seriously. Could you? I think I've got about a 80% chance of succeeding. There would be government food distribution centers but I'd likely want to be away from those populated areas. Would you stay in a city? Is the country a more desirable location?

I would say as far as I am concerned I would not survive. My entire existence is computers (my job, my hobbies, etc.) and everything is digital. Even if I was able to stock up enough for myself for a year, I couldn't sit by and watch those around me suffer, so I would end up cutting my own supply short helping others and not have enough to last. As for work, I would be out of a job and have no income (on the plus side the creditors couldn't come calling so I would probably stay in my home) but with no running water, no power, probably no clean drinking water or batteries (not to mention food) the outlook for survival for a year would be bleak.

Then the other factor is that while we would all love to fantasize about a society that would all pull together and help each other through it, we have seen too many times how in times of need the unscrupulous are right there to take advantage of those in need by gouging them on everything from water, batteries, food, fuel, and then the rest of the criminal element will be looting, mugging, raping and pillaging. So in addition to trying to generally survive the situation, we have to survive the dregs of society that will be preying on everyone.

[sgreger1]

I would say as far as I am concerned I would not survive. My entire existence is computers (my job, my hobbies, etc.) and everything is digital. Even if I was able to stock up enough for myself for a year, I couldn't sit by and watch those around me suffer, so I would end up cutting my own supply short helping others and not have enough to last. As for work, I would be out of a job and have no income (on the plus side the creditors couldn't come calling so I would probably stay in my home) but with no running water, no power, probably no clean drinking water or batteries (not to mention food) the outlook for survival for a year would be bleak.

Then the other factor is that while we would all love to fantasize about a society that would all pull together and help each other through it, we have seen too many times how in times of need the unscrupulous are right there to take advantage of those in need by gouging them on everything from water, batteries, food, fuel, and then the rest of the criminal element will be looting, mugging, raping and pillaging. So in addition to trying to generally survive the situation, we have to survive the dregs of society that will be preying on everyone.

Even in the communist stronghold of san francisco, if it were to be the apocalypse people would be selling water for like $100 a bottle lol. I'd sure hate to be a female when the world ends, because you know how your paying for your groceries sweetheart, lol.

[Darwin]

An extremely believable fictional account of the after effects of an EMP attack is contained in the recent book One Second After by William R. Forstchen. No particular political axes are ground just a thoroughgoing and sobering recitation of what might be expected. Highly recommended.