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  • sgreger1
    Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 9451

    A shout out to our muslim brothers

    We like to bash muslims a lot on this forum, mainly because they are constantly in the news for blowing up buildings and whatenot, but today I would like to give a round of applaus to a group of Muslims who is really going out of their way to show the world that they are good people.


    On new years eve, Egypt had a terrorist attack on the Saints (christian) Church in Alexandria, killing 21 people. This was the final straw for moderate muslims in Egypt, who have now banded together with christians in solidarity against terrorism and a corrupt government who will not address the issue. They showed up to the christians christmas event to offer their bodies as "human shields" against potential terrorist attacks, to show that they will not stand by as the militant groups pick on their christian neighbors.

    This is how humans should interact, and I hope that the christian community in this region remembers that when it is their turn, they too should extend a hand and help someone when you see they are being threatened by unreasonable people.



    So a hand to our brothers in Egypt who have courageously jumped across the traditional cultural/religious lines to stand up for what's right and to speak out against terrorism. Mohhamad, peace be upon him, would be proud to find his followers are heading his message of peace over the deranged message of violence that the imams have twisted his words into.


    http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/3365.aspx


    For those asking where all the moderate muslims are who speak out against terrorism, here they are:










    Egypt’s majority Muslim population stuck to its word Thursday night. What had a been a promise of solidarity to the weary Coptic community, was honoured, when thousands of Muslims showed up at Coptic Christmas eve mass services in churches around the country and at candle light vigils held outside.


    From the well-known to the unknown, Muslims had offered their bodies as “human shields” for last night’s mass, making a pledge to collectively fight the threat of Islamic militants and towards an Egypt free from sectarian strife.

    “We either live together, or we die together,” was the sloganeering genius of Mohamed El-Sawy, a Muslim arts tycoon whose cultural centre distributed flyers at churches in Cairo Thursday night, and who has been credited with first floating the “human shield” idea.

    Among those shields were movie stars Adel Imam and Yousra, popular preacher Amr Khaled, the two sons of President Hosni Mubarak, and thousands of citizens who have said they consider the attack one on Egypt as a whole.

    “This is not about us and them,” said Dalia Mustafa, a student who attended mass at Virgin Mary Church on Maraashly. “We are one. This was an attack on Egypt as a whole, and I am standing with the Copts because the only way things will change in this country is if we come together.”

    In the days following the brutal attack on Saints Church in Alexandria, which left 21 dead on New Year’ eve, solidarity between Muslims and Copts has seen an unprecedented peak. Millions of Egyptians changed their Facebook profile pictures to the image of a cross within a crescent – the symbol of an “Egypt for All”, and around the city, banners went up calling for unity, and depicting mosques and churches, crosses and crescents, together as one.

    ^^^^^^ THIS


    On this Coptic Christmas eve, the solidarity was not just one of religion, but of a desperate and collective plea for a better life and a government with accountability.
  • Premium Parrots
    Super Moderators
    • Feb 2008
    • 9759

    #2
    what about the sisters?
    Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......





    I've been wrong lots of times.  Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.


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    • sgreger1
      Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 9451

      #3
      Originally posted by Premium Parrots View Post
      what about the sisters?

      Sisters? I thought those were just dudes in dresses...


      Speaking of which, how hard would it be to spot a muslim tranny? I mean really, they got the veil over their head, and it's hard to tell if one has a penis by looking in their eyes. Then because of cultural restrictions, it's not like you can just lift up the sheet and find out. But then to make things even worse, you don't get to get under that sweet sheet until your married, and there is no divorce, so if you mary some dude wearing a sheet, than you won't find out till your married and it's too late. What a bummer man.

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      • Santafechestnutred
        Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 76

        #4
        Thank you for posting this....This is a welcome piece of news.....A great story...RED

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        • Mykislt
          Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 677

          #5
          I was just in Egypt, in fact I came in on January 1st into Cairo (got back on the 5th), the day of the attack in Alexandria. While there, I was talking to this muslim guy, and he says, that most Egyptians don't care if you are Coptic, the people behind the attack were a small group of radicals.
          Also, I saw huuuge groups of police around Coptic churches in Cairo (although, none around the churches I saw in Alex). I didn't look for the bombed place in Alexandria, when I was there on the 3rd, and 4th, damn, I should have. A friend of mine who has been living in Egypt for a while told me that the safest time to visit Egypt is right after something like this happens, because security is extremely high, because tourism is the 2nd or 3rd biggest source of income in Egypt, and they don't want to frighten off the tourists.

          The friend of mine says that even Copt women wear the scarf/veil on their heads sometimes. One of his employees is a Coptic lady and she says that if she didn't wear the veil, no one would marry her. But when I was there, I saw plenty of Egyptian women not wearing anything on their heads, and even some wearing the burka (the one that covers the whole face and body, like in Saudi Arabia, and Afghanistan). And almost no Egyptian man was wearing anything with short sleeves, or short pantlegs. They are too embarrassed to show their knees. A lot of men were wearing sweaters even though it was pretty hot at times.

          oh and I forgot to add, there was this facebook page of this Egyptian girl, who posted on her wall, that 2010 was the best year of her life, and that she was going to church to pray. She was one of the 21 people that died.

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          • sgreger1
            Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 9451

            #6
            Originally posted by Mykislt View Post
            oh and I forgot to add, there was this facebook page of this Egyptian girl, who posted on her wall, that 2010 was the best year of her life, and that she was going to church to pray. She was one of the 21 people that died.

            Shit like that makes me so sad. I hate to see people killing each other over religion or politics, but it seems to be what's for dinner now post 9-11.

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            • Hanske
              Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 425

              #7
              I've always thought of muslims as very nice people, but of I can see why people get worried. 70% of all violent criminality and drug dealing in Oslo is done by muslims, but only 25% of the city's population is muslim...

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              • sgreger1
                Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 9451

                #8
                Originally posted by Hanske View Post
                I've always thought of muslims as very nice people, but of I can see why people get worried. 70% of all violent criminality and drug dealing in Oslo is done by muslims, but only 25% of the city's population is muslim...
                Yah, it's interesting how that happens. I think it's a cultural thing. Americans are more passive and afraid to take action, whereas middle easterners (regardless of what country in my experience) are much more militant & aggressive when it comes ot causes they believe in.

                It's kind of like the youth. Young people are the ones that tend to be more militant and staunch in their views, and tend to be the ones starting riots and lighting cars on fire and shit.

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                • truthwolf1
                  Member
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 2696

                  #9
                  My friend said he saw a rotting dead horse in one of the sewage canals on his way to the pyramids.

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                  • raptor
                    Member
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 753

                    #10
                    First, I don't think the majority of people here bash Muslims (maybe Tom). Second, the Egyptian government has been combating the Muslim Brotherhood since its inception during Nasser's rule. This solidarity is really against the sort of religiously conservative status quo which permeates Egyptian society.

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                    • sgreger1
                      Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 9451

                      #11
                      Originally posted by raptor View Post
                      First, I don't think the majority of people here bash Muslims (maybe Tom). Second, the Egyptian government has been combating the Muslim Brotherhood since its inception during Nasser's rule. This solidarity is really against the sort of religiously conservative status quo which permeates Egyptian society.

                      I bash Muslims all the time on here, I make no excuses about it. But this event, though small and insignificant, is the kind of action that can ACTUALLY win the "war on terror". In case you havn't figured it out yet, most people are the same on a base level. Islam or Christianity, the middle of the desert or smack dab in the middle of san francisco, one thing remains uniform: no one likes getting their church blown up. What these muslims did was say "Hey, terrorists just blew up the neighbors house. Even though it's not our house, that is not the kind of activity we want to condone in our neighborhood, so we're going to go outside and help our neighbors so the terrorists can see we are a united front against their BS attempts at making us fear them.


                      Governments and terrorists use fear to control people. When people band together like this, it completely disarms the main weapon in the terrorists arsenal.

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                      • lxskllr
                        Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 13435

                        #12
                        Originally posted by sgreger1 View Post
                        I bash Muslims all the time on here, I make no excuses about it. But this event, though small and insignificant, is the kind of action that can ACTUALLY win the "war on terror". In case you havn't figured it out yet, most people are the same on a base level. Islam or Christianity, the middle of the desert or smack dab in the middle of san francisco, one thing remains uniform: no one likes getting their church blown up. What these muslims did was say "Hey, terrorists just blew up the neighbors house. Even though it's not our house, that is not the kind of activity we want to condone in our neighborhood, so we're going to go outside and help our neighbors so the terrorists can see we are a united front against their BS attempts at making us fear them.


                        Governments and terrorists use fear to control people. When people band together like this, it completely disarms the main weapon in the terrorists arsenal.
                        Well said :^)

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                        • Hanske
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                          • Jan 2011
                          • 425

                          #13
                          I don't wanna say anything here, as I'm afraid of getting south-state americans, and republicans after me. I'm sorry, but I live in a country where what we think is conservative, is liberal in the US.

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                          • lxskllr
                            Member
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 13435

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Hanske View Post
                            I don't wanna say anything here, as I'm afraid of getting south-state americans, and republicans after me. I'm sorry, but I live in a country where what we think is conservative, is liberal in the US.
                            Say what you feel; plenty of other people do. I can't guarantee arguments won't occur, but I'd be interested in what you have to say. America is over represented here, and we could use some different viewpoints :^)

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                            • sgreger1
                              Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 9451

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lxskllr View Post
                              Say what you feel; plenty of other people do. I can't guarantee arguments won't occur, but I'd be interested in what you have to say. America is over represented here, and we could use some different viewpoints :^)
                              Yah I second that. Controversy ftw!

                              Speak your mind though, it's starting to become an echo chamber around here lately. And we pride ourselves in welcoming any and all opinions on this forum. Plus it would be cool to hear about Norway!

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