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  • pinklungs
    Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 115

    #16
    Originally posted by bill77.017 View Post
    Allen Carrs books are brilliant. I read a couple and they really opened my eyes about nicotine addiction and the dangers of
    smoking. The man was a Genius. After he gave up smoking he did clinics for years in which he allowed the group to smoke while
    he explained his method, so i,d reckon second hand smoke contributed to his death. Thank god we have Snus!!!
    Truly brilliant. I have a long commute to work ('bout an hr. each way) and I was able to find his book "Allen Carr's Easy Way To Stop Smoking" in an audio version (CDs). I'd listen to this box set of CDs daily to and from work and be disgusted with the idea of smoking a cigarette to service my nicotine addiction. This man's book got me off cigs for months at a time. The main message i got was that cigarettes are a nicotine delivery device and a very unsafe one at that. The book worked for me in the sense that I ended up hating cigarettes......unfortunately I still held a place for my nicotine addiction! Amen Bill.....thank god we have snus.

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    • CoderGuy
      Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 2679

      #17
      Originally posted by precious007 View Post
      well, i get what you mean...

      at least harm reduction is a first big step...

      and I believe that smokeless tobacco isn't that much of a harm if you're not chaining it...

      probably I've said it before... but smoking to be honest was making me feel like a jelly fish honestly....

      with every cigarette it was only getting nastier... just like Allen Carr says in his books... I had a permanent headache ... more like a migraine.... I had no confidence... no power of will ...and so on... many smokers don't even realize all these negative things ... it's part of their life and would never associate them with smoking.... unless someone opens their eyes wide

      I completely agree with the way smoking made me feel too. In addition every place you go the smoking is a primary concern (will there be a place to smoke) and no carpooling ever as you can't go that long without a smoke and others didn't like being around me due to the smoke smell, which was much worse than I ever imagined. Once I quit smoking I was blown away how much I could smell it.

      I do chain snus but as I said I didn't quit smoking for health reasons, I quit for convenience reasons. I travel a lot and no one at my work smokes so I found myself smoking a pack of cigs before work and then a pack when I got off, all the time between having nic fits and not being pleasant to be around.

      Snus has saved me from a miserable life, has restored my social life, and made me feel like part of the community again (I can do things and never worry about trying to go grab a smoke)

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      • precious007
        Banned Users
        • Sep 2010
        • 5885

        #18
        guess the best part of not smoking is the health concern ...

        I mean as a non-smoker I feel a lot better...

        Speaking of social life... yeah smoking is becoming more and more anti-social...

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        • lxskllr
          Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 13435

          #19
          Smoking didn't really make me feel bad. I used to get the occasional nasty bronchitis, and in the later years, I'd sometimes have morning cough, but otherwise I felt pretty good. I'm sure I'm better off not smoking(much), but stopping wasn't an epiphany or anything.

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          • bill77.017
            Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 2279

            #20
            Originally posted by lxskllr View Post
            Smoking didn't really make me feel bad. I used to get the occasional nasty bronchitis, and in the later years, I'd sometimes have morning cough, but otherwise I felt pretty good. I'm sure I'm better off not smoking(much), but stopping wasn't an epiphany or anything.
            I used to feel like shit when i smoked. I had no energy, a bad cough, and used to get headaches plus i couldn,t breath half the time. I was worried about my health and what smoking was
            doing to me. I knew i had to quit. I read Allen,s books and they definately helped. Although i,m still addicted to nicotine, i,m getting it in the safest way possible so Stopping smoking and discovering Snus was the best thing to ever happen for me.

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            • precious007
              Banned Users
              • Sep 2010
              • 5885

              #21
              Originally posted by bill77.017 View Post
              I used to feel like shit when i smoked. I had no energy, a bad cough, and used to get headaches plus i couldn,t breath half the time. I was worried about my health and what smoking was
              doing to me. I knew i had to quit. I read Allen,s books and they definately helped. Although i,m still addicted to nicotine, i,m getting it in the safest way possible so Stopping smoking and discovering Snus was the best thing to ever happen for me.
              +1 bill

              you sure know what you're talking about

              feeling bad and not breathing are just some of the symptoms ..

              I had heavy legs... barely able to run ... chest tightness .... dizziness ... nausea ...... muscle spasms and so on ....

              some of the symptoms might be associated with my sinusitis but most of them were from smoking....

              I mean smoking was only making them even worse ...

              I smoked a few cigarettes now during the holidays .... hell knows who or what made me do it ... and I instantly felt like shit , lol

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              • AtreyuKun
                Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 1223

                #22
                I never smoked more than 2 packs a day. I actually think that I only smoked 2 packs on one particular day. Usually just the 1.
                The only thing I miss about it are the rituals like having something in my hand, the zippo, playing with a pack, turning one upside down for good luck. The smoke and the smell I will NEVER miss.

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                • f. bandersnatch
                  Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 725

                  #23
                  I'm with you there.

                  I still carry my zippo, actually. I have drilled out one side of the wind guard so it can be used to light a pipe, so I have a vague excuse for bringing it with me everywhere I go. Plus, you never know when you might need to set something on fire.

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                  • lxskllr
                    Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 13435

                    #24
                    I miss having my Zippo with me. I'd carry it, but there's no reason to. The fluid would evaporate before I used it. I'd be feeding it, just to have it taken by the atmosphere.

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                    • f. bandersnatch
                      Member
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 725

                      #25
                      I think the problem here is not the atmosphere, but the clear dearth of pyromania within your daily routine. Quit blaming God for all your problems, lxs.

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                      • lxskllr
                        Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 13435

                        #26
                        Originally posted by f. bandersnatch View Post
                        I think the problem here is not the atmosphere, but the clear dearth of pyromania within your daily routine. Quit blaming God for all your problems, lxs.
                        Hmm... Perhaps you're right. I've been kind of bored with life in general. I see an eventful new year ahead of me, and a reaquaintance with my old friend Zippo :^)

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                        • jagmanss
                          Member
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 12213

                          #27
                          Originally posted by AtreyuKun View Post
                          I never smoked more than 2 packs a day. I actually think that I only smoked 2 packs on one particular day. Usually just the 1.
                          The only thing I miss about it are the rituals like having something in my hand, the zippo, playing with a pack, turning one upside down for good luck. The smoke and the smell I will NEVER miss.
                          I have about 5 zippo Lighters from when I smoked that I miss alot, Damn I loved each one of them, Had one for every occasion... But If your into Los like I am and have an Icetool it will take the zippo's place, The Icetool for me replaces the Zippo's and I carry it around with me all the time and often find it in my hand... I also often find myself opening and closing the catch lid on the snus can or flipping the can in my hand, So I guess I found new rituals to apply to snus...

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                          • toddzilla
                            Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 176

                            #28
                            Giving up smoking was the best decision i ever made, ever. I always felt horrible, i went from running 6 miles a day and playing soccer to not having the energy to get out of bed or off my couch. I knew that shit was killing me but I just couldnt bring myself to quit to quit. Not to mention I also chewed, dipped, and smoked cigars. Now thanks to snus I have quit them all, well i still enjoy a fine cigar from time to time but who doesn't I have so much more energy, i started running again, and i just feel so much healthier. I still chain snus most days but i'm down to about 6 portions a day, and I don't even do it as much for the nic hit anymore as I do for the experience and taste. I can definitely relate to missing the zippo though, I still put it in my pocket when i walk out the door without even realizing it, but besides that I wouldn't even want to go back. About a month ago I broke down and bought a pack of my Marlboro's and when I lit one up i got about half way threw it and I felt really nauseous so I put it out and about 5 minutes later i puked. Has anyone else had this problem after switching to snus?

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                            • Slydel
                              Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 421

                              #29
                              I have written this before but it has been awhile: I work at a completely tobacco-free work place. When I first started I was a smoker. I made a point of never going out to smoke on my breaks. By the time I got out of work, it felt like my lungs were collapsing, like I needed that cigarette so bad. Now that I use snus, I rarely think about my next hit of nicotine. When I get out of work and walk to my car, my first thoughts are not to pop in a snus. If I forgot my snus at home, I do not get angry with myself for forgetting my snus. Smoking was so much different. So what is my point? I believe that it was not only nicotine but possibly other things entering my lungs that was causing the terrific cravings. Maybe it was the delivery system of smoking that was causing all of the cravings. Anyone else go through something like this? It is not like I load up on snus before work, I might use one which I will keep and use on the ride home. I do know that I never thought that I would be able to quit smoking and that others at my workplace switched to oral tobacco before they were able to make that leap to being nicotine free.

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                              • toddzilla
                                Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 176

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Slydel View Post
                                I have written this before but it has been awhile: I work at a completely tobacco-free work place. When I first started I was a smoker. I made a point of never going out to smoke on my breaks. By the time I got out of work, it felt like my lungs were collapsing, like I needed that cigarette so bad. Now that I use snus, I rarely think about my next hit of nicotine. When I get out of work and walk to my car, my first thoughts are not to pop in a snus. If I forgot my snus at home, I do not get angry with myself for forgetting my snus. Smoking was so much different. So what is my point? I believe that it was not only nicotine but possibly other things entering my lungs that was causing the terrific cravings. Maybe it was the delivery system of smoking that was causing all of the cravings. Anyone else go through something like this? It is not like I load up on snus before work, I might use one which I will keep and use on the ride home. I do know that I never thought that I would be able to quit smoking and that others at my workplace switched to oral tobacco before they were able to make that leap to being nicotine free.
                                I feel the same way, I started smoking in college and it got to the point where all i could think about was getting out of class so I could light up. When i first started using snus I was always worried about having a tin on me and I freaked out if i forgot it, but now I mostly use snus for the enjoyment of it now instead of a desperate need for nicotine or whatever shit they put in ciggs

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