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[lxskllr]

I yelled so you'd hear me :^P

Targeted nerve stimulation could yield a long-term reversal of tinnitus, a sometimes debilitating hearing impairment affecting at least 10 percent of senior citizens and up to 40 percent of military veterans, according to an article posted in today’s online edition of Nature.
Researchers Dr. Michael Kilgard and Dr. Navzer Engineer from The University of Texas at Dallas and University-affiliated biotechnology firm MicroTransponder report that sounds paired with stimulation of the vagus nerve eliminated tinnitus in rats. A clinical trial in humans is due to begin in the next few months.

http://www.utdallas.edu/news/2011/1/...n_article.html

[Premium Parrots]

Thats really interesting, thanks for the link. Yea my tinnitus is getting louder and louder. Its really distracting all the time now. It wasn't so bad a few months ago but I cranked up my stereo a few months ago and since then its been a lot worse. I should have known better. Needless to say my 42 year old Klipsch corner horns are for sale now. Surely they had a lot to do with my hearing loss and Tinnitus problems. Its really loud and distracting now.

When I was first diagnosed I asked the doctor how many people actually blow their brains out when they find out there is no cure. All he did was chuckle, obviously he doesn't realize how bad it can get. I'm sure when my heart stops beating the noise will go away too. It would be a freakin miracle to me if this dam noise would stop. Really, I would love some silence.

Thanks for the info. I can see a light at the end of the tunnel now. [I guess thats another problem]

[Snusdog]

Man that sound hopeful (no pun intended). I hope it is something that will work for you. I can only imagine how madding a constant ringing would be.

Nice find lx

[rickcharles606]

I've had a faint to medium ringing in my ears for years now. Most days I don't notice it, but when it's quiet and I'm not watching or listening to something...it's crazy. Does it progressively get worse with time, or does there have to be more hearing damage for it to worsen?

[precious007]

man that sucks,

hope something would work out for tinnitus patients ... I mean how loud is that voice in the years? Can you concentrate on a computer?

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man that sucks,

hope something would work out for tinnitus patients ... I mean how loud is that voice in the years? Can you concentrate on a computer?

The sound volume varies with the patient and whats going on around them as to how disturbing it is. Meaning that watching TV and useing the computer for me it can get pretty dam loud and distracting. Different people hear different sounds. Mine is a high pitched sound/squeal.

@Rick.....Mine was somewhat tolerable but it was still an awfull thought having to hear this for the rest of my life. A few months ago I was cranking my stereo [which I haven't listened to for several years]. 30 minutes later there was a noticable increase in the ringing. Needless to say, my Klipsch corner horns are for sale now. I just can't turn them up to anywhere near full potential. I didn't want to move them anyway. Thats why I was playing them....so I could figure out if I really needed them anymore before I move. I'm keeping my Mac amp and preamp [for the time being]. The Klipchorns are freaking huge and take up aot of space. I'll find some smaller speakers. Anyone interested in the Klipschorns PM me. I'll take $2500 for the pair. They currently go for over $3500 EACH.

I even have to wear hearing protection in my parrot facilities now. Really sucks.

[Mykislt]

I've read that opiates can help with tinnitus
maybe you should look into oxy

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I've read that opiates can help with tinnitus
maybe you should look into oxy

nope they don't work. But I keep trying.

[Darwin]

PP I've always though that corner horns were magnificent looking but were never on my fave list because I consider them simply too bright and shy in the bass and mid bass. This subsequent emphasis on the mid and upper mid ranges seemed to be irritating after a long listening session. Loaded horn speakers are in vogue again but virtually every one I have heard has tendencies similar to the big Klispch jobs. Remember that they were designed in the era of low power tube amps and vinyl music sources so a little extra brilliance was an advantage. That is hardly the case now with not only the near ubiquity of digital music sources but also much higher quality lower distortion vinyl pressings. Even modern tube gear is significantly smoother than its progenitors whether it was budget Dynaco or premium Macintosh hardware. And even speakers in fairly low price ranges now have smooth and non-irritating sonic balances that big horns can only dream of.

There are scads of choices out there now of surpassing smoothness and mid-upper band sweetness that are free of harsh overtones that might ameliorate your tinnitus provided you aren't trying to reproduce Metallica strength arena sound levels. A paring I've heard recently perfectly illustrates this smoothness. It was a pair of Monitor Audio Silver RS6 speakers driven by a very modestly powered Cayin A-50 tube integrated amp. Incredibly smooth and musical combo in every respect, with the tab for both about one-half the cost of a single big K-Horn, and with plenty of distortion free volume despite the Cayin's modest 25W per channel rating. I read about each in Stereophile and managed to hear them at a friend's store in Houston although online availability is naturally much easier. There are many many such products around now but I can certainly recommend this pairing for strain and irritation free listening. And the combo compared favorably with systems in the same showroom that were an order of magnitude more pricey.

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Thanks for the input. Over the years I have visited high end audio stores in hopes of finding a speaker that reproduced as accurately as the K horns. At the stores they sounded fine. But I come home and listen to what I've got and always decide to keep it. Mind you, I am using the Mac gear. Klipsch originally recommended the Mac stuff because it was really smooth and it would offset the brightness of the K horns. Almost as important as useing Mac is the environment you listen in. Simply put....you have to design an accoustically accurate room. If you can accomplish that then there is no better sound, imo. Unless you want to spend a couple hundred K on a system.

Ever have your house hit resonate frequency with some simple tone? Its very much like an earthquate. Doesn't happen much but I can do it here once in a while. Freaks visitors out big time.

Anyway, after I move I'll be looking for some neww speakers. I thought I just use my old Mac amp and Preamp. Whatever speakers I get should sound great. Fact is, with my hearing loss and the tinnitus, I really don't care that much anymore about haveing an incredible sound. Just not that important. Or not as important as my hearing.

[Darwin]

You probably already have made efforts in this regard but if not perhaps a few absorptive panels placed roundabout could take enough edge off the sound to make it easier on the old ear pans. Strict acoustic accuracy may be more of a problem in this case than a solution. Every situation admits to a different solution. For example my hearing is rolled off significantly above about 10K Hertz but nevertheless I find a great many speakers too inherently bright. As a youngster I adored the K-horns for their aggressive upper range profile because I fancied that they let me "see" more closely into complex musical details. As an official old fart the extended range of many modern speakers, and old horns, are irritating despite my inability to hear the highest frequencies. The high freq overtones seem in many cases to be over emphasized and in like fashion to youse tend to irritate my tinnitus as well. Punchiness is fine but perceived smoothness is even more important than whatever the hell a spectrum analyser might have to say about it. The Monitor RS 6 speakers through the Cayin amp seemed to match my aural preferences very well which means they might in fact not be obsessively accurate but they matched my current preferences very well. Of course as you said, and is so frequently and annoyingly the case, hearing speakers in one's home environment can be a drastically different experience from a store showroom. Occupational hazard of both the veteran and aspirant audiophile I suppose.