Mother killed in China land protest,Obama know it?

[sgreger1]

中国儒学联盟 - let me tell you. Americans don't give a crap about human rights. Not one tiny little bit. We just like to talk about how other countries don't have them. All you need to look at stuff like Guantanamo, our own prisons, our record of torture, how we try and assassinate leaders and how we bitch about having to pay for medical and social services to figure this out.

I would add that the things that you list are the actions of the us government, not Americans. Gitmo, the wars etc have always been unpopular with the people.

[GoVegan]

I would add that the things that you list are the actions of the us government, not Americans. Gitmo, the wars etc have always been unpopular with the people.

Now thats more like it. I couldn't believe that I could make some charged political statement and just have you reply by saying something about the deficit. I almost thought you stopped using snus for a second there.

[lxskllr]

So true. 70% of the products in my store are made in China but, you do get what you pay for, so to speak. 70% of the returns on defective merchandise I get are products made in China. But the weird thing is the defective stuff is not the off brand product, it's well known brand names...........go figure.

Even if you find something "Made in America", that usually translates to "Assembled in America". It's all the same parts, just put together here :^S

[sgreger1]

wow thats really interesting. if that is true, and the figure I saw is accurate, then we are in a shitload of debt haha

14 trillion. But that's just the shit on the books. The wars etc have still not been paid for, and we still have I believe 155 trillion in unfunded liabilities.

[lxskllr]

Now thats more like it. I couldn't believe that I could make some charged political statement and just have you reply by saying something about the deficit. I almost thought you stopped using snus for a second there.

RoFL!

[Premium Parrots]

Whats wrong with you tonight?

sgreger has nicotine withdrawal delirium

[GoVegan]

sgreger has nicotine withdrawal delirium

By tomorrow, sgregor will have the caps lock key locked on his keyboard and he will be ending each sentence with !!!

[toddzilla]

14 trillion. But that's just the shit on the books. The wars etc have still not been paid for, and we still have I believe 155 trillion in unfunded liabilities.

and people wonder why our economy is going down the shitter haha

[中国儒学联盟]

China is a bomb,made by the CCP

中国儒学联盟 - let me tell you. Americans don't give a crap about human rights. Not one tiny little bit. We just like to talk about how other countries don't have them. All you need to look at stuff like Guantanamo, our own prisons, our record of torture, how we try and assassinate leaders and how we bitch about having to pay for medical and social services to figure this out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12226601

Beat the party or get far away,or injured when exploding.

[sgreger1]

Whats wrong with you tonight?

Lol. From what i recall it was based on these numbers:

US debt to the PRC and Hong Kong: $1,020 Bn.
US public debt outstanding: $13,561 Bn
US GDP, nominal: $14,119 Bn

So factually, it is true that china only owns 8% of our debt, but that is only for declared treasury bonds. China has significant undeclared dollar based assets, ranging from undeclared treasury bonds to corporate equity.
You really want an understanding of our future with china, i highly recommend the article found HERE.

For the better part of the past decade, the world economy has been dominated by a world economic order that combined Chinese export-led development with US over-consumption. The financial crisis of 2007-2009 likely marks the beginning of the end of the Chimerican relationship. In this paper we look at this era as economic historians, trying to set events in a longer-term perspective. In some ways China's economic model in the decade 1998-2007 was similar to the one adopted by West Germany and Japan after World War II. Trade surpluses with the U.S. played a major role in propelling growth. But there were two key differences. First, the scale of Chinese currency intervention was without precedent, as were the resulting distortions of the world economy. Second, the Chinese have so far resisted the kind of currency appreciation to which West Germany and Japan consented. We conclude that Chimerica cannot persist for much longer in its present form. As in the 1970s, sizeable changes in exchange rates are needed to rebalance the world economy. A continuation of Chimerica at a time of dollar devaluation would give rise to new and dangerous distortions in the global economy.

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[sgreger1]

By tomorrow, sgregor will have the caps lock key locked on his keyboard and he will be ending each sentence with !!!

Wanna talk about crazy? I am turning half/vegan as of today. Switching to all fruit/salad diet with small amounts of meat (really small, like 2 slices of salami a day). I'm in this new mood where I want to make sudden and extreme changes for a while.

[rickcharles606]

中国儒学联盟 - let me tell you. Americans don't give a crap about human rights. Not one tiny little bit. We just like to talk about how other countries don't have them. All you need to look at stuff like Guantanamo, our own prisons, our record of torture, how we try and assassinate leaders and how we bitch about having to pay for medical and social services to figure this out.

I would also like to say that these actions (Gitmo) were carried out agains enemy combatants, and that I'm okay with...even if it only saves one American life. Also, I care about human rights of free citizens of our country, and every other country that chooses NOT to kill American citizens or the citizens of other countries.

中国儒学联盟---welcome to the site I'm curious to know, how do the Chinese people view us Americans. I for one, have really enjoyed the Chinese people I've met over the years, and find myself drawn to the rich history and culture of your country.

[rickcharles606]

Wanna talk about crazy? I am turning half/vegan as of today. Switching to all fruit/salad diet with small amounts of meat (really small, like 2 slices of salami a day). I'm in this new mood where I want to make sudden and extreme changes for a while.

Same here dude, the changes...not the "half/vegan" idea. I've decided to start training again, it's been about 14 months since I've really worked out. I've always been in great shape, but I find now that I'm over 40 it's not as easy. So my goal is to be in the best shape of my life by my birthday...Aug 7th. I am going to start working out with a couple Krav Maga practitioners too. I studied Taiho Jutsu for many years and would like to learn Krav Maga...I find it very interesting.

[中国儒学联盟]

柴玲唯一的作用就是衬托中共成熟

I'm curious to know, how do the Chinese people view us Americans. I for one, have really enjoyed the Chinese people I've met over the years, and find myself drawn to the rich history and culture of your country.

Some worship your success,over France,so called "Anglo-Saxon model".

Some may think you rich, landlords or capitalists, can not think our problems carefully,and exhaust too much.





柴玲唯一的作用就是衬托中共成熟

[justintempler]

I read the other day that contrary to popular belief, china only owns 8% of our debt. Did anyone else read this?

Well if our national debt (not including unfunded liabilities) is 13-14 trillion dollars and China only holds about 1 trillion of that debt, then 8% is about right. What's crazy (if I remember right) is Social Security holds about 17% of our debt. That 8% does not address how much of the USA economy's other debts China owns through it's ownership of our corporations, just US Treasury debt.

China is doing the same thing to its citizens as the US did when it stole land from the American Indians in its westward expansion. China is stealing the land from its farmers in the name of emminent domain. In the USA we no longer own the land when we buy a piece of property, we only own what we put on that land. We are in essence renting our land from the government through property taxes. In order to own the land outright you would have to have an allodial title.

Even when we buy a brand new car paying cash , we don't outright own it unless we have the Manufacturer's Certificate/Statement of Origin . What we get is a Certificate of Title (not the title itself). We have a receipt for the title. This means the government is part owner because they retain the title. This allows them to charge us for vehicle registration, and the subsequent requirements to buy license plates and driver's licenses... etc etc.

Americans don't own what they think they own.