Lucid dreaming

[Crow]

I got a request for the sound file I was talking about earlier... Here it is:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J273R8ST

What I did was put headphones on and fell asleep to it (with repeat). You might want to try one play before sleep at first, then see if you want to try it on repeat.

[sgreger1]

Yes that's what it is. Personally never had trouble getting back but then the mind is a powerful thing, I suppose you could stop yourself if you really focused.

So how does this work, have you successfully had an out of body experience? Is this something you can do on command or through some consistent process? If someone can manually incite an out of body experience at will, and move around space-time in a non-physical medium, than this has serious implications on the entire nature of reality. Can you confirm if you have actually had an OOB experience? That would be so cool.



Remote viewing is real enough I suppose, and it compares to this. You are in a way navigating through space-time while your physical body stays local. So if remote viewing could potentially be real, than i suppose astral projection is only a hop and a skip away.

Speaking of which, anyone here ever tried remote viewing?

[sgreger1]

I got a request for the sound file I was talking about earlier... Here it is:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J273R8ST

What I did was put headphones on and fell asleep to it (with repeat). You might want to try one play before sleep at first, then see if you want to try it on repeat.

I've heard of this before. It's supposed to induce the same effect as that dream herb I was talking about. Where you can like never get out of your dream and you fall into this inceptio-style lucid dream within a dream, within a dream, within a dream. lol.

I did the same thing as you, wake up and then halfway through the day I would wake up again, then wake up again etc. Until eventually I was unsure if I was still in the dream even after I had almost finished my day.

[Crow]

If any of you are interested, I have sound files for astral projection too. Never tried them though, I only tried the lucid dreaming one. I also have sound files for 'clairvoyance', serotonin stimulation, epsilon wave, remote viewing, and so on.

[CoderGuy]

If any of you are interested, I have sound files for astral projection too. Never tried them though, I only tried the lucid dreaming one. I also have sound files for 'clairvoyance', serotonin stimulation, epsilon wave, remote viewing, and so on.

Sounds interesting, brainwave manipulation is helpful, especially in the beginning.

[CoderGuy]

So how does this work, have you successfully had an out of body experience? Is this something you can do on command or through some consistent process? If someone can manually incite an out of body experience at will, and move around space-time in a non-physical medium, than this has serious implications on the entire nature of reality. Can you confirm if you have actually had an OOB experience? That would be so cool.



Remote viewing is real enough I suppose, and it compares to this. You are in a way navigating through space-time while your physical body stays local. So if remote viewing could potentially be real, than i suppose astral projection is only a hop and a skip away.

Speaking of which, anyone here ever tried remote viewing?

I used to do it all the time (OBE) when I used to meditate regularly. I could do it on command when I sat down, relaxed, and cleared my mind. I have been getting back into meditation lately as I miss my adventures. Could I "prove" I was having an OBE? No, and personally I don't really care to. I had vivid and controllable experiences that are today just as vivid in my memory as any physical experiences I have had so that is proof to me. I learned how to drive a manual transmission during about 5-6 OBE sessions and when I tried it physically I just applied the same things I had learned and it was like I had been driving one for years. Dreams generally vanish quickly after you wake up unless it's traumatic in some way, and I feel that the traumatic ones are probably an OBE experience that the mind doesn't know how to handle so it becomes a nightmare or some other very rememberable experience. I believe we all have OBE experiences many times throughout our lives, even if we don't recognize them as such.

I think Astral Travel is similar to Remote Viewing but generally with a different focus. From what I know of Remote Viewing it was supposed to be used to find information or locations here on the physical world were as Astral Travel is generally going to other places (dimensions or planes or whatever you want to call them).

I found a site with a good description, there is a ton of information out there, there are also many youtube videos with techniques and information.

http://www.astraldynamics.com/home/obe-home.html

[bill77.017]

I used to do it all the time (OBE) when I used to meditate regularly. I could do it on command when I sat down, relaxed, and cleared my mind. I have been getting back into meditation lately as I miss my adventures.

What was it like the first time you had an OBE? Were you afraid or did you know what was
happening?

[sgreger1]

I used to do it all the time (OBE) when I used to meditate regularly. I could do it on command when I sat down, relaxed, and cleared my mind. I have been getting back into meditation lately as I miss my adventures. Could I "prove" I was having an OBE? No, and personally I don't really care to. I had vivid and controllable experiences that are today just as vivid in my memory as any physical experiences I have had so that is proof to me. I learned how to drive a manual transmission during about 5-6 OBE sessions and when I tried it physically I just applied the same things I had learned and it was like I had been driving one for years. Dreams generally vanish quickly after you wake up unless it's traumatic in some way, and I feel that the traumatic ones are probably an OBE experience that the mind doesn't know how to handle so it becomes a nightmare or some other very rememberable experience. I believe we all have OBE experiences many times throughout our lives, even if we don't recognize them as such.

I think Astral Travel is similar to Remote Viewing but generally with a different focus. From what I know of Remote Viewing it was supposed to be used to find information or locations here on the physical world were as Astral Travel is generally going to other places (dimensions or planes or whatever you want to call them).

I found a site with a good description, there is a ton of information out there, there are also many youtube videos with techniques and information.

http://www.astraldynamics.com/home/obe-home.html

**** proof dude. If you say it's true than i'm inclined to believe you. This is so cool, I must learn how to do this immediately. This is weird too because I was just thinking recently about getting into meditation, something I have always wanted to learn more about but never got around to.

[CoderGuy]

What was it like the first time you had an OBE? Were you afraid or did you know what was
happening?

I knew what was happening as I was actively trying to do it, but I was scared in the beginning (before the first time I actually did it) as I had no idea what to really expect. I tried too hard in the beginning and actually stopped myself from succeeding. After a couple weeks of that, one night I decided not to bother trying as I was tired, I laid down to sleep and lightly meditated myself to sleep, as I started dozing off I suddenly "rolled" out of my body. Scared the s**t out of me and I immediately snapped back. But I finally knew what it felt like. I decided since that seemed to work, it would become my technique and tried it on subsequent nights. I found one of the keys for me was to stop smoking earlier in the evening (around 5 hours before bed time) and drank no caffein. That way I was less keyed up from stimulants and able to relax more. The first time I actually succeeded was about a week later. Again I "rolled" out of my body. I did not let myself get scared and sort of lifted (like the old mummies where they stand straight up from a lying position) on my bed and started floating toward the ceiling, the next thing I knew I was standing on a beautiful beach, feeling and hearing everything as though I was there. I reached down and felt the water and sand and no sooner than I thought "hey, I actually did it" I snapped back to my body and opened my eyes. That was 20 years ago and it's just as vivid as any vacation I have ever taken, which is how I know it was an OBE.

I did it for a couple years regularly but then, like life has a way of doing, things got tense and hectic in my life and I stopped mediating and stopped traveling and before I knew it, years had passed. I have recently started doing it again and it's a great feeling.

[CoderGuy]

**** proof dude. If you say it's true than i'm inclined to believe you. This is so cool, I must learn how to do this immediately. This is weird too because I was just thinking recently about getting into meditation, something I have always wanted to learn more about but never got around to.

It's is weird as I just recently started doing it again and then this thread pops up. It's not hard to do. They real key is relaxing and clearing the mind. I have some friends that find it impossible to clear their minds and spend all their time worrying about things like what will it feel like, will they be attacked while out, will they lose their body, etc etc. Total self-sabotage. If you are good at visualization it will be a piece of cake.

[sgreger1]

It's is weird as I just recently started doing it again and then this thread pops up. It's not hard to do. They real key is relaxing and clearing the mind. I have some friends that find it impossible to clear their minds and spend all their time worrying about things like what will it feel like, will they be attacked while out, will they lose their body, etc etc. Total self-sabotage. If you are good at visualization it will be a piece of cake.

I read several pages from that link you posted, including the treatise on astral projection. I have to say that they make some pretty glaring mistakes, like saying that when a human dies they lose weight, which is the astral mass leaving the body. This is an old and debunked myth, the whole "you lose 21 grams when you die, that's your soul" thing.

But otherwise it was pretty informative. Can you teach me the basics on how to do this dude? I used to listen to Roy Masters meditations, he would have you lie down and clear your mind of thoughts, focus on your arm etc and eventually you start falling asleep, the key being to hang in the grey area between waking/sleep. Is this a similar concept?

[bill77.017]

I used to practice meditation and read a couple of books about OBE,s with a view to trying it. I,ve read on the net about people who
had good experiences and people who have had terrible experiences, specifically with leaving the body and what the sensation feels
like, and with some inhabitants of the astral plane. I decided it wasn,t for me. I think you have to be a certain type of person to be
able to do it.

[CoderGuy]

I read several pages from that link you posted, including the treatise on astral projection. I have to say that they make some pretty glaring mistakes, like saying that when a human dies they lose weight, which is the astral mass leaving the body. This is an old and debunked myth, the whole "you lose 21 grams when you die, that's your soul" thing.

But otherwise it was pretty informative. Can you teach me the basics on how to do this dude? I used to listen to Roy Masters meditations, he would have you lie down and clear your mind of thoughts, focus on your arm etc and eventually you start falling asleep, the key being to hang in the grey area between waking/sleep. Is this a similar concept?

Yes that's exactly the key, clear the mind, relax, focus on something like an object or if your eyes are close, a sensation (like arm) or sound. Also visualization helped me too as time went on and I no longer had to spend as much time "getting out". I would lay down, clear the mind, relax, and visualize (including sensations) a place I was very familiar with (work used to work for me). Although I never found myself at work, the act of vividly visualizing "not laying in my bed" was enough to shift my consciousness.

[CoderGuy]

I used to practice meditation and read a couple of books about OBE,s with a view to trying it. I,ve read on the net about people who
had good experiences and people who have had terrible experiences, specifically with leaving the body and what the sensation feels
like, and with some inhabitants of the astral plane. I decided it wasn,t for me. I think you have to be a certain type of person to be
able to do it.

I agree, it's not for everyone. I have always had an interest in these types of things so it was a natural progression for me. The other "planes of existence" are much like here (or I should more accurately say this is more like the other planes of existence") in that there are good areas and bad areas. If you go wandering around alone where you are not supposed to, you can find trouble. I wouldn't take a midnight stroll alone in the 8th Ward New Orleans for instance, so it's a matter of keeping your focus. When you are on an OBE thoughts have power. If you start thinking bad things, they will find you. Many people that have problems try (or succeed) in having OBEs while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, naturally they have a "bad trip".

That's where the meditation comes in. Helps you keep your focus, helps you expand your awareness, helps you meet spirit guides so you have someone with you, etc.

[Bigblue1]

I've experienced some of what you guys have described in this thread. Always chalked it up to the opiates tho......