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  • Roo
    Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 3446

    #76
    Missing persons, lost treasures, and wanted criminals would be found all the time, because law enforcement and the military would seek out and successfully employ the powers of these able individuals. If your daughter went missing you could look in the phone book because one of these individuals would certainly sell their service. Sure, they can't do it every time, or even most of the time, but they would try, wouldn't they? Where are these people?

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    • precious007
      Banned Users
      • Sep 2010
      • 5885

      #77
      This is what i'm talking about though. We have people claiming that they are having these crazy experiences, yet science will not even investigate. They immediately say "Nope, doens't fit within our established paradigm of how things work, not even going to look at it". I don't believe it is the "soul" looking around, because I don't believe we have a soul really.
      Have you read about Karma and Reincarnation ? That's another proof we do have a soul....

      Here's something for you to experiment....

      1) Take your right hand ... strech in out or shake it a little.....
      2) Put your palm slowly..... bring it slowly to your forehead...
      3) Notice what feeling you get in your stomach (very similar to stomach butterflies)

      and I will explain why this happens

      Missing persons, lost treasures, and wanted criminals would be found all the time, because law enforcement and the military would seek out and successfully employ the powers of these able individuals. If your daughter went missing you could look in the phone book because one of these individuals would certainly sell their service. Sure, they can't do it every time, or even most of the time, but they would try, wouldn't they? Where are these people?
      they actually appeal to these people and some cases have been resolved succesfully

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      • Roo
        Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 3446

        #78
        Precious007: There is no such thing as proof that we have a soul or that we are incarnated. Why aren't you a Hindu? Or are you? It's 3AM in Bucharest. Go to bed!

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        • precious007
          Banned Users
          • Sep 2010
          • 5885

          #79
          Originally posted by Roo View Post
          Precious007: There is no such thing as proof that we have a soul or that we are incarnated. Why aren't you a Hindu? Or are you? It's 3AM in Bucharest. Go to bed!
          lol

          if you don't know there's a proof that doesn't mean there isn't one

          I sleep 4 hours per night so .... 3 AM isn't my bedtime

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          • sgreger1
            Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 9451

            #80
            Originally posted by Roo View Post
            Missing persons, lost treasures, and wanted criminals would be found all the time, because law enforcement and the military would seek out and successfully employ the powers of these able individuals. If your daughter went missing you could look in the phone book because one of these individuals would certainly sell their service. Sure, they can't do it every time, or even most of the time, but they would try, wouldn't they? Where are these people?

            Roo, I don't know the answers to your questions. If quantum physics exists, why is everyone not using quantum computers right now? And if renewable energy exists, why is everyone still using fossil fuels?

            Just like these examples, it's not because it's not possible, it's just that people have not been empowered with the tools to do so.


            I imagine there are very few people who are actually trained in remote viewing. The military program only lasted 20 years and had only a few dozen guys. Some of them tried doing seminars and shit after they got defunded, but I doubt they have properly trained anyone. At some point the military will declassify the documents on how to properly remote view (I forget what the retention rate is on things like that, probably pretty long), and then perhaps more people can learn.

            As for out of body experiences, from what I gather; they can project themselves to far off places, but actually choosing the place is difficult or something. Maybe coderguy can elaborate.

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            • Roo
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              • Jun 2008
              • 3446

              #81
              Man, as the air operations director for a tour company I'm in the wrong business. **** plane tickets, I should go into selling astral projection packages, Total Recall style. "Two weeks!"

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              • sgreger1
                Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 9451

                #82
                Originally posted by Roo View Post
                Man, as the air operations director for a tour company I'm in the wrong business. **** plane tickets, I should go into selling astral projection packages, Total Recall style. "Two weeks!"
                It's just like meditation. Some people feel it's quackery, some people feel it really helps them relax and feel happier. I guess it's all in whether you believe in it or not.

                I understand it's easy to laugh roo, but I mean these as serious questions. The military felt that this was successful on a number of occasions, what do you say to that? They just didn't feel it was consistent enough to decide the fate of wars and such. But they all agree that it worked at least once. So if it worked once, than how do you explain it? It wasn't some vague bullshit like "A crane in russia". I have read deeper into this than the wikipedia page, it was by all accounts and descriptions something that could not have been randomly guessed, and this happened on several occasions. Several hundred actually. This is not like that one psychic on TV, these were guys who had a method that worked at least some of the time. They could give you coordinates to an underground bunker in Russia, they could find a downed aircraft etc. But they couldn't do it on command, their success was remarkable but sporadic, so it was eventually defunded after the cold war spending frenzy ended.

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                • sgreger1
                  Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 9451

                  #83
                  This thread needs some comic relief. Here's to all the souls out there.


                  Philosorapter, on God and the afterlife...



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                  • Crow
                    Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 4312

                    #84
                    Would you say you're a psychonaut?
                    Words of Wisdom

                    Premium Parrots: only if the carpet matches the drapes.
                    Crow: Of course, that's a given.
                    Crow: Imagine a jet black 'raven' with a red bush?
                    Crow: Hmm... You know, that actually sounds intriguing to me.
                    Premium Parrots: sounds like a freak to me
                    Premium Parrots: remember DO NOT TURN YOUR BACK ON CROW
                    Premium Parrots: not that it would hurt one bit if he nailed you with his little pecker.
                    Frosted: lucky twat
                    Frosted: Aussie slags
                    Frosted: Mind the STDs Crow

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                    • xrt
                      Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 374

                      #85
                      I used to be in to this stuff. I urge everyone to check out books and hemi-sync tapes by Robert A. Monroe
                      WIKI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Monroe
                      Random Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoZWO...eature=related
                      Read some of the comments in this youtube video.

                      I had and used the hemi-sync tapes and with practice they can be great tools.
                      A lot of people would agree that Robert is the pioneer of OBE's, check out his books too.
                      There are some techniques explained in one of his first books.

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                      • CoderGuy
                        Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 2679

                        #86
                        Originally posted by xrt View Post
                        I used to be in to this stuff. I urge everyone to check out books and hemi-sync tapes by Robert A. Monroe
                        WIKI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Monroe
                        Random Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoZWO...eature=related
                        Read some of the comments in this youtube video.

                        I had and used the hemi-sync tapes and with practice they can be great tools.
                        A lot of people would agree that Robert is the pioneer of OBE's, check out his books too.
                        There are some techniques explained in one of his first books.
                        I have heard of The Monroe Institute. Probably a lot of good information with their stuff.

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                        • Roo
                          Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 3446

                          #87
                          Sgreger1 this one's for you: I had a really shitty lucid dream last night. Let me start by saying I did not try your hand trick at all while awake; I dream lucidly often enough to not try to increase the frequency of such dreams, although I suppose that's not a bad idea. Anyway in my dream I was with my girlfriend. The dream just sucked for reasons I can't remember, things were just creepy and not going my way, when suddenly I looked down at the palms of my hands. My hands were all contorted and the skin on my palms was all bubbly and blistery. I turned to my girlfriend and told her that meant all this was not happening and it was just a dream. Bingo, I was dreaming lucidly. I tried to convince her that she was doing the same and we could change our reality to however we saw fit. So far, pretty cool. But then I decided it was a good time to fly away from all the weird shit that was happening, but I could only float, and only very slowly and usually in the wrong direction. (This is pretty common for me I suppose, trying to fly in dreams but only being able to float and only if I try really hard). Then my girlfriend was gone but I was still trying to control my dream. The only problem was that nothing was going my way, yet I knew that and still was aware I was dreaming! Lol at one point I decided to find some girls who wanted to get fresh, knowing they would want to because it was my dream, but all the girls I approached were not only ugly, they had wet nasty cigarettes hanging out of their mouths! Some of them had a whole mouthful of them. Haha anyway, I just wanted to let you know that the hand trick came into play in my lucid dream, but I couldn't get anything to happen the way I wanted it to. I couldn't fly for shit and the girls were all nasty. I can't believe I'm typing this.

                          Then I woke up to sleep paralysis. That sucked too.

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                          • jagmanss
                            Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 12213

                            #88
                            I've Had an Acid dream once.. Does that count

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                            • xrt
                              Member
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 374

                              #89
                              Acid / Booze / ect - dreams are only made up in our mind.

                              As I stated I was into this stuff, but one day it hit me: Birth,Life,Death=End. And thats OK : )

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                              • jagmanss
                                Member
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 12213

                                #90
                                I saw a UFO Once while i was having an acid induced Lucid dream that lead me to sleep Paralysis ....

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