Thirdhand Smoke...really?

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  • WickedKitchen
    Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 2528

    Thirdhand Smoke...really?

    really? What do you all think of this one?



    SAN FRANCISCO (CBS 5) – You’ve heard of the damaging health effects of smoking and secondhand smoke. But what happens when the smoke settles?
    According to scientists, smoke literally sticks around for a while, as something they are calling “thirdhand smoke.”
    Karolyn Ballard learned about it the hard way. Her new apartment had been painted and scrubbed, carpets cleaned. What she didn’t know was a heavy smoker just moved out.
    “I woke up at night,” Ballard said, “and I could just smell the tobacco smell getting worse every night. It was like it was just oozing out of the walls.”
    “It can be a real problem,” said landlord and professional ServPro cleaner Paul Watts. His crew wears protective gear to scrub a smoker’s house, to prevent nicotine poisoning.
    “It’s a very long, slow process. And it has to be cleaned off before you can put paint, or else it’s going to bleed through the paint,” Watts said.
    We’ve all smelled “thirdhand smoke” in places such as bars and stale hotel rooms. Now scientists are beginning to study it.
    At Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, a chain-smoking machine puffs away on eight cigarettes at a time, depositing smoke residue on various materials so scientists can study the fallout and chemical reactions.
    Researchers Mohamad Sleiman and Lara Gundel say nicotine is the gift that keeps on giving. The residue hangs around for weeks or months, they found, sticking to everything from clothes to carpets to kids — long after the smoker has gone.
    “It’s really difficult to get rid of the smoke that is impregnated in the surfaces,” Sleiman said.
    But that’s not all.
    “What we have found is that residues of tobacco smoke will get more toxic with time,” said Gundel. More toxic as nicotine reacts with other household gases and chemicals, or gets taken into the lungs as dust.
    “And those particles are teeny particles,” said Gundel. “And they’re very irritating. They’re more irritating than nicotine or cigarette particles themselves.”
    In another groundbreaking study, San Diego State University professor Georg Matt tested apartments after smokers moved out and non-smoking families moved in.
    “We find these compounds in some apartments, six months, maybe even a year or longer,” said Matt.
    Even after the apartments were cleaned and painted, he found nicotine all over, including on the hands of non-smoking adults. Most disturbing, Matt said he also found signs of nicotine in the urine of children.
    “This child, as well as the adults, are likely to get exposed to tobacco smoke that was smoked in that apartment months ago,” Matt said.
    Scientists say children’s exposure to thirdhand smoke can be 10 times greater than adults’, because of their small size and their tendency to put things in their mouth.
    “Our concern about children is that they can be exposed to these carcinogens through their skin and through breathing and eating dust,” said Gundel.
    What are the health effects from thirdhand smoke? No one fully knows because it hasn’t been studied yet.
    But researches such as Georg Matt say they do know this, “You can’t just open the window and it goes away.”
    “When you live in an environment like this, you cannot escape it,” Matt said.
    According to one experiment, even though airborne toxins from thirdhand smoke are about a hundred times less than from secondhand smoke, those exposures can add up over time.
    CBS 5 asked tobacco industry leader Phillip Morris about thirdhand smoke. The company declined to comment.
  • muddyfunkstar
    Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 967

    #2
    What are the health effects from thirdhand smoke? No one fully knows because it hasn’t been studied yet.
    There you go, summed it on one sentence buried right at the end.

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    • lxskllr
      Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 13435

      #3
      ZOMG!! The DEMON NICOTINE!!111!!! Hide the kids! Pass some laws!!!

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      • Frosted
        Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 5798

        #4
        What a total load of ****.

        What about people that live in cities breathing in all the pollutants. Remember asbestos brake pads? The amount of dust those things kicked up would have been pretty bad - but my grandfather smoked all his life and worked unprotected with asbestos and died of old age.

        Nicotine seeping through the walls? - **** off. Since when was nicotine dangerous. Yeah - I know that they meant tar but it's not hard if you're a professional writer. Is it.


        Fear fear fear fear. I wish these people would piss off, get a life and leave me alone.

        (thanks for the article - I was feeling lethargic until I read this)

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        • Veganpunk
          Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 5381

          #5
          Cig. smoke does stick around though. The old smoking room at Wal-Mart was crazy yellow.

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          • Frosted
            Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 5798

            #6
            I remember my grandfathers living room needing to be redecorated every year because the walls and ceilings would yellow up.

            Over here in England some peoples houses kill them because they're built over granite. That's life. We live in an imperfect world - some people need to wise up to that.
            I think that if these yellow walls in peoples houses harm the occupants it'll be very late on in life when it would have any detrimental effect (if it actually does have an effect). My annoyance at people who want to eke every second of enjoyment away from their lives just to last a few days more is incredible. They'll probably be a burden to society and their children because they're so old that their minds have gone - needing their arses wiped and the drool and snot cleaned from their vacant bodies. It won't make any difference - people that write articles like this are already vacant.

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            • Snus Boost
              Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 640

              #7
              “It can be a real problem,” said landlord and professional ServPro cleaner Paul Watts. His crew wears protective gear to scrub a smoker’s house, to prevent nicotine poisoning.
              “It’s a very long, slow process. And it has to be cleaned off before you can put paint, or else it’s going to bleed through the paint,” Watts said.

              This guy just figured he would justify the ridiculous amount he charges to clean. What an A$$hole

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              • truthwolf1
                Member
                • Oct 2008
                • 2696

                #8
                My gramps house (who died at 85 by the way) had the thickest yellow nicotine smoke film covering everything in his house. He smoked a pack or two of Commander dead ends a day.
                Took a long time to clean that place with all the brown nicotine water buckets. Was probably smoking at same time cleaning.

                Surpirsingly still here! 15 years later

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