Would you vote for this man?

[WickedKitchen]

I want to hear someone run on the big issues that Sgregr pointed out. The big ones are the real issues. It sickens me to hear people debating abortion, gays in the military, same-sex marriages, going to church, etc. To me, those issues are trivial. Abortion will be here forever, legal or not. Gays will be here forever, fair or not. I mean the issues like these are just talking points.

I think we need a candidate that is strong, has a vision, and has the balls to do rash things. SS elimination isn't that big of a thing for me, personally as I'm only 36. The people that really get screwed are the ones that are in their 50s. These people are going to get the brunt of it but the system was set up for them and they've become reliant on it. I don't see how our government might abandon their commitment to these people. I think it's a change that has to be phased out and it'll probably be best done over several generations. Problem is if there is no other practical way of saving your money then the system is needed. Even someone like me who has time on their side is not jazzed about the stock market, bonds, etc. I can't say that I have faith in our government either when it comes to this sort of stuff. I think that's going to be the major issue in the next few years. Faith in the government, and the American way in general.

[lxskllr]

We need someone to eviscerate defense spending, then we can quit being the world's cops. When I say eviscerate, I mean cut 85%+ of the budget. Have a small HIGHLY trained military, and keep it within our borders. That'll free up more money than we'd know what to do with. That'll give us breathing room to stop oppressing our citizens, and propping up corporations at the expense of everyone else.

[sgreger1]

I want to hear someone run on the big issues that Sgregr pointed out. The big ones are the real issues. It sickens me to hear people debating abortion, gays in the military, same-sex marriages, going to church, etc. To me, those issues are trivial. Abortion will be here forever, legal or not. Gays will be here forever, fair or not. I mean the issues like these are just talking points.

I think we need a candidate that is strong, has a vision, and has the balls to do rash things. SS elimination isn't that big of a thing for me, personally as I'm only 36. The people that really get screwed are the ones that are in their 50s. These people are going to get the brunt of it but the system was set up for them and they've become reliant on it. I don't see how our government might abandon their commitment to these people. I think it's a change that has to be phased out and it'll probably be best done over several generations. Problem is if there is no other practical way of saving your money then the system is needed. Even someone like me who has time on their side is not jazzed about the stock market, bonds, etc. I can't say that I have faith in our government either when it comes to this sort of stuff. I think that's going to be the major issue in the next few years. Faith in the government, and the American way in general.

I think we should let everyone who is over a certain age, like maybe everyone over 30, but those under 30 should just count their losses or the government should try to reasonably pay them back or compensate them for what they have already paid into the system. It just can't continue, and I as a 24 year old am willing to give up what I have paid into it. Those who are already getting older shouldn't have to lose their benefits. if I can just keep my SSI and Meidcaide/Medicare deductions than I will save for my own retirement, I got plenty of time.


Someone has to do it, someone is going to have to address the issues eventually as them become more and more out of control. I agree 100% wickedkitchen, I don't care about gays or about anything else other than fixing the economy so my family and I can have a fair chance to succeed, as is suggested to be my right in the bill of rights and also alluded to in the constitution. For this country to provide the american dream, the number one thing it needs to do is start making money again.

[GoVegan]

Interesting article and I would definitely consider giving him my vote. The problem is he is not some mean lunatic with a hidden corporate agenda and he will never get the Republican nomination. I don't mean that cynically its just that moderate Republicans who stick with their own parties agenda never get elected. They will pick some whack job like Palin who will try and polarize every issue. He kind of reminds me of Schwarzenegger a bit and I don't think the majority of conservatives across the country felt that Schwarzenegger was a true Republican.

[LincolnSnuff]

Although we own it now since we broke it is time for someone like a Paul to come in and do a verified audit of the military industrial complex.

I, for one, am tired of people throwing the Military Industrial Complex out there as the cause of all of America's problems. First of all, you cannot audit something that is just a theoretical concept. It is not a government "department" or program that can be audited. It is merely the perceived relationship between congress, the military, and the independent defense contractors. This particular relationship is no different than the relationship between legislators, the FDA, and tobacco companies. Call it the Bureaucracy Industrial Complex. These types of "iron triangles" exist everywhere. You would do well to look into the "revolving-door" phenomenon, which probably has more to do with the Military Industrial Complex than any sort of government conspiracy.

Also, whoever above said that the U.S. has no current credible threats has a very short memory. 9/11/2001 was less than 10 years ago buddy. Your choice of the word "credible" is directly related to the past and current outlay of spending on defense. For example, if we had no military then any group of 2 or more determined people would be a credible threat to the United States. There are 1 billion Muslims on the planet (the vast majority of which are peaceful, god-fearing people), but if only 1% have declared jihad against the US, that means there are 10 MILLION people that would give their lives to kill/hurt/harm Americans. You don't see this as a "credible" threat?

[dpete]

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."

[lxskllr]

Also, whoever above said that the U.S. has no current credible threats has a very short memory. 9/11/2001 was less than 10 years ago buddy. Your choice of the word "credible" is directly related to the past and current outlay of spending on defense. For example, if we had no military then any group of 2 or more determined people would be a credible threat to the United States. There are 1 billion Muslims on the planet (the vast majority of which are peaceful, god-fearing people), but if only 1% have declared jihad against the US, that means there are 10 MILLION people that would give their lives to kill/hurt/harm Americans. You don't see this as a "credible" threat?

No, that isn't a credible threat. You don't need long range bombers to deal with primitives. You don't need nuclear subs to deal with primitives. You don't need aircraft carriers to deal with primitives either. 9-11 is the scare tactic the politicians, and the defense contractors that have them in their pockets use to justify their existence, and protect their money flow. The fact is our old shit is better than most people's new shit, and we don't need most of it if we don't sail around the world getting into other country's business where we don't belong. If we want to be imperialist ****s, at least be honest about it. Just take what is wanted, and stop wrapping everything up in a flag, and saying it's for "security".

[truthwolf1]

I, for one, am tired of people throwing the Military Industrial Complex out there as the cause of all of America's problems. First of all, you cannot audit something that is just a theoretical concept. It is not a government "department" or program that can be audited. It is merely the perceived relationship between congress, the military, and the independent defense contractors. This particular relationship is no different than the relationship between legislators, the FDA, and tobacco companies. Call it the Bureaucracy Industrial Complex. These types of "iron triangles" exist everywhere. You would do well to look into the "revolving-door" phenomenon, which probably has more to do with the Military Industrial Complex than any sort of government conspiracy.

Also, whoever above said that the U.S. has no current credible threats has a very short memory. 9/11/2001 was less than 10 years ago buddy. Your choice of the word "credible" is directly related to the past and current outlay of spending on defense. For example, if we had no military then any group of 2 or more determined people would be a credible threat to the United States. There are 1 billion Muslims on the planet (the vast majority of which are peaceful, god-fearing people), but if only 1% have declared jihad against the US, that means there are 10 MILLION people that would give their lives to kill/hurt/harm Americans. You don't see this as a "credible" threat?

The day before 911 Mr. Rumsfeld announced the missing trillions from the Pentagon. This is absolutely ridiculous and grotesque fleecing of it's citizens. The military industrial complex like the big corporations have hijacked our elected officials free will which is never good for you nor I. Yes there is Bureaucracy Industrial Complex almost everywhere you look with many facets but the military makes up the biggest abusers.

To say that it is impossible to audit or make things accountable is to pretty much like telling the mafia to go ahead and dont worry about anything. I would much rather have a homeland security following the money then forcing it's own citizens to walk through body scanners. (Terrosim is a very limited/if real threat compared to the real crimes of illegal immigrants) which we dont do anything about. It is a giant sham of where the money is going for our safety. When there is talk about cutting life saving programs for the elderly (which everyone here will be someday), so we can continue dropping cash bombs to defense contractors for endless occupations is no conspiracy in my mind.

[sgreger1]

Also, whoever above said that the U.S. has no current credible threats has a very short memory. 9/11/2001 was less than 10 years ago buddy. Your choice of the word "credible" is directly related to the past and current outlay of spending on defense. For example, if we had no military then any group of 2 or more determined people would be a credible threat to the United States. There are 1 billion Muslims on the planet (the vast majority of which are peaceful, god-fearing people), but if only 1% have declared jihad against the US, that means there are 10 MILLION people that would give their lives to kill/hurt/harm Americans. You don't see this as a "credible" threat?

No I absolutely do not see it as a credible threat. If there were a credible threat, than people would be actively waging Jihad against America. Someone just got 3 pairs of box cutters onto a flight at JFK last week, there is no security or protection, it's just that terrorists are not actively targeting the united states. At best we have a few lone nuts who were aided by our government.


9-11 was an attack, yes, but it was not an attack frmo another country. Us going and occupying Iraq or Afghanistan does nothing to prevent further 9-11 type events from happening.


What credible threat is there then Lincolnsnuf? What country is currently marching their armies in our direction, which nation has stormed our beaches lately? The reality is that we are doing more to exacerbate the problem than to fix it, our current foreign policy is more likely to encourage terrorism than it is to prevent it. And all the time there has been no real security at home and not 1 real terrorist attack.



If there were "10 million people" actively trying to "give their lives to kill/hurt/harm Americans", than where are they lincoln? How come none of them ever attack us, it would be so easy and would only take like 10 guys. A single guy with a decent budget could wreak havoc on a giant country like ours, but yet NO ONE EVER ATTACKS US even though our borders are wide open and our airport security is terrible. We aren't even trying to stop them and they still don't attack us. It's been a decade and we are no better off than the day after 9-11. We just have a bigger mess to clean up now...

[justintempler]

Does he realise he is NOT a republican and theres no way the party would support him enough to get past primaries?

Did anyone see the crap Fox pulled? They outright fabricated the news. I've never seen anything so blatant.

[truthwolf1]

It really is disgusting but I think many have awoken to that fact that they are being manipulated and it is not just Americans.

Found this pretty interesting also.
Hillary seeking more propaganda funds.

[Crow]

Would you vote for this man?

As a Democrat, I would say no.

Nonetheless, I would like to see him get the Republican nomination in 2012. He should bring up a debate on reforming our cannabis laws (which would surely bring in a lot of Independent support for Gary Johnson).

[justintempler]

It really is disgusting but I think many have awoken to that fact that they are being manipulated and it is not just Americans.

Found this pretty interesting also.
Hillary seeking more propaganda funds.

I saw that. I watch RT on a regular basis. Max Keiser is must see.

Even if the USA starts up a propaganda news service, there's no way they can drown out, RT (Russia), PressTV (Iran), Al Jazeera, & Wikileaks.

[sgreger1]

I saw that. I watch RT on a regular basis. Max Keiser is must see.

Even if the USA starts up a propaganda news service, there's no way they can drown out, RT (Russia), PressTV (Iran), Al Jazeera, & Wikileaks.

It concerns me how tainted our media really is. Fox especially has been doing some BLATANT propaganda pieces lately, I mean they are using old footage of protests and running it as though it was the Wisconsin protest (palm trees in the back gave it away though), they routinely alter public opinion polls on their own website, tehy fgot caught splicing an audio track of "Boo's" into Obama's speach to mask the REAL audio which was of people applauding, and now it turns out that FOX PAYS FAKE CALLERS to call Hannity and Rush and act like crazy liberals. That's right, even the callers on the talk shoes are actors now, there is no turning back.


Literally the news is completely worthless in America now, I am ashamed to have learned this late in the game. After watching RT, Al Jazeera, Democracy now and some other places it is clear how controlled our media truly is. It just makes me sad to see this happening in America, I have to assume it's been like this for a while but to me it's all just happening for the first time so to see all of this blatant propaganda running on our air waves is just disheartening. I don't know if i'm young and therefore just learning of the corruption, or if it has been happening all along and I am only now seeing it, but my honest assesment of the world right now is that Fascism is creeping on our borders. I no longer worry about commies or liberals or terrorists, what I see happening is a corporate funded power grab that will result in Fascism if something isn't done.

[LincolnSnuff]

No, that isn't a credible threat. You don't need long range bombers to deal with primitives. You don't need nuclear subs to deal with primitives. You don't need aircraft carriers to deal with primitives either. 9-11 is the scare tactic the politicians, and the defense contractors that have them in their pockets use to justify their existence, and protect their money flow. The fact is our old shit is better than most people's new shit, and we don't need most of it if we don't sail around the world getting into other country's business where we don't belong. If we want to be imperialist ****s, at least be honest about it. Just take what is wanted, and stop wrapping everything up in a flag, and sng it's for "security".

The primatives? Great assessment. Enough said. Wasn't it the so called "primatives" that got us here? If we didn't need bombers, nukes, and subs to deal with them how did they attack us in the first place genius? Just suck on your portions and wait for the next attack bro.