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  • truthwolf1
    Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 2696

    #46
    Had some serious weekly insomnia issues myself and was also was prescribed Trazadone, but never tried it.
    Last week was the first time since last summer I had a bad night and I think it is definately something stress related that triggers the adrenal somehow. That adrenal surge of feeling wired which does not allow the brain to hit a dream induced knock out stage.

    I can sometimes tell early now if this will happen so in that case I just start drinking booze/mj and will fall asleep later then normal but with no problems usually. If I missed all the signs and hit the tossing/turning stage then I pop 1-2 benadryl's and hope for the best.

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    • c.nash
      Banned Users
      • May 2010
      • 3511

      #47
      I have problems falling asleep unless I'm totally beat, but I just deal with it. I sleep great on the weekends when I actually fall asleep.
      My problem is that my body wants to fall asleep at like 2-3am, but I wake up for work at 5am Mon-Fri. :/

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      • cobrageezer
        Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 155

        #48
        This is my fix at night. I have a bad case of tinitus and at times the ringing would keep me awake for hours. Ipod. There is a site called Librivox. Free recordings of public domain books, great stuff. There are a couple of readers that put me right out. I'm not mocking them or anything, but the tone and cadence of how they read puts me out.

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        • Rattlesnake
          Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 891

          #49
          Originally posted by cobrageezer
          This is my fix at night. I have a bad case of tinitus and at times the ringing would keep me awake for hours. Ipod. There is a site called Librivox. Free recordings of public domain books, great stuff. There are a couple of readers that put me right out. I'm not mocking them or anything, but the tone and cadence of how they read puts me out.
          Be very very careful. Those things are very addictive.

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          • timholian
            Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 1448

            #50
            When I find I can't get to sleep at night I do a couple of things.... Stop coffee/caffeine after 5pm and set my alarm for an hour to and hour and a half earlier than normal whether I feel like I need the sleep or not. I figured if my body didn't want to sleep when I wanted it to I would bully it into doing what I want it to do.
            And yes.... Your diet could be having an impact but that's another thread I think.

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            • Frosted
              Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 5798

              #51
              Learn to let go.

              No caffeine 6 hours before bed - cut down all liquid intake a few hours before bed as the more concentrate the sleep hormones in your cells the better. Meditate, and if you don't know how, make sure you do it properly. It's very very simple and easy.

              If that fails, the phrase 'f*** it' is excellent. I use it often and then I get as pissed as a fart.

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              • Frosted
                Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 5798

                #52
                Originally posted by danielan View Post
                True, you could wake up the wife.

                That helps me.

                I wouldn't go near that with yours. It keeps making horrible screamy shi**ing things that keep you awake all night.
                NEVER again.

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                • timholian
                  Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 1448

                  #53
                  Originally posted by danielan View Post
                  So... You're suggesting a detox diet?
                  LOL ummmm no, simply implying diet seems to be covered pretty well whether it be BS diets or actual information in another thread. Lol

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                  • WickedKitchen
                    Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 2528

                    #54
                    Originally posted by danielan View Post
                    True, you could wake up the wife.

                    That helps me.
                    She doesn't actually have to be awake...sometimes is complicates things.

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                    • Crow
                      Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 4312

                      #55
                      I'm a medical cannabis patient that suffers from several ailments.

                      When I'm having trouble sleeping, I use certain strains that work wonders (a nice, relaxing deep sleep and waking up feeling refreshed).

                      Keep in mind, you don't have to smoke cannabis to receive its medicine. You can eat or drink it too. Even topicals and tinctures.

                      Anyways, I thought I would share what works for me.

                      I hope you find relief for your insomnia.

                      -----------------------------------

                      Originally posted by danielan View Post
                      Can't sleep = you should smoke pot? Seriously? My wife can't keep my house clean... Maybe she should start taking meth...
                      Cannabis = Meth? SERIOUSLY?
                      I have to admit though, your response to the other users gave me a good laugh (must be a side effect from the medicine )
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                      • precious007
                        Banned Users
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 5885

                        #56
                        sleeping is related to diet, exercise, sex life and all the elements for well being.....

                        I was reading somewhere that the most often cause for insomnia is stress................yep I guess the 21th century has a negative impact on most of us......... luckily I do get sleep and don't have problems falling asleep anymore ........

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                        • fishmeat
                          Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 767

                          #57
                          Its 8:15am here in Hell's Waiting Room...I've been off work since 7am. I came home, fired up iTunes and started playing some Floyd. I'm on beer five and after a pinch of Toque Vanilla and a prilla of General ES lös...I gotta say I'm a little bit confused...sometimes it seems to me, as is if I'm just being used. Work has been taking a toll on me, it has been a madhouse in there. I have always worked nights since I was 14. I'm thinking that 16 years of nights, graveyard shifts, 7+ days in a row have finally gotten to my body. At first it was easy to work nights and over night.

                          I took (was forced) to take Ritalin and then Adderall from age 4 until I was 15. And due to 11 years of being force fed amphetamines & methamphetamines it gave me nasty insomnia. There are times that it flairs up bad...like really bad. Like right now sadly for you the user reading this.

                          I absolutely hate being at work overnight for 12-16 hours and when you get home you are full of energy, yet tired and demotivated to not do much. I suffer from a condition I call "Sun-Uppers", which isn't real...its just what I call what happens to me. For those playing along at home there is a medical condition called "Sun Downers" in where a person, after the sun has/or is setting they start to get rather loopy. Well Sun Uppers is kinda like that, except the sun is rising, you can't sleep because of the energy or insomnia, your body says "hey the suns up, you should stay awake" all at the same time you get this like almost intoxicated feeling.

                          I have this rule I try to stick by when I am experiencing this, try to go to sleep by 9am. But sadly enough sometimes its just not that easy. I really think the pills for 11 years has farked me up inside.

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                          • Ansel
                            Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 3696

                            #58
                            Short of trying what has been suggested already you could try passiflora.

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                            • sgreger1
                              Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 9451

                              #59
                              What is passiflora? Says the man who responds to a reply on a year old thread.

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                              • Ansel
                                Member
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 3696

                                #60
                                Originally posted by sgreger1
                                What is passiflora? Says the man who responds to a reply on a year old thread.
                                It's the passion flower.

                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passifl...theogenic_uses

                                Medical and entheogenic uses
                                Chrysin, a commercially important flavone found in the blue passion flower, P. caerulea
                                Harman, a harmala alkaloid found in many species of Passiflora

                                P. incarnata (maypop) leaves and roots have a long history of use among Native Americans in North America and were adapted by the European colonists. The fresh or dried leaves of maypop are used to make a tea that is used to treat insomnia, hysteria, and epilepsy, and is also valued for its analgesic properties.[9] P. edulis (passion fruit) and a few other species are used in Central and South America for similar purposes. Once dried, the leaves can also be smoked.

                                Many species have been found to contain beta-carboline harmala alkaloids,[10][11] which are MAO inhibitors with anti-depressant properties. The flower and fruit have only traces of these chemicals, but the leaves and the roots are often more potent and have been used to potentiate the effects of mind-altering drugs. The most common of these alkaloids is harman (1-methyl-9H-b-carboline), but harmaline (4,9-Dihydro-7-methoxy-1-methyl-3H-pyrido[3,4-b]indole), harmalol (1-methyl-2,3,4,9-tetrahydropyrido[3,4-b]indol-7-one), harmine (7-Methoxy-1-methyl-9H-pyrido[3,4-b]indole) and harmol[clarification needed] were found.[10][11] The species known to bear such alkaloids include: P. actinea, P. alata (winged-stem passion flower), P. alba, P. bryonioides (cupped passion flower), P. caerulea (blue passion flower), P. capsularis, P. decaisneana, P. edulis (passion fruit), P. eichleriana, P. foetida (stinking passion flower), P. incarnata (maypop), P. quadrangularis (giant granadilla), P. ruberosa, P. subpeltata and P. warmingii.[10][11]

                                Other compounds found in passion flowers are coumarins (e.g. scopoletin and umbelliferone), maltol, phytosterols (e.g. lutenin) and cyanogenic glycosides (e.g. gynocardin) which render some species, i.e. P. adenopoda, somewhat poisonous. Many flavonoids and their glycosides have been found in Passiflora, including apigenin, benzoflavone[disambiguation needed], homoorientin, 7-isoorientin, isoshaftoside, isovitexin (or saponaretin), kaempferol, lucenin, luteolin, n-orientin, passiflorine (named after the genus), quercetin, rutin, saponarin, shaftoside, vicenin and vitexin. Maypop, Blue Passion Flower (P. caerulea), and perhaps others contain chrysin, a flavone with confirmed anxiolytic and anti-inflammatory, supposed aromatase inhibitor properties. Also documented to occur at least in some Passiflora in quantity are the hydrocarbon nonacosane and the anthocyanidin pelargonidin-3-diglycoside.[10][11][12]

                                As regards organic acids, the genus is rich in formic, butyric, linoleic, linolenic, malic, myristic, oleic and palmitic acids as well as phenolic compounds, and the amino acid α-alanine. Esters like ethyl butyrate, ethyl caproate, n-hexyl butyrate and n-hexyl caproate give the fruits their flavor and appetizing smell. Sugars, contained mainly in the fruit, are most significantly d-fructose, d-glucose and raffinose. Among enzymes, Passiflora was found to be rich in catalase, pectin methylesterase and phenolase.[10][11]

                                The medical utility of very few species of Passiflora has been scientifically studied.[11] In initial trials for treatment of generalized anxiety disorder, maypop extract performed as well as oxazepam but with fewer short-term side effects. It was recommended to follow up with long-term studies.[13] In another study performed on mice, it was shown that Passiflora alata has a genotoxic effect on cells, and further research was recommended before this one species is considered safe for human consumption.[14]

                                Passionflower herb (Passiflorae herba) from P. incarnata is official in the European Pharmacopoeia. The herbal drug should contain not less than 1.5% total flavonoids expressed as vitexin. It is used in sedative tea mixtures with other calming herbs.

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