Man killed wife and daughters because of Champix anti smoking tablets.

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  • Frosted
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    • Mar 2010
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    #16
    Surely if you were a psychopath, after killing your wife and kids you wouldn't commit suicide because you wouldn't give a damn.

    Don't psychopaths have problems feeling emotion?

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    • muddyfunkstar
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      • Aug 2010
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      #17
      Originally posted by EricHill78 View Post
      What a sad story.. i feel bad for the family..

      Id rather smoke than have those side effects that's horrible.. it seems a lot of these medications the side effects are worse than the actual problem the medication is supposed to address.
      Some of side effects listed on the anti-depressants I used to take were:

      Anxiety
      Insomnia
      Mood swings
      Suicidal Thoughts

      So, pretty much the symptoms I was experiencing before I started taking the things.

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      • precious007
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        • Sep 2010
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        #18
        @Frosted

        Psychopats do kill themselves and there's quite a high number that end up killing themselves (and less actually commiting homicide)

        here's two documentaries with psychopats - you might want to watch.

        http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/i-psychopath/
        http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/psychopath/ (this psychopat that was a millionaire and lives a normal confy life.... he doesn't look like a psycho to me lol ..........the video is a bit funny loool)

        Don't psychopaths have problems feeling emotion?
        yes that's true, but in depression you can not feel emotions either (especially in severe depression)

        for example I haven't been able to stick to a relationship and love someone ever since I've been diagnosted with depression.....

        psychopats are a bit different, they don't feel any type of emotions not even for their family members, and there is one characteristic they all have - They lie a lot and they have hallucinations and desillusions.

        watch the movies if you get the time it's quite interesting (by the way 2 in 100 are psychopats)

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        • Frosted
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          • Mar 2010
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          #19
          I'll take your word for it lol - I've probably met loads of them and considered it normal.

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          • precious007
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            • Sep 2010
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            #20
            Originally posted by Frosted View Post
            I'll take your word for it lol - I've probably met loads of them and considered it normal.
            LMAO.

            At lot of top executives and top managers are psychopats. you'll never even notice just by walking by then..... all that might make you realize they're psychopats is the fact that you're not allowed to contradict them in any way...... they're very Narcisist and they always feel hunted ..... so they are probably most likely to get mad at you. (the typical OLD BOSS that shouts about at his employees)

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            • Frosted
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              • Mar 2010
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              #21
              Do you know my boss? It sure sounds like it.

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              • timholian
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                • Apr 2010
                • 1448

                #22
                My mom used Chantix to quit smoking more than a year ago (she smokes again of course) and tried to talk me into trying it (this was before REAL snus) I did some digging on the ol' interwebz and found people talking about all kinds of scarey side effects so, I didnt bother to try them.
                But it seems to me this is a perfect example of ones personal body chemistry reacting differently to pharma.

                How about that harm reduction now tobacco nazis...... a bunch of fu king twatting mongs, I swear.

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                • precious007
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                  • Sep 2010
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Frosted View Post
                  Do you know my boss? It sure sounds like it.
                  it's very likely that he is a psychopat if you watch those documentaries then you can test him

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                  • Frosted
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                    • Mar 2010
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by timholian View Post
                    a bunch of fu king twatting mongs, I swear.
                    ROFLMAO - how English is THAT? lol!

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                    • Roo
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                      • Jun 2008
                      • 3446

                      #25
                      I read that as "kung fu twatting monks" the first couple times.

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                      • sgreger1
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                        • Mar 2009
                        • 9451

                        #26
                        This is really part of a much broader issue. The fact is that for whatever reason a huge segment of the population has some kind of mental/psych problem but most go undiagnosed. When people start taking anti-depressants or things like chantix that RELLY mess with your brain chemistry, or when the patient starts taking illicit drugs, you suddenly notice it brings out the crazy that was previously lying dormant in people.

                        We have 2 problems here:

                        *1 is rampant un-diagnosed or mis-diagnosed mental illness prevlent in the general population.
                        *The other is that we have began mass-prescribing drugs that don't have adequate testing on the long term effects to the general public, so we are prescribing meds that change your brain chemistry to people who alreday have underlying issues, which may lead to those issues surfacing and becoming unmanageable.


                        I've lived my whole life on edge, there have been so many times where the line between what you know you should do and what you feel like doing are two completely seperate things. I think a lot of people live on this border due to how we operate as a society nowadays, and I think sometimes people just get pushed a little too far and end up making that leap from "feeling violent" to acting on it.

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                        • Frosted
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                          • Mar 2010
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by sgreger1
                          This is really part of a much broader issue. The fact is that for whatever reason a huge segment of the population has some kind of mental/psych problem but most go undiagnosed. When people start taking anti-depressants or things like chantix that RELLY mess with your brain chemistry, or when the patient starts taking illicit drugs, you suddenly notice it brings out the crazy that was previously lying dormant in people.

                          We have 2 problems here:

                          *1 is rampant un-diagnosed or mis-diagnosed mental illness prevlent in the general population.
                          *The other is that we have began mass-prescribing drugs that don't have adequate testing on the long term effects to the general public, so we are prescribing meds that change your brain chemistry to people who alreday have underlying issues, which may lead to those issues surfacing and becoming unmanageable.


                          I've lived my whole life on edge, there have been so many times where the line between what you know you should do and what you feel like doing are two completely seperate things. I think a lot of people live on this border due to how we operate as a society nowadays, and I think sometimes people just get pushed a little too far and end up making that leap from "feeling violent" to acting on it.
                          You make an excellent point.

                          I battle against that aggression every day. Remember in the infantry Sgreger they turned us into rabid violent lunatic killing machines and now we're civilians we're expected to unlearn that?
                          Every day I want to kill somebody but I don't - and I really think that it's my family that stops me from doing that. I honestly reckon that if I were single and had nothing to lose - I'd go for it. But make no mistake - I love my family more than anything and I'd certainly never ever harm my kids. Hearing about anybody that's done something to children really gets to me hard.

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                          • precious007
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                            • Sep 2010
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                            #28
                            Remember in the infantry Sgreger they turned us into rabid violent lunatic killing machines and now we're civilians we're expected to unlearn that?
                            how was that I mean did you actually get involve in any war ?

                            just wondering......

                            I personally wouldn't stand killing people even if I was in the army that why I didn't want to attend the army loool

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                            • Frosted
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                              • Mar 2010
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by precious007 View Post
                              how was that I mean did you actually get involve in any war ?

                              just wondering......

                              I personally wouldn't stand killing people even if I was in the army that why I didn't want to attend the army loool
                              No I didn't go to war but the British Army constantly train you every single day as if you are going to war tomorrow.
                              I went to Bosnia with UNPROFOR but that's peace keeping (i.e. a load of sh**e).
                              I would have no problem whatsoever in killing somebody that wanted to kill me.

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                              • precious007
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Frosted View Post
                                No I didn't go to war but the British Army constantly train you every single day as if you are going to war tomorrow.
                                I went to Bosnia with UNPROFOR but that's peace keeping (i.e. a load of sh**e).
                                I would have no problem whatsoever in killing somebody that wanted to kill me.
                                I wouldn't either

                                If someone wanted to kill me then I respond back

                                This remembered me of The Gotfather when Fredo wanted to kill Michael (his brother) and in the end

                                Michael had him killed in that boat.............

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