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  • sgreger1
    Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 9451

    #16
    Originally posted by lxskllr View Post
    The "just following orders" defense was invalidated at Nuremberg. It is the cops fault. Are you really surprised? Theft is one of the lighter crimes they engage in. You're lucky you don't get shot :^S


    Marine survives two tours in Iraq, comes home and is killed by SWAT team raiding his house for drugs. There were no drugs in his house.

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    • Experimental Monkey
      Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 795

      #17
      I am in law enforcement myself and I have never seen any of these accusations in my agency. Paranoia is running wild. Do not buy in. We could not legally come into your home without a court mandated warrant and then beat you half to death or throw the book at you with unfounded crimes or some of the other junk I've read here. If we did we wouldn't be in business much longer.

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      • sgreger1
        Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 9451

        #18
        Originally posted by triplethreat675 View Post
        Wow, coming from someone working in this field, These allegations are astonishing. I am disgusted by these officers behavior. I am lucky to work with a bunch of solid morally sound officers here in WI. It's incredibly frustrating to see this. It's this kinda B******T that makes the rest of us well intentioned LEOs look bad, not to mention making our jobs much more dangerous. If the general public thinks just because I wear a badge I will conduct myself like some of these yahoos, theres no limit to what they may do to get away, or prevent me from doing my job. With the advent of video cameras everywhere and lightning fast media sharing, Im amazed that these officers are still acting so far out of line...


        That is why in so many states they have fought to make it illegal to videotape a police officer, even during a routine traffic stop. My aunt is a sherrif and I have a few friends who are police officers, so I realize it's not everyone (I wanted to be a police officer at one time), but especially living in a big city like san francisco or Los Angeles has absolutely ruined the idea of "law enforcement" in my mind. My friends house gets shot up, yah that'll be an hour wait. But if you should be going 5 over the speed limit than you bet your ass they have time to come regulate on your ass immediately.

        I have lived in several bad neighborhoods where criminals are constantly a problem, but you know what? I would rather deal with them than the police, and the police do nothing to make the ghetto safer for regular people, they just partake in the same drug trafficking and crime that the poor people do, they just do it in a more organized fashion.

        (Glad to hear your one of the good ones though, NonServiam is also one of the good ones and I hope there are more out there like you, I guess they just don't like working in any of the cities I live in lol.)


        Plainclothes cops jump out of van, snatch up 12-year-old girl, beat her during a prostitution raid. They had the wrong house. They're now charging *her* with "assaulting a public official."

        Turning the Camera: Why Are Cops Allowed to Film Citizens, But Citizens Not Allowed to Film Police Brutality?

        Cops threaten girl, 23, to turn informant or face 5 yr jail term for posessing weed--they give her 13K and tell her to buy drugs and a gun from dealers she never met. She's dead now

        Guy breaks into someone's home, punches homeowner in the face, but runs when the homeowner shows a gun. The burglar then has two of his friends torch the home. The HOMEOWNER is charged with assaulting the burglar. Why? The burglar's dad - and brothers - are all cops.



        Cops accidentally shoot homeowner when responding to home invasion call. Six times in the back. And then the cover up starts. Too bad 911 recorded it all.

        Plain-clothes cops snoop around man's house without a warrant, leave his gate open, kill his dog when it runs out, then charge *him* with "assault with a deadly weapon" --his dead dog.


        Cops beat 84 year old man for placing drunk driver under citizen's arrest.

        Proposed California bill would make it legal for cops to do a warrantless search if they suspect that the location may have pirated goods. Fourth Amendment much?

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        • Fazer
          Member
          • May 2011
          • 663

          #19
          Originally posted by angrylollipop View Post
          Police should be avoided at all cost. NEVER CALL THEM, NEVER INVITE THEM INTO YOUR HOME, NEVER TALK BACK TO THEM, NEVER TEMPT THEM, NEVER TOUCH THEM, NEVER RUN FROM THEM. They will **** your life up forever.
          + 1

          No such thing as a good cop!

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          • sgreger1
            Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 9451

            #20
            Originally posted by Experimental Monkey View Post
            I am in law enforcement myself and I have never seen any of these accusations in my agency. Paranoia is running wild. Do not buy in. We could not legally come into your home without a court mandated warrant and then beat you half to death or throw the book at you with unfounded crimes or some of the other junk I've read here. If we did we wouldn't be in business much longer.
            Well while I am glad to hear that your department hasn't caught on yet, there are many states where the laws do allow such things.

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            • TheJanitor
              Member
              • May 2010
              • 260

              #21
              Sure, every profession has bad apples, but "no such thing as a good cop!"?????? Gimme a break people, I'm sure most are decent honest professionals. Would you all feel safer with no law enforcement whatsoever? Please....if your house is broken into, if someone rapes your wife, I'm sure you all would refrain from calling the police.....

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              • nicodude
                Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 688

                #22
                Originally posted by TheJanitor View Post
                Please....if your house is broken into, if someone rapes your wife, I'm sure you all would refrain from calling the police.....
                Yes, I would refrain from calling the police because of how they would respond after I put the barrel of my .45 ACP down the offenders throat and emptied the magazine into his guts... (if it was the rape this would be after I cut his junk off and eviscerated him)

                I'm sorry, I try to be a good upstanding guy and all that but if you come into my house uninvited and/or threaten/do harm to my family or someone I love, I don't care what the cops do or don't do becaue I'm going to f*cking kill you first.

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                • lxskllr
                  Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 13435

                  #23
                  Originally posted by TheJanitor View Post
                  Would you all feel safer with no law enforcement whatsoever? Please....if your house is broken into, if someone rapes your wife, I'm sure you all would refrain from calling the police.....
                  I'd feel safer if my Constitutional right to bear arms were fully unrestrained. I have little use for a note taker. My house would be burgled, and wife raped despite the cop's existence. Problems are best handled immediately.

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                  • nicodude
                    Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 688

                    #24
                    Originally posted by lxskllr
                    I'd feel safer if my Constitutional right to bear arms were fully unrestrained. I have little use for a note taker. My house would be burgled, and wife raped despite the cop's existence. Problems are best handled immediately.
                    Amen to that brother! Stay armed and stay strong!

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                    • triplethreat675
                      Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 64

                      #25
                      In the state of Wisconsin we have a one party consent recording clause. I actually invite citizens to record me. I train tirelessly and Im confident in my traing and ethics. So at the end of the day any recordings that do exist are only going to help my case. I do know officers that absolutely hate being recorded but when I remind them that they too record via dashcam and audio recorders they tend to see the issue differently.

                      Its amazing that some states make it criminal to record LEO activity.

                      If your agency is hurting for cash clean up your act show the community the value in your force, and they will be more than generous when asked to help out. Our dept. just started a K-9 program, but the county refused to foot the bill. Through community donations in two weeks we had close to $60k bought two K9 squads, dogs, two months training for two officers, and all the necessary accesories to sustain the unit for the first 6 months.

                      Sure am glad I work in WI.

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                      • Owens187
                        Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 1547

                        #26
                        Originally posted by nicodude
                        Yes, I would refrain from calling the police because of how they would respond after I put the barrel of my .45 ACP down the offenders throat and emptied the magazine into his guts... (if it was the rape this would be after I cut his junk off and eviscerated him)

                        I'm sorry, I try to be a good upstanding guy and all that but if you come into my house uninvited and/or threaten/do harm to my family or someone I love, I don't care what the cops do or don't do becaue I'm going to f*cking kill you first.

                        This. Completely and totally this.

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                        • Bigblue1
                          Banned Users
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 3923

                          #27
                          Originally posted by lxskllr
                          I'd feel safer if my Constitutional right to bear arms were fully unrestrained. I have little use for a note taker. My house would be burgled, and wife raped despite the cop's existence. Problems are best handled immediately.
                          Couldn't have put it better myself. Really, when was the last time a cop prevented a true crime? Uhhh, never...... But they do write tickets real well......

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                          • mh_logic
                            Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 61

                            #28



                            http://www.flexyourrights.org


                            It's funny that whenever I'm in the presence of the police I automatically feel like a criminal. Even when I've done absolutely nothing wrong. Cops use intimidation tactics, power, and coercion to treat citizens as criminals. Unchecked power in any form (even on a small, local scale) leads to corruption, oppression, and racism.

                            I'm right on board with lx and nicodude. However, I'm not really pro-gun (as a personal choice) but I am definitely pro Second Amendment. If we want to keep our rights (what few we have) we need to use them or risk losing them. Our laws and (most of) the people who write them and enforce them are completely ****ed up. I.e. Let's spend millions of federal taxpayer dollars to raid medical marijuana dispensaries and charge terminally ill patients with felonies. While, it's completely legal under state law to possess and use their choice of medicine.

                            It's up to the people to exercise their rights as American citizens and blow up the reign of tyranny that wants to enslave us.


                            I understand that there are a few officers who enter law enforcement to protect their community. I'm glad we have a couple of them participating in this forum and I hope you serve as positive examples to your colleagues and your communities.

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                            • ProudMarineDad
                              Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 573

                              #29
                              Originally posted by triplethreat675 View Post
                              In the state of Wisconsin we have a one party consent recording clause. I actually invite citizens to record me. I train tirelessly and Im confident in my traing and ethics. So at the end of the day any recordings that do exist are only going to help my case. I do know officers that absolutely hate being recorded but when I remind them that they too record via dashcam and audio recorders they tend to see the issue differently.

                              Its amazing that some states make it criminal to record LEO activity.

                              If your agency is hurting for cash clean up your act show the community the value in your force, and they will be more than generous when asked to help out. Our dept. just started a K-9 program, but the county refused to foot the bill. Through community donations in two weeks we had close to $60k bought two K9 squads, dogs, two months training for two officers, and all the necessary accesories to sustain the unit for the first 6 months.

                              Sure am glad I work in WI.
                              Even though I don't live in WI, thank you for your service to your community.

                              As far as the people that have bad mouthed law enforcement officers, I am appalled but not surprised to your comments. My son is a police officer and puts his life on the line everyday. I hear some of the stories about the way people treat them. It makes me sick.

                              I don't post here much anymore but it is threads like this that is the reason. I usually don't even read the threads that have headers like this and wish I hadn't opened this one because I am highly offended by it.

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                              • TheJanitor
                                Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 260

                                #30
                                Originally posted by ProudMarineDad View Post
                                Even though I don't live in WI, thank you for your service to your community.

                                As far as the people that have bad mouthed law enforcement officers, I am appalled but not surprised to your comments. My son is a police officer and puts his life on the line everyday. I hear some of the stories about the way people treat them. It makes me sick.

                                I don't post here much anymore but it is threads like this that is the reason. I usually don't even read the threads that have headers like this and wish I hadn't opened this one because I am highly offended by it.
                                +1,000,000 I totally agree, and I thank your son for his service to our country as a marine and his service to the citizens he tries to serve and protect every day as a police officer. People say things to sound tough on he internet, but he proves it every day when he goes to work. Everyone is assuming they would be present when these crimes are committed, but if they weren't they certainly would lack the financial and forensic tools to find the people responsible. I have guns too, and would use them if I had to, but I am grown up enough not to get on here and post cowboy sh*t.

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