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  • Nate5700
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    • May 2011
    • 58

    #16
    It's only depressing to me when I think about how far we still have to go technologically to explore the stars. The fact that there is still this vast frontier to be explored is actually incredibly cool, it's too bad I most likely won't be around once we're advanced enough to get there.

    A person can think about the vastness of space and feel really insignificant, but if you really think about it, how did all this stuff get here, why do we exist at all? You look at it and you can't help but realize how incredibly cool it is that we're even alive, at least that's how it is for me. And the fact that we're still so far away from colonizing other planets means to we have to take care of the one we've got for now.

    Sorry to get all philosophical on you guys.

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    • AtreyuKun
      Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 1223

      #17
      I have no doubt I'll live to see a manned Mars mission. My great great grandchildren's great grandchildren will never see an intergalactic mission. I've always said I wanted to go into space or another planet, but leaving the earth would actually probably give me a heartattack.

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      • GN Tobacco Sweden AB
        Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 7035

        #18
        During 50 - 70 years or so We achived à LOT , Huble and Kepler , better knowlige of black holes We even now, There is 900 planets surounding other stars which We discovered now imagin 50 years later where We Will be
        Why We are here? There is Simple explanation ...... For Extreme snus ..... Now not serios :We are here Becouse Of ?????????????

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        • Nate5700
          Member
          • May 2011
          • 58

          #19
          Originally posted by GN Tobacco Sweden AB View Post
          Why We are here? There is Simple explanation ...... For Extreme snus ..... Now not serios :We are here Becouse Of ?????????????
          Well I'm not going to get preachy on you guys but I am something of a religious person so I have an opinion on this question.

          Of course, there's a hypothesis, and I can't explain the nitty-gritty details of it because it's over my head, but it states that according to our current understanding of physics, it is possible for matter to spontaneously arise from nothing.

          Of course, the next question then is "where did the laws of physics come from?" It could be that the laws of physics just "are", but, maybe not.

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          • Snussles
            Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 108

            #20
            Astronomy is too slow of a study to actually be that interesting. Travel to a planet takes forever, travel to other planets takes even more forever. It's like, you can study all you want, but only your grand-grand-grand-etc. kids might actually be able to go any further beyond pretty pictures.

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            • GN Tobacco Sweden AB
              Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 7035

              #21
              What if We Can move space to us ??? Not Travel but make space Travel to us???

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              • AtreyuKun
                Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 1223

                #22
                Originally posted by GN Tobacco Sweden AB View Post
                What if We Can move space to us ??? Not Travel but make space Travel to us???
                Alcubierre drive. Warp drive for you nerds out there. I suck at math, but apparently the math is there. A ship bending the fabric of space and time requires something with a little more kick than a 6 pack of AA's. They say what is required to power it would be "exotic matter". Typically, we(I) think of anti-matter, but it's insanely expensive to produce; about 25 billion per gram. It makes my head hurt when the subject of of tachyon's come up. They say in order to maintain the warp bubble in which our ship would be safe, you'd have to move whatever exotic matter you're using faster than the speed of light locally onboard the ship. One problem that could arise as a result is the creation of a naked singularity at the front of the bubble. And that would probablly put a damper on your trip. There's so much working against the idea, but there's something to be said for dreaming.
                I find it a fascinating topic. I'm just excited that scientists can actually talk about this these days.
                I love this stuff. Keep it going!

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                • GN Tobacco Sweden AB
                  Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 7035

                  #23
                  Originally posted by AtreyuKun View Post
                  Alcubierre drive. Warp drive for you nerds out there. I suck at math, but apparently the math is there. A ship bending the fabric of space and time requires something with a little more kick than a 6 pack of AA's. They say what is required to power it would be "exotic matter". Typically, we(I) think of anti-matter, but it's insanely expensive to produce; about 25 billion per gram. It makes my head hurt when the subject of of tachyon's come up. They say in order to maintain the warp bubble in which our ship would be safe, you'd have to move whatever exotic matter you're using faster than the speed of light locally onboard the ship. One problem that could arise as a result is the creation of a naked singularity at the front of the bubble. And that would probablly put a damper on your trip. Ther's so much working against the idea, but there's something to be said for dreaming.
                  I find it a fascinating topic. I'm just excited that scientists can actually talk about this these days.
                  I love this stuff. Keep it going!
                  I have heard brother to make happen it space ship will need a power of plane Jupiter i can not explain right in english but lets say if our speceship would have an angine like hole planet Jupiter we could make spece to come to the ship it is like we stay and stars coming to us

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                  • AtreyuKun
                    Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1223

                    #24
                    Originally posted by GN Tobacco Sweden AB View Post
                    I have heard brother to make happen it space ship will need a power of plane Jupiter i can not explain right in english but lets say if our speceship would have an angine like hole planet Jupiter we could make spece to come to the ship it is like we stay and stars coming to us
                    Yes, I have heard the same thing. Nothing we have now could power an engine like that. I heard something about finding a way to harvest naturual anti-matter. Then we could actually experiment with it.

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                    • GN Tobacco Sweden AB
                      Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 7035

                      #25
                      Yes what à energi it Can give and actualy in colider in Switzerland two weeks ago they anounced that it has been discovered antimatter in That tasts in colider

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                      • Frosted
                        Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 5798

                        #26
                        I think if we travelled at the speed of light, by the time we reached the edge of our galaxy we'd be dead.

                        We need to be able to fold space and time. There are about 11 dimensions to play with and a lot of maths/drugs.

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                        • ChaoticGemini
                          Member
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 564

                          #27
                          Wow, you guays are actually having a serious conversation. I thought this was going to be another thread about Oden's extreme being "out of this world" or something.

                          I can't say I'm up on all the astronomy news, but I find it fascinating to hear what they find and the projects they are working on. The science/discovery channel drives me crazy with the over-hyped dialog. I find I have to sit through an hour of propaganda to get 5 minutes of facts. Then again, that could be my reformed journalist coming out. As far as science shows go, my favorite is Science Friday on NPR. http://sciencefriday.com/ They have podcast of the show now too that make it much more convenient than being by the radio on a Friday afternoon.

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                          • Darwin
                            Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 1372

                            #28
                            Even if we had the math in hand today it could be centuries before we could ever marshall the obscene power levels needed to do anything approaching the "warping" of space. Could be tomorrow too but it's a sucker bet for this century and likely for the next one as well. Antimatter, dark matter, dark energy, whatever, if ever, that does the trick will likely require stupendous energy levels merely to access let alone productively utilize. I'm thinking 23rd or 24th century at least, if even then of course.

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                            • precious007
                              Banned Users
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 5885

                              #29
                              time is only an illusion, a man made measurement...

                              i still believe the only way to travel in the universe will be possible once the technology will advance ... or as they say some people are able to travel in space or time during OBD...

                              i was just reading a book with Masters from China that are able to travel thousands of miles in a matter of seconds (i am still skeptical though)

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                              • GN Tobacco Sweden AB
                                Member
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 7035

                                #30
                                "The largest galaxy on record resides inside the Abell 2029 cluster, 1.07 billion light years away in the constellation of Serpens. Designated as IC 1101, the monstrous giant elliptical galaxy measures a whopping 6 million light years (as compared to the 100,000 light years of the Milky Way) in diameter and is said to be at least 60 times as large as the Milky Way. It also contains about 100 trillion stars (200-400 billion for the Milky Way)." it would be nice to sell some snus in that Galaxy

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