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  • snusgetter
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    • May 2010
    • 10903

    Tobacco Companies Sue Federal Government...

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    Tobacco Companies Sue Federal Government Over Graphic Warnings

    COLUMBIA, S.C. — Four of the five largest U.S. tobacco companies sued the federal government Tuesday over new graphic cigarette labels that include the sewn-up corpse of a smoker and a picture of diseased lungs, saying the warnings violate their free speech rights and will cost millions of dollars to print.

    The companies, led by R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co., Lorillard Tobacco Co., said the warnings no longer simply convey facts to allow people to make a decision whether to smoke. They instead force them to put government anti-smoking advocacy more prominently on their packs than their own brands, the companies say. They want a judge to stop the labels.

    "Never before in the United States have producers of a lawful product been required to use their own packaging and advertising to convey an emotionally-charged government message urging adult consumers to shun their products," the companies wrote in the lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington, D.C.

    The FDA refused to comment, saying the agency does not discuss pending litigation. But when she announced the new labels in June, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius called them frank and honest warnings about the dangers of smoking.

    The FDA approved nine new warnings to rotate on cigarette packs. They will be printed on the entire top half, front and back, of the packaging. The new warnings also must constitute 20 percent of any cigarette advertising. They also all include a number for a stop-smoking hotline.

    One warning label is a picture of a corpse with its chest sewed up and the words: "Smoking can kill you." Another label has a picture of a healthy pair of lungs beside a yellow and black pair with a warning that smoking causes fatal lung disease.

    The lawsuit said the images were manipulated to be especially emotional. The tobacco companies said the corpse photo is actually an actor with a fake scar, while the healthy lungs were sanitized to make the diseased organ look worse.

    The companies also said the new labels will cost them millions of dollars for new equipment so they can frequently change from warning to warning and designers to make sure the labels meet federal requirements while maintaining some distinction among brands.

    Joining R.J. Reynolds and Lorillard in the suit are Commonwealth Brands Inc., Liggett Group LLC and Santa Fe Natural Tobacco Company Inc. Altria Group Inc., parent company of the nation's largest cigarette maker, Philip Morris USA, is not a part of the lawsuit.

    The free speech lawsuit is a different action than a suit by several of the same companies over the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act. The law, which took affect two years ago, cleared the way for the more graphic warning labels, but also allowed the FDA to limit nicotine. The law also banned tobacco companies from sponsoring athletic or social events and prevented them from giving away free samples or branded merchandise.

    A federal judge upheld many parts of the law, but the companies are appealing.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_928900.html


    3 of the new labels to take effect September 2012:


  • snusjus
    Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 2674

    #2
    I remember seeing graphic warnings on cigarette packs in Canada. Personally, I thought they looked pretty cool. I'm sure rebellious teenagers will see cigarettes as even more badass when these labels roll out in America.

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    • snusgetter
      Member
      • May 2010
      • 10903

      #3
      Originally posted by snusjus
      ... I'm sure rebellious teenagers will see cigarettes as even more badass when these labels roll out in America.

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      • c.nash
        Banned Users
        • May 2010
        • 3511

        #4
        Originally posted by snusgetter
        That's badass. Haha

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        • sgreger1
          Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 9451

          #5
          I kind of agree with them, I mean I don't think anyone actually thinks smoking isn't bad for you at this point so the warnings are sort of stupid.

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          • Mrobin52
            Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 109

            #6
            It seems to me like the FDA is just perfectly content wasting time and money on stuff like this. There is no good science behind the use of more "extreme" warning labels, it is just a result of pressure from lobbyists. In fact I think I remember reading somewhere that when they did this in Canada, for the first year smoking rates actually increased. As far as I know they never reached a subsequent decrease either, they simply leveled out.

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            • Thraxy
              Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 194

              #7
              I have to say, lowering the nicotine level in cigs isn't going to solve anything. You'll just get smokers that smoke MORE cigarettes. And in the end, it is the tar that kills you. It would make more sense to UP the nic content.

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              • snusjus
                Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 2674

                #8
                Originally posted by Thraxy
                It would make more sense to UP the nic content.
                THIS.

                I remember reading about the tobacco industry's attempt to make ultra low tar, high nicotine cigarettes, so smokers would inhale fewer byproducts of combustion. From my understanding, it never was implemented into a product.

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                • snusgetter
                  Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 10903

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Thraxy
                  I have to say, lowering the nicotine level in cigs isn't going to solve anything. You'll just get smokers that smoke MORE cigarettes. And in the end, it is the tar that kills you. It would make more sense to UP the nic content.
                  Yep...
                  Nicotine Effects

                  Research suggests that, when smokers wish to achieve a stimulating effect, they take short quick puffs, which produce a low level of blood nicotine. This stimulates nerve transmission. When they wish to relax, they take deep puffs, which produce a high level of blood nicotine, which depresses the passage of nerve impulses, producing a mild sedative effect.

                  At low doses, nicotine potently enhances the actions of norepinephrine and dopamine in the brain, causing a drug effect typical of those of psychostimulants. At higher doses, nicotine enhances the effect of serotonin and opiate activity, producing a calming, pain-killing effect. Nicotine is unique in comparison to most drugs, as its profile changes from stimulant to sedative/pain killer in increasing dosages and use.

                  http://www.news-medical.net/health/N...e-Effects.aspx
                  Now, here's the rub ... trying to make sense out of nonsense (i.e., political no sense)...
                  Originally posted by snusjus
                  I remember reading about the tobacco industry's attempt to make ultra low tar, high nicotine cigarettes, so smokers would inhale fewer byproducts of combustion. From my understanding, it never was implemented into a product.

                  BOHICA = Bend Over, Here It Comes Again


                  They've only just begun frutzing around with snus!!

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                  • EricHill78
                    Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 4253

                    #10
                    I agree with the tobacco companies on this one. Everyone knows the dangers of smoking. If someone is bothered by the images they'll just pick up a neat cigarette holder or tin.

                    Snusgetter, I've missed your interesting story threads! I'm glad you are back to posting them.

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                    • snusgetter
                      Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 10903

                      #11
                      On a positive note? ...

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                      • AtreyuKun
                        Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 1223

                        #12
                        Originally posted by snusgetter
                        On a positive note? ...

                        That guy sounds like he's really excited, but his face would suggest otherwise.
                        Also, I don't know about you guys but I want a bottle of "booze".

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                        • Frosted
                          Member
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 5798

                          #13
                          I'm not too bothered about the warnings on cigarettes - they are stupidly dangerous.
                          What bothers me intensely are the warnings on snus.

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                          • Jwalker
                            Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 1067

                            #14
                            I don't really care, it makes no difference since as close as we can get to everyone already knows smoking is bad for you, and if for whatever reason they don't think it is some pictures aren't going to change their minds.

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                            • Ansel
                              Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 3696

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Frosted
                              I'm not too bothered about the warnings on cigarettes - they are stupidly dangerous.
                              What bothers me intensely are the warnings on snus.
                              I am quite bothered by it, if they are known to be that bad for you why not ban the sale of them completely instead of sticking stupid pictures all over the packets. Either let them sell them without caveats or ban them completely.

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