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  • rickcharles606
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    • Mar 2009
    • 2307

    #16
    I like Cain because he's NOT a career politician, and has been wildly successful in business in his lifetime. I think he brings interesting perspective. I'm just sick to death of career politicians!

    EDIT: Oh, and Cain aired an ad that had a smoker in it :-) I loved that he wasn't affraid to represent tobacco users. So often smokers are treated as second hand citizens that are less intelligent than their anti tobacco counterparts.

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    • Crow
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      • Oct 2010
      • 4312

      #17
      Originally posted by rickcharles606
      EDIT: Oh, and Cain aired an ad that had a smoker in it :-) I loved that he wasn't affraid to represent tobacco users. So often smokers are treated as second hand citizens that are less intelligent than their anti tobacco counterparts.
      I saw that ad this morning and had a good laugh. It has to be the strangest, most bizarre political ad to date.

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      • rickcharles606
        Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 2307

        #18
        same here, but when the dude took a drag on his smoke, I laughed my ass off and said, "now that's ballsy". Especially these days ;-)

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        • Roo
          Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 3446

          #19
          Originally posted by rickcharles606
          I like Cain because he's NOT a career politician, and has been wildly successful in business in his lifetime. I think he brings interesting perspective. I'm just sick to death of career politicians!
          On the other hand, he couldn't even turn out a decent pizza. Business acumen, maybe? If anyone can tell me why Godfather's Pizza was (is?) good I'd be intrigued to listen... from a business standpoint or that of a pizza enthusiast, either way.

          I love Paul except for his stance on abortion and evolution. Can't win 'em all though. Who will I vote for? Christ I don't know yet.

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          • rickcharles606
            Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 2307

            #20
            Originally posted by Roo
            On the other hand, he couldn't even turn out a decent pizza. Business acumen, maybe? If anyone can tell me why Godfather's Pizza was (is?) good I'd be intrigued to listen... from a business standpoint or that of a pizza enthusiast, either way.

            I love Paul except for his stance on abortion and evolution. Can't win 'em all though. Who will I vote for? Christ I don't know yet.
            I liked Godfather's pizza, lol. Now Papa Johns...I hate it, the wife loves it, lol. But please remember that Godfather's isn't the only job that Cain had and did well in...copied from Wikipedia:

            Herman Cain (born December 13, 1945) is an American business executive,[2][3][4] syndicated columnist, and radio host from Georgia. He is the former chairman and CEO of Godfather's Pizza and a former chairman (Omaha Branch board 1989–91), deputy chairman (1992–94) and chairman (1995–96) of the board of directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City.[5] Before his business career he worked as a mathematician in ballistics as a civilian employee of the United States Navy.[6][7]

            I too like Paul, but fear that his weakness on foreign policy would really weaken our country. I'm not saying we need to be "nation builders" but we cannot completely withdraw from the rest of the world. I'm almost in the camp of "anyone but Obama", but even then we might be screwed, lol

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            • lxskllr
              Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 13435

              #21
              Originally posted by rickcharles606
              I too like Paul, but fear that his weakness on foreign policy would really weaken our country. I'm not saying we need to be "nation builders" but we cannot completely withdraw from the rest of the world. I'm almost in the camp of "anyone but Obama", but even then we might be screwed, lol
              That's one of the things I like best about Paul. Our country is already weak. We're going down the same path the USSR did. spreading influence on an IOU. The American empire is dead. As soon as people realize that, and act accordingly, we'll start to do better as country. Bragging rights are worth exactly $0, and not a single penny more.

              As far as Obama goes... I don't have any more problem with him than I do the other assholes that have served. He's a politician, just like the rest. A darker skinned, better spoken Bush. Democrat=Republican, it's just a different shade of grey. How would you like to be fscked for the next 4 years? Would like your money given to the rich, or the poor? Do you want your rights stripped in the name of safety, or liberty?

              Edit:

              Originally posted by Roo
              I love Paul except for his stance on abortion and evolution. Can't win 'em all though. Who will I vote for? Christ I don't know yet.
              There's a few views Paul has that I don't agree with, but that's ok, because he doesn't inflict them on other people. Paul believes in personal freedom, and limited federal government. That gives all of us the freedom to think things other people don't like too.

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              • truthwolf1
                Member
                • Oct 2008
                • 2696

                #22
                I have always thought that using our capatalistic innovation and making deals with rogue nations for resources is much better then moving in to occupy them. Occupations only feed the corrupt military industrial complex which we have been warned about for years. War costs money and without proper audits the fleecing runs rampant. We are spending more on the mission then what is coming back to help our economy/citizens.

                Look at China, they are everywhere doing exactly what we should be doing (securing resources) and not in the Occupy sense.

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                • sgreger1
                  Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 9451

                  #23
                  No, to be completely honest I think Obama is a better candidate than pretty mcuh every republican right now. More importantly things will get worse over the next term and we should let that Obama be in office when it happens so he can't somehow blame it on the republicans.

                  Honestly though, I think everyone here knows how anti-Obama I am but the idiots running for the republicans are just so egregious I can't even listen to them speak. Have you heard Cain's 9-9-9 scam? Or Perry's new tax plan? They are actually running on a platform of RAISE TAXES ON THE MIDDLE CLASS, SLASH TAXES FOR THE RICH. They are actually saying that the 47% of America who makes less than $25,000 a year aren't contributing enough so their taxes should be raised, and that MILLIONARES/BILLIONARES should have to pay LESS.


                  I've always leaned to the right but these people are blatantly running on a campaign of "**** the middle class". I can't afford to pay any more taxes, anyone in the middle class who votes for Cain or Perry are voting for candidates who are running on a platform of RAISING YOUR TAXES.

                  Whereas, amazingly, Obama has already passed tax cuts for the middle class and is proposing new tax cuts for the midddle class whilst (at least talking about) attempting to raise taxes on billionares who currently pay a lower effective tax rate than I do. The tax cuts have been very small, but it is a hell of a lot better than some rich **** who gets up on stage and says "Vote for me and i'll raise your taxes, that is my platform".

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                  • truthwolf1
                    Member
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 2696

                    #24
                    What is this deeply split/divide between Americans I have been hearing on the sidelines lately??
                    If Obama's approval ratings are in the 20-30's that is not much of a divide.....Heard it from a black friend directly who is a Obama supporter.
                    Imagine that! and pretty much admitted by him why he has his vote.

                    Is it a tax issue?

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                    • internope
                      Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 215

                      #25
                      Originally posted by truthwolf1
                      What is this deeply split/divide between Americans I have been hearing on the sidelines lately??
                      If Obama's approval ratings are in the 20-30's that is not much of a divide.....Heard it from a black friend directly who is a Obama supporter.
                      Imagine that! and pretty much admitted by him why he has his vote.

                      Is it a tax issue?
                      Nice try. Here are the real polling numbers:

                      http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_fav.htm
                      http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_job.htm
                      http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_job1.htm

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                      • chadizzy1
                        Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 7432

                        #26
                        Ron Paul 2012.
                        /thread

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                        • AtreyuKun
                          Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 1223

                          #27
                          Originally posted by sgreger1

                          Honestly though, I think everyone here knows how anti-Obama I am but the idiots running for the republicans are just so egregious I can't even listen to them speak. Have you heard Cain's 9-9-9 scam? Or Perry's new tax plan? They are actually running on a platform of RAISE TAXES ON THE MIDDLE CLASS, SLASH TAXES FOR THE RICH. They are actually saying that the 47% of America who makes less than $25,000 a year aren't contributing enough so their taxes should be raised, and that MILLIONARES/BILLIONARES should have to pay LESS.
                          From Rick Perry, after John Harwood of the New York Times notes that his tax plan will mean huge tax cuts for the rich in an era of already skyrocketing income inequality:

                          But I don’t care about that.

                          http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/20...ont-care-about

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                          • truthwolf1
                            Member
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 2696

                            #28

                            I guess he is doing a little better then I thought but pretty low numbers on strongly approve. Quite the steady decline.

                            http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._index_history

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                            • sgreger1
                              Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 9451

                              #29
                              Originally posted by AtreyuKun
                              From Rick Perry, after John Harwood of the New York Times notes that his tax plan will mean huge tax cuts for the rich in an era of already skyrocketing income inequality:

                              But I don’t care about that.

                              http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/20...ont-care-about

                              ****ing corporatist shill. The republican party has really declined, I mean the top three candidates are running on a platform of TAX THE MIDDLE CLASS. I don't see why they would get any votes but they surely will. Ron Paul 2012, he ain't perfect but at least he keeps it real. And that's about all you can ask for in today's world of politics.

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                              • truthwolf1
                                Member
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 2696

                                #30
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                                http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/26/news...=NP1&hpt=hp_t2

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