Day Of Action-Occupy Portland-More arrests, banks closed in downtown Portland protest

[Joe234]

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More arrests, banks closed in downtown Portland protests



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[Joe234]

Mass arrest near!!!

Takeover of Chase bank now!

They just hosed the crowd with pepper spray

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[EricHill78]

I'm at work can't see the link.. take over of Chase bank? They didn't actually break in did they? lol

[Crow]

Watching it right now. Thanks for the link.

[Crow]

I'm at work can't see the link.. take over of Chase bank? They didn't actually break in did they? lol

I heard a brief mention when I tuned in... Some protestors assembled outside of the bank. Arrests were made, and the bank had to shut down for the day.

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It sounds like the city tried to reach out to the protestors in obtaining a permit for their protests, but they have refused to cooperate from the start. It sounds like it's the protestors that need to take a cue, and not the city.

The method of 'protest control' is another story.

[LincolnSnuff]

Im in Connecticut on business and the ****ing occupy people have a tent city set up in the park downtown. How the hell are 27 tents going going to change our 250 year old financial system? These hippies have to be the dumbst people on the planet. If they would get educated on the facts they might have a smaller chance at making an impact. Im going to go trade some stocks now...

[shikitohno]

Oh yes, I forgot, non-violent means of protesting never changed anything. Give me a minute, I need to go down to the black gas station and grab a couple sodas and some dip.

Seriously, the level of ignorance in this post and the one to lx in the other thread is simply astounding. Would you prefer they simply riot like in the UK? Prolonged protests in a largely peaceful manner can not only show dissatisfaction with the current system, but help to spread the message to other people who might not join in otherwise. Perhaps it's you who need to get educated on the facts, rather than the occupy people. See: US Civil Rights movement, Abolition movement, Vietnam Protests, Mohandas Ghandi. Come back when you're not going to spout nonsense.

[Joe234]

Oh yes, I forgot, non-violent means of protesting never changed anything. Give me a minute, I need to go down to the black gas station and grab a couple sodas and some dip.

Seriously, the level of ignorance in this post and the one to lx in the other thread is simply astounding. Would you prefer they simply riot like in the UK? Prolonged protests in a largely peaceful manner can not only show dissatisfaction with the current system, but help to spread the message to other people who might not join in otherwise. Perhaps it's you who need to get educated on the facts, rather than the occupy people. See: US Civil Rights movement, Abolition movement, Vietnam Protests, Mohandas Ghandi. Come back when you're not going to spout nonsense.

1969: Millions march in US Vietnam Moratorium

Americans have taken part in peace initiatives across the United States to protest against the continuing war in Vietnam.

The Peace Moratorium is believed to have been the largest demonstration in US history with an estimated two million people involved.

In towns and cities throughout the US, students, working men and women, school children, the young and the old, took part in religious services, school seminars, street rallies and meetings.

Supporters of the Vietnam Moratorium wore black armbands to signify their dissent and paid tribute to American personnel killed in the war since 1961.

The focal point was the capital, Washington DC, where more than 40 different activities were planned and about 250,000 demonstrators gathered to make their voices heard.

"I do believe this nation is in danger of committing itself to goals and personalities that guarantee the war's continuance."
Senator Edward Kennedy

Some peace demonstrators gathered on the Capitol steps last night singing songs and holding a candlelit vigil until rallies began in the morning.

Addressing a rally in Washington, Dr Benjamin Spock, the child care expert, said the war was a "total abomination" that was crippling America and must be stopped.

Outside the White House, there were scuffles and several arrests made when police clamped down on black activists.

In Portland, Oregon, 400 protesters clashed with police after an attempt to prevent conscripts entering an army induction centre.

Administration supporters have been critical of the moratorium. General Wheeler, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff called protesters "interminably vocal youngsters, strangers alike to soap and reason".

In a letter to President Richard Nixon, 15 Republican Congressmen have called for an intensification of the campaign.

Supporters of the war made their views known, too.

In New York, where the mayor, John Lindsay, had ordered the US flag to be flown at half-mast for the day, police officers and fire fighters drove with their headlights on in protest at the moratorium day as did many ordinary American citizens.

Some offiicials wore badges that read: "USA - Unity and Service for America".

But Senator Edward Kennedy, a vocal anti-war campaigner, called for combat troops to be withdrawn from Vietnam by October next year and all forces by the end of 1972.

Speaking in Boston, Senator Kennedy was careful not to accuse the president of perpetuating the war.

"I do not believe that President Nixon is committed to continuing the war in Vietnam, but I do believe this nation is in danger of committing itself to goals and personalities that guarantee the war's continuance."

President Nixon continued to work from the White House without comment, as thousands marched around him.

Peace activists congregated outside US embassies across Europe. In London a crowd of some 300 people demonstrated opposite the US Embassy in Grosvenor Square.

In Context
American combat troops had been fighting the Communist Viet Cong in Vietnam since 1965.

Some 45,000 Americans had already been killed by the end of 1969. Almost half a million US men and women were deployed in the conflict, and opposition to the war was growing.

The Moratorium for the first time brought out America's middle class and middle-aged voters, in large numbers. Other demonstrations followed in its wake.

Nixon had already established a gradual programme of withdrawal of US forces, but the war continued, supported by his "silent majority" of voters.

After an established ceasefire in 1973, US deployment in Vietnam ended. Saigon eventually capitulated to the Communist forces on 30 April 1975.

[Crow]

I agree wholeheartedly with the core message of the movement, and the majority of the American people support the same. However, the movement lacks any method, and its message is ambiguous. That's something the movement needs to figure out before things escalate any further. You need to be clear and concise in your demands. Create a platform of ideology that defines this, and preach it to the masses.

[Joe234]

I agree wholeheartedly with the core message of the movement, and the majority of the American people support the same. However, the movement lacks any method, and its message is ambiguous. That's something the movement needs to figure out before things escalate any further. You need to be clear and concise in your demands. Create a platform of ideology that defines this, and preach it to the masses.

Someone said they need another Abbie Hoffman type leader.

[truthwolf1]

Im in Connecticut on business and the ****ing occupy people have a tent city set up in the park downtown. How the hell are 27 tents going going to change our 250 year old financial system? These hippies have to be the dumbst people on the planet. If they would get educated on the facts they might have a smaller chance at making an impact. Im going to go trade some stocks now...

I totally agree. The real blame is not bringing the crooks to justice and letting the market correct itself. Instead business as usual and the common people pay to prop up the crooks over and over again. The Obama admin is probably quite relieved they have completely escaped responsibility once again. Vietnam, Civil liberties, Ghandi?? Those were all causes that had achievable outcomes/demands for real change. Hey? was it not just so long ago people were actually on that bandwagon also?? What happened?? hmm.. OBAMA
The Occupy movement has not offered anything other then being mad that they are in the predicament they are in. Hey, I feel for them and the passion for change/protest but you left QUITE A FEW OF US out of your little far-left-Anarcho rise up.

[shikitohno]

There's a difference between being left out, and refusing to participate because of your own ideological disagreements with the movement. And the analogy with other peaceful protests was to show that peaceful protests have accomplished something in the past. For all that they speak of how we need to wake up (us being left-leaning sorts), conservatives have some serious intellectual blinders on. Really, some of the things people post of here suggest they should either return to grade school to brush up on reading comprehension, or that they are deliberately misinterpreting as much as they can simply for the purpose of being contrarian and not having to step out of their ideological comfort zone.

Anarchism is right there with communism for me, in a group of ideas that could be nice if human nature was actually so altruistic as to carry them out properly, but in the long term I think people will almost always screw it up with greed. And I doubt it'll ever be a truly significant force in the US because of the terror people have of anything more leftist than the Democrats. I've got a feeling public support and a list of demands will apear once you have someone in authority overreact badly enough that one or more of the protestors dies. And then you'll see folks like LincolnSnuff and truthwolf1 angry because, "Oh god, hippies and liberals are proposing a list of demands to fix the country!" Instead of just complaining and assisting in perpetuating the status quo, why don't you guys find a group of like-minded folks to support, and do your best to see that they get the widest support for their plan to fix things. The Tea Party movement has offer little more than being angry and mad about the current situation, and occasionally shouting "Smaller government, hell yeah!" Their most articulate members have been politicians who have attempted to appropriate the movement to try and differentiate themselves from other conservatives.