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  • Ainkor
    Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 1144

    #16
    First thing I say is install OS X on it :P

    Just kidding, maybe :P

    Congrats on the new computer! I got one very similar recently except only 8gigs of ram. Enjoy!

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    • lxskllr
      Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 13435

      #17
      Originally posted by shikitohno
      Is that you Richard? Nah, can't be, that's a bit too soft of a stance.
      :^D

      I've been reading a lot of RMS' essays and speeches lately, and I'm completely onboard. He's absolutely right. He may be a little extreme, but the world needs someone to push back against the erosion of rights, and liberty. I don't follow his path as stringently, but I consider that more a failing on my part than his. When looking for software, especially where my data is at stake, I go to free software first. For less important stuff, or where it works for convenience, I'll use proprietary software. Here's my current list. I'm not doing too bad :^)

      Non-free packages installed on Printer

      nvidia-96 NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU lib
      opera Fast and secure web browser and Internet suite
      p7zip-rar non-free rar module for p7zip
      rar Archiver for .rar files
      virtualbox-guest-addition guest additions iso image for VirtualBox

      Contrib packages installed on Printer

      conky-all highly configurable system monitor (all features enabl
      flashplugin-installer Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
      nvidia-common Find obsolete NVIDIA drivers
      nvidia-settings Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
      ttf-mscorefonts-installer Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts

      5 non-free packages, 0.3% of 1865 installed packages.
      5 contrib packages, 0.3% of 1865 installed packages.

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      • shikitohno
        Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 1156

        #18
        I think the only non-free packages I have (aside from some a few games I run under wine, not sure how they factor into Stallman's view) are flash, unrar, unzip and a few audio/video codecs. I might have the mscorefonts installed, I'm not sure. I'm generally in agreement with him in principle, but I think sometimes the frenzied way he gets into it puts him at risk of just sounding like a tin-foil hat wearing penguin lover. With some minor changes, I can get behind him. For example, I don't think games should necessarily be free or opensource. It's nice if they are, but it Nitro+ spends several years writing Chäos;Head, I don't see why it's so terrible an idea for them to ask for some payment for it. I just can't get behind the ridiculous DRM-schemes used by a lot of companies. That reminds me, I never finished Chäos;Head, and it was supposed to be pretty good. Think I'll go do that...

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        • lxskllr
          Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 13435

          #19
          Well, as you know, free isn't a reference to price, rather the liberties it gives you. I've always maintained that if you treat your customers with respect, and sell a good product, at a fair price, they'll support you. Sure some people will take advantage of you, but the majority of them weren't your customers anyway. The Humble Bundles are a good example of that. They've done pretty well selling DRM free games, with Linux users giving more money per user than the other 2 platforms, and sometimes more than the other 2 combined. I'm sure plenty of people torrented the games, but the devs still made money from the people that support them, and appreciate the effort.

          I like one of RMS' plans for distributing money to artists. One which I don't care for involves what amounts to an art tax, with the proceeds going to the artists in relative proportion to their popularity. Aside from my dislike of taxes, the actual setup would be a logistical nightmare. The plan I do like, which would also work well for applications, involves a button on the media player that'll allow to you make anonymous contributions to the artist. If you like a song, or movie, send them $1, or whatever you can pay, or feel it's worth. That way, people with money can support the arts, and artists, while the poor won't be cut off from culture. That would cut the leeches out of the equation, and allow smaller artists/devs to make a living doing what they like.

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          • shikitohno
            Member
            • Jul 2009
            • 1156

            #20
            Kind of like the model over at jamendo then? There's a number of albums that are free, pay what you will, and fixed price. And then aside from that, there's also the option to donate money directly to the artists who you want to support. I think Jamendo has a chance to be a pretty good platform for lots of musicians, myself.

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            • sgreger1
              Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 9451

              #21
              ATTENTION ANYONE WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT VIRTUAL MACHINES OR DUAL BOOTING:


              I have a complete Mac OSX Lion ISO file and I would like to make a virtual machine that runs Mac OSX Lion on it. I am trying to read these tutorials but they make no sense.

              *I have downloaded VirtualBox from Oracle.
              *I have the full operating system I want to install as an ISO file.
              *How do I now take this iso file of Mac OSX Lion and run it in the god damned virtual machine?



              If that is too difficult, how do I install this as a partition on my hard drive so that I can just boot to Mac OSX Lion.

              My wife only likes Mac so it is really important that I figure this out. Thank You.


              Edit: I also have VMware and Daemon Tools if that helps.


              EDIT: Virtual machine seems like it will run too slow. I just need to know how to dual boot it. I have a 100GB partition set up on my Windows 7 computer, and I have the ISO file for OSX Lion, what now? Do I really need to burn it into a DVD? I don't have any blank DVD's or USB drives, but I do have a 16GB SD card that can hold it, can I use that? If anyone can point me to a link to a tutorial that can explain how to install OSX on my new partition i've created it would be greatly appreciated.

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              • Roo
                Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 3446

                #22
                Sucker!

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                • Ainkor
                  Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1144

                  #23
                  Originally posted by sgreger1
                  ATTENTION ANYONE WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT VIRTUAL MACHINES OR DUAL BOOTING:


                  I have a complete Mac OSX Lion ISO file and I would like to make a virtual machine that runs Mac OSX Lion on it. I am trying to read these tutorials but they make no sense.

                  *I have downloaded VirtualBox from Oracle.
                  *I have the full operating system I want to install as an ISO file.
                  *How do I now take this iso file of Mac OSX Lion and run it in the god damned virtual machine?



                  If that is too difficult, how do I install this as a partition on my hard drive so that I can just boot to Mac OSX Lion.

                  My wife only likes Mac so it is really important that I figure this out. Thank You.


                  Edit: I also have VMware and Daemon Tools if that helps.


                  EDIT: Virtual machine seems like it will run too slow. I just need to know how to dual boot it. I have a 100GB partition set up on my Windows 7 computer, and I have the ISO file for OSX Lion, what now? Do I really need to burn it into a DVD? I don't have any blank DVD's or USB drives, but I do have a 16GB SD card that can hold it, can I use that? If anyone can point me to a link to a tutorial that can explain how to install OSX on my new partition i've created it would be greatly appreciated.
                  Here is a good place to start:

                  http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/in...llation_Guides

                  Also a video of it:

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rMZ_-_QERA

                  It took me a while but I have 10.7.2 running in VMWare player on my computer now just for kicks

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                  • lxskllr
                    Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 13435

                    #24
                    Originally posted by shikitohno
                    Kind of like the model over at jamendo then? There's a number of albums that are free, pay what you will, and fixed price. And then aside from that, there's also the option to donate money directly to the artists who you want to support. I think Jamendo has a chance to be a pretty good platform for lots of musicians, myself.
                    Exactly. I need to go back over there. I haven't checked them out in awhile. I've been listening mostly to dead guys lately :^D

                    There's no reason you have to confine the model to a central location. Adding the infrastructure would be easy/cheap enough to accomplish. The problem is the big media leeches will challenge it through any method possible. I'd like to see it started by someone like Mark Shuttleworth. A guy with a lot of money, and a vision. Start by selling hardware players that provide the donation mechanism, and add the infrastructure to free software. Each artist, no matter how small can have a key(like PGP), and when a donation is made, it gets credited to their account based on the key.

                    Think about it. I don't know about New York, but buskers around here do pretty well. They aren't exactly getting rich, but they're doing pretty well making music; all supported by the people who appreciate the effort.

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                    • truthwolf1
                      Member
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 2696

                      #25
                      I am getting a new computer with the i5 2500 / 3.3 GHz, one step below the i7
                      My research stated it was a great processor for Photoshop, CS5. Cant wait.


                      Dont really miss the MAC OS at all but never really used it anyways.

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                      • sgreger1
                        Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 9451

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Ainkor
                        Here is a good place to start:

                        http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/in...llation_Guides

                        Also a video of it:

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rMZ_-_QERA

                        It took me a while but I have 10.7.2 running in VMWare player on my computer now just for kicks

                        Thank you! So here is my question, does it run Ok on VMWare? Like if my wife wanted to use the computer could I just launch it in VMPlayer and then she would be essentially using a mac from that point on? Or ould it be better to install it on another partitiona nd just boot into Lion?

                        I completed all of the tutorials for VMware version of runing Mac but I keep getting this errror in VMware upon launching it notifying me that I lack hardware acceleration or that it is turned off or something. I just can't figure it out, but I will try the info posted at your link above later and hopefully it works. Please let me know whether lion runs smoothly in VMware though! I would rather not have to boot up the computer again if she wants to use it.

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                        • shikitohno
                          Member
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 1156

                          #27
                          sgreger: Unless you specifically made steps to ensure you maintained hardware compatability with the Mac OS (hint: if you didn't know you needed to do such a thing, you probably didn't), you're not dual-booting anything. As far as I know, while OSX has gotten better in the past, there's still a fairly limited range of supported hardware.

                          Virtual Machines have come a long way, but they also still have their limitations. Chances are, whatever you or your wife want to do has a pretty easy way for you to accomplish it via Windows. Instead of taking really convoluted steps to baby your wife, why not just have her learn how to do it the proper way for doing the task in Windows? If I have to use a Mac for something, I don't spend hours looking for ways to chage Mac so it conforms to the way Windows works. I learn the Mac way of doing it, and do it that way. Anything more is introducing unnecessary complexity to what you're doing, and adding one more layer of difficulty and obfuscation of the origin of errors when inevitably, something fails.

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                          • sgreger1
                            Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 9451

                            #28
                            Originally posted by truthwolf1
                            I am getting a new computer with the i5 2500 / 3.3 GHz, one step below the i7
                            My research stated it was a great processor for Photoshop, CS5. Cant wait.


                            Dont really miss the MAC OS at all but never really used it anyways.


                            That will be more than you need for photoshop man it'll be blazing. All the photos I work on are like 18mb a piece (taken at the highest resolution my camera can take, shooting in RAW) and mine handles them like they were nothing. Really though it's more about how much RAM you have. I highly suggest getting or upgrading your ram to 10GB, it is amazing how much it helps. At Frys electronics you can buy 4 gigs of ram for $25 and you can just plug it in to upgrade it. For example, I have the i7 which is only a step up from the i5, and I have a widget that monitors my processor speed and I watch it constantly. It idles at .5% and never goes over 13% even when I am doing hardcore photoshop tasks or using after effects, the ram however can sometimes hit 50% or more on photoshop and in after effects I have it set to eat up the whole 10GB when rendering. So I could have 50% of the processor speed I have now and not notice it at all, because the most I use of the i7 currently is maybe 15% of it for any given task. The i5 will be more than you probably need.

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                            • sgreger1
                              Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 9451

                              #29
                              Originally posted by shikitohno
                              sgreger: Unless you specifically made steps to ensure you maintained hardware compatability with the Mac OS (hint: if you didn't know you needed to do such a thing, you probably didn't), you're not dual-booting anything. As far as I know, while OSX has gotten better in the past, there's still a fairly limited range of supported hardware.

                              Virtual Machines have come a long way, but they also still have their limitations. Chances are, whatever you or your wife want to do has a pretty easy way for you to accomplish it via Windows. Instead of taking really convoluted steps to baby your wife, why not just have her learn how to do it the proper way for doing the task in Windows? If I have to use a Mac for something, I don't spend hours looking for ways to chage Mac so it conforms to the way Windows works. I learn the Mac way of doing it, and do it that way. Anything more is introducing unnecessary complexity to what you're doing, and adding one more layer of difficulty and obfuscation of the origin of errors when inevitably, something fails.

                              I see your point. Honestly my wife will probably never use it since she just uses her laptop, but I thought it would be cool to do, and i'm still just a little giddy from having my first desktop since I was in high school. It's like rediscovering the internet all over again and all the cool things you can do with windows. I wasn't allowed to really change anything on my wifes laptop so I forgot the joy of customizing everything. Anyways, I just wanted to do it as an exercise to learn more about how the PC works, I just wanted to see if I could do it. I probably won't use the mac side often but thought it would be cool for the wife. She isn't interested in using Windows and she only does very light activities like watching youtube and browsing the internet. I know, it's all vanity not function, but since I have the ISO for OSX Lion I figured i'd see if I could make it work. The hardware differences are significant and according to OSX86 project I may be able to get it to work with enough tinkering.

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                              • sgreger1
                                Member
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 9451

                                #30
                                Hey LX, if I wanted to install Linux on a partition to play around with, where is the place to go for that and what version should I run that will be stable?

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