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  • Crow
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    • Oct 2010
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    'How air conditioning, prostitution, and raw milk could give Ron Paul problems'

    Ron Paul is coming under the microscope now that he is seen as having a real chance at winning Iowa.

    Yesterday, the Texas congressman, who has the best organization in Iowa, was pressed on CNN about controversial statements attributed to him in a newsletter published 20-plus years ago. Some conservatives are now taking aim, with one columnist even comparing him to Jeremiah Wright, the controversial former Obama pastor.

    But there are plenty of issues of substance -- and positions he holds today -- that, although they're consistent with Paul's libertarian views, are potentially problematic with the conservative base and the general electorate. (We wrote about some of these issues back in August.)

    Here's a look:
    -- No federal regulations for car safety, medicines, even air traffic control: BRIAN WILLIAMS: "Does this include things like making cars safe, making medicine safe, air traffic control controlling the jets above our heads?"

    PAUL: "I think in theory, if you understood the free market in a free society, you don't need government to do that. … On regulations, no, I don't believe in any of these federal regulations ... [W]ho ends up doing the regulations on the drugs? They do as much harm as good. They don't take good care of us ... [D]o we need the federal government to tell us whether we buy a safe car? I say the consumers of America are smart enough to decide what kind of car they can buy and whether it's safe or not ..." (NBC-Politico debate in September)
    -- Don’t regulate raw milk: "This idea that the [FDA] is going to take care of us — they end up interfering with choices," Paul said in Iowa, adding, "So my ideal, as a symbol of moving in a different direction, I would like to restore your right to drink raw milk any time you want to drink it."
    -- Heroin, marijuana, cocaine, prostitution OK if states allow them: "... In essence, if I leave it to the states, it's going to be up to the states. Up until this past century, you know for 100 years, they were legal. What you're inferring is 'You know what? If we legalize heroin tomorrow, everybody is going to use heroin.' How many people here would use heroin if it was legal? I bet nobody would."
    -- No air conditioning for troops (as a way to bring them home): "We're spending -- believe it or not, this blew my mind when I read this -- $20 billion a year for air conditioning in Afghanistan and Iraq in the tents over there and all the air conditioning. Cut that $20 billion out, bring in -- take $10 billion off the debt, and put $10 billion into FEMA or whoever else needs it, child health care or whatever," he said at the NBC News-POLITICO debate. "But I'll tell you what, if we did that and took the air conditioning out of the Green Zone, our troops would come home, and that would make me happy."
    -- No FEMA: "FEMA just conditioned people to build where they shouldn't be building," Paul said at the NBC-POLITICO debate. He continued: "Yeah, my position is, we should have never had it."
    -- Against the Americans with Disabilities Act: "If they mistreat people who are handicapped, don’t go. Boycott them. … No, the ADA should never have been passed. … it’s an intrusion into private property rights."
    -- Believes Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are unconstitutional: When it was pointed out that the Supreme Court didn't see it that way, Paul responded: "And the Constitution and the courts said slavery was legal too, and we had to reverse that."
    -- OK with prosecuting CIA for "war crimes": He said they are bombing people in Pakistan with predator drones, adding, "I don’t want the secrecy of the CIA." And he accused the agency of being "over there torturing people."

    "They committed all kinds of war crimes and tortured people and killed people, committed assassination. Right now, our CIA's running the predator program, bombing citizens and not all of them -- They claim they're bombing terrorists, but they're bombing a lot of innocent citizens in Pakistan. No, they shouldn't have this secrecy ... I don't want the secrecy of the CIA, I don't think they provide any services ... For them to be over there and torturing people, so that we're safer -- I think it's destroying the soul of America by permitting that."
    -- OK with Iran having a nuclear weapon: Asked specifically if Iran wanted to develop a nuclear weapon, Paul said that it’s their right to have them. “Why would that be so strange if the Soviets and the Chinese have nuclear weapons? We tolerated the Soviets. We didn’t attack them.”
    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news...-paul-problems
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  • wa3zrm
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    #2
    Truly a wise man
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    • truthwolf1
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      • Oct 2008
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      #3
      What I like about these answers is the accountability.

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      • sgreger1
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        • Mar 2009
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        #4
        Wow I have even more respect for him after reading this (wasn't sure that was possible). I agree with almost all of his points. The air conditioning one sucks though cause **** it gets hot as shit even stateside when your in the army carrying all that shit around, but if the officers didn't have their AC in the T.A.L.K. than there would never be any more wars

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        • Crow
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          • Oct 2010
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          #5
          Haha! You guys are crazy.

          I love it!
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          • charmando
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            • Oct 2010
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            #6
            I really hope americans are smart enough to overlook the medias smear campaign on RP. Does anyone think there should be a basic political test to secure the right to vote?

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            • sgreger1
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              • Mar 2009
              • 9451

              #7
              Originally posted by charmando
              I really hope americans are smart enough to overlook the medias smear campaign on RP
              Hopefully so, he is leading in the polls so there is hope yet.


              Does anyone think there should be a basic political test to secure the right to vote?
              This is too slippery a slope IMO. All Americans, from the educated all the way down to the extremely ignorant, have equal rights in regards to voting in our representative democracy, and I don't think there should ever be any rules to deny anyone of any class, social standing, education level, religion etc from voting. All speech is equal, all votes are equal, these rules are not in place to protect popular speech or popular votes, they are there to protect those whom the majority does not agree with. In any other system, the smart ones eventually get labeled as the enemy and once their right to vote is denied than the oppressors take over.

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              • Crow
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                • Oct 2010
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                #8
                Originally posted by sgreger1
                This is too slippery a slope IMO. All Americans, from the educated all the way down to the extremely ignorant, have equal rights in regards to voting in our representative democracy, and I don't think there should ever be any rules to deny anyone of any class, social standing, education level, religion etc from voting. All speech is equal, all votes are equal, these rules are not in place to protect popular speech or popular votes, they are there to protect those whom the majority does not agree with. In any other system, the smart ones eventually get labeled as the enemy and once their right to vote is denied than the oppressors take over.
                Hear, hear!
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                • truthwolf1
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                  • Oct 2008
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                  #9
                  Yeah, I like old fashioned paper ballots for everyone verses the Diebold path

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                  • lxskllr
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                    • Sep 2007
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by charmando
                    I really hope americans are smart enough to overlook the medias smear campaign on RP. Does anyone think there should be a basic political test to secure the right to vote?
                    I think they should ban political parties under racketeering laws. No Democrats, no Republicans, no nothing. That way every candidate would have to campaign on what he really thinks(or at least on creative lies), and there wouldn't be any default position. It would all be up for grabs, and people would have to pay attention for a change. There wouldn't be any retarded Like button for the monkeys to push anymore.

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                    • clint404
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                      • Jul 2011
                      • 317

                      #11
                      Is it wrong that I've cried from watching a few ron paul videos?

                      This man is a pure patriot if there ever was one. Been on the paul train since 07'

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                      • sgreger1
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                        • Mar 2009
                        • 9451

                        #12
                        Originally posted by lxskllr
                        There wouldn't be any retarded Like button for the monkeys to push anymore.
                        LOL.

                        That's what it's become nowadays, people vote for their party even when they dont agree with most of their positions. The candidates are then forced to fit their views inside of this tiny pre-established box.

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                        • texastorm
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                          • Jul 2010
                          • 386

                          #13
                          I see nothing wrong with any of his answers. Not one of the answers highlighted is a wrong choice.

                          Over regulation, nanny state mentality, we must protect our children, bull sh*t laws are going to leave us with no rights eventually. All my life I have had a number, I have never enjoyed that.

                          Maybe I am fringe, maybe you think I am crazy, but know that if you think regulation to protect you or your neighbors from "insert bad guy here" is a good thing, I think you are more crazy. With each new regulation your own rights are eroded. With each new entitlement program more people become dependent on public money for their very survival.

                          The sad thing is though is that RP has never stood a chance. We would never tolerate a president we couldn't call a puppet. So even though he has a loyal following, he will never be elected. But in my little fantasy world a man like Paul could be elected and the world would still be miserable, but I and those like me would know that the future was potentially safer.

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                          • charmando
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                            • Oct 2010
                            • 151

                            #14
                            I agree sgreger. It's just frustrating to think of the non issues and general bullshit that sways many voters. YES lx. I feel like many people just like the illusion of self-importance and use their blind support of a political party to feel guided and resolute.

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                            • BlueSaint
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                              • May 2011
                              • 195

                              #15
                              Seems like media hates him...

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