Bone Chilling interview about the USA with Phil Donahue

[clint404]

I have mad respect for phil for having the courage to say these things on tv.

[Fazer]

That was good, I'd like to have seen the whole interview because i do like Ron Paul. I dont get why you say he has "courage" to say these things on tv? Do most americans think the opposite ? I see he did well in iowa, yes he was 3rd but, didn't he get 21% of the votes, while 1st and 2nd got 25%? Surely 3rd place with 21% must mean that lots of people think what Phil Donahue is saying is right, that's why i don't get the word courage. Anyway, thanks for posting that

[snusjus]

The United States will continue its downward spiral if we keep electing individuals who are influenced by special interests and ulterior motives. Although I disagree with Ron Paul on numerous issues, I wholeheartedly believe he is the best candidate for 2012. I will likely write his name on the ballot if he doesn't receive the Republican nomination.

By the way, I'm a left-wing liberal. Haha.

[Fazer]

I will likely write his name on the ballot if he doesn't receive the Republican nomination.

I don't really understand your system. So, do i have this right, if he doesn't win the Republican nomination, you can still vote for him on election day?

[clint404]

Yea you can write in whom ever you want. I hear mickey mouse polls well every four years.

[sgreger1]

That was good, I'd like to have seen the whole interview because i do like Ron Paul. I dont get why you say he has "courage" to say these things on tv? Do most americans think the opposite ? I see he did well in iowa, yes he was 3rd but, didn't he get 21% of the votes, while 1st and 2nd got 25%? Surely 3rd place with 21% must mean that lots of people think what Phil Donahue is saying is right, that's why i don't get the word courage. Anyway, thanks for posting that

1. Iowa means nothing, it's a small part of the larger voting populace. The Republicans make it seem like a big deal but it really means nothing.

2. He has "courage" because it is still Taboo in America to have these sorts of viewpoints. Neither the republicans nor the democrats want someone like Paul in power because he may end their gravy train, or at a minimum bring a little class into the picture. So both sides spend lots of time demonizing the ideas that he preaches for.

3. Most Americans do not agree with Ron Paul for varrying reasons. Only a minority support him. Most people acknowledge though that he is not corrupt or bought out, and at least sticks to his principles. But watch and see how many people actually support him come 2012.


The fact that Ron Paul isn't more popular is a sign of how the average american thinks. They are too caught up in the left vs. right gameshow to listen to a man who actually wants to fix things.

[Darwin]

Only a minority support him. Most people acknowledge though that he is not corrupt or bought out, and at least sticks to his principles.

Good point. There is not however any sort of automatic correlation between incorruptibility and palliability. If someone's views are not to your liking then whatever level of honesty and integrity he demonstrates is essentially irrelevant. It is a rarity indeed that we encounter two political candidates that differ only in their relative levels of integrity. There's always a lot more going on than that and of such are horse races made. Whatever I might think about Ron Paul if by some miracle he becomes the GOP nominee I will vote for him with a smile. If he goes off the deep end and ends up a third party candidate the smile will disappear in a hurry since there is a high probability that course would hand the election to some One else.

[lxskllr]

If he goes off the deep end and ends up a third party candidate the smile will disappear in a hurry since there is a high probability that course would hand the election to some One else.

What difference does that make? All the other candidates are interchangeable. Obama is just a blacker Bush. If those 2 aren't substantially different, why would others from the same party/system be? I'll be voting for Paul if I'm the only person in the country that does so. I'll at least be able to go to bed knowing I did the right thing, and didn't vote for another 4 years of mediocrity, or give more of the country to the corporations.

[snusjus]

I don't really understand your system. So, do i have this right, if he doesn't win the Republican nomination, you can still vote for him on election day?

Correct. Voters can write-in any candidate they wish in the "Other" box on voting ballots, even if they weren't nominated for their party.

[sgreger1]

Good point. There is not however any sort of automatic correlation between incorruptibility and palliability. If someone's views are not to your liking then whatever level of honesty and integrity he demonstrates is essentially irrelevant. It is a rarity indeed that we encounter two political candidates that differ only in their relative levels of integrity. There's always a lot more going on than that and of such are horse races made. Whatever I might think about Ron Paul if by some miracle he becomes the GOP nominee I will vote for him with a smile. If he goes off the deep end and ends up a third party candidate the smile will disappear in a hurry since there is a high probability that course would hand the election to some One else.

A) Obama is winning no matter what



So who else would you vote for? Would you truly vote for Romney or Santorum or Perry or anyone else running for the GOP? I would rather write in Ron Paul than vote for any of these scum (including Obama). Anyways it doesn't matter, Obama will win.

Let's get a pool going on here, who thinks Obama will lose the next election. I vow $100 of snus to any challenger who believes he will not be re-elected. On my honor and my word on this forum I will bet any man that that scoundrel will see a second term regardless of any factor. No joke, respond if you would like to bet me.

[sgreger1]

What difference does that make? All the other candidates are interchangeable. Obama is just a blacker Bush. If those 2 aren't substantially different, why would others from the same party/system be? I'll be voting for Paul if I'm the only person in the country that does so. I'll at least be able to go to bed knowing I did the right thing, and didn't vote for another 4 years of mediocrity, or give more of the country to the corporations.

That's what I'm talking about. The guy is a whacko christian who shares few similar views with me in regards to most social issues, but the man is honest and is about cutting the deficit. I am for cutting the deficit and raising taxes on the rich, at least he will have the spine to do one of the two. Babylon fell because of similar problems to ours, they were an empire who overextended themselves to the point of bankruptcy, and in the face of their deficit did nothing to reduce their costs nor increase their tax revenue, until eventually the walls fell and it was over. I will hereby vote for any man who will stop our imperialism. Judge Faust, you were right (to an extent).