Why GNU/Linux Rocks

[shikitohno]

Well, it seems I was reading something outdated and rtorrent support magnet links from a couple versions ago, so there's not much to be gained from installing it from source right now. For IRC clients, I'd say irssi is my favourite. It's got a pretty good guide for how to use it online, and like rtorrent, it'll play pretty nicely with screen. If you fell like trying those two out,

sudo yum install screen rtorrent irssi

will grab all three for you, plus any dependencies. And lx, I don't think synaptic really does anything on Fedora. At least not anything useful. There's a different graphical frontend for yum, although long term, it too is kind of crap.

[lxskllr]

And lx, I don't think synaptic really does anything on Fedora. At least not anything useful.

It didn't click that fedora uses a different system. A quick DuckDuckGo says that Synaptic can be installed, and used. Also it appears there's some graphical front ends for yum. I prefer using graphical managers, as you can get close to what you're looking for, and don't have to rely on exact package names.

Edit:
Looks like Add/Remove Software tool is the one for fedora, eh?

http://www.muktware.com/articles/2936

[shikitohno]

I don't know about aptitude, but with yum (and pacman) you can be pretty vague with your searches. You can even just search a function, like running a search for "filemanager" and it'll spit back a few options at you. Besides which, most of the time if I'm looking to install a program and I'm unsure of which one would be best, or don't even know of any yet, I'll just search "progam for doing 'x' linux." By the time I've read enough to decide that I want to install it, I already know the packagae name, so it's a non-issue here. Add/Remove Software would probably be the equivalent, but I haven't really used it, so sgreger1 is on his own with any issues he encounters with it.

[sgreger1]

Well, it seems I was reading something outdated and rtorrent support magnet links from a couple versions ago, so there's not much to be gained from installing it from source right now. For IRC clients, I'd say irssi is my favourite. It's got a pretty good guide for how to use it online, and like rtorrent, it'll play pretty nicely with screen. If you fell like trying those two out,

sudo yum install screen rtorrent irssi

will grab all three for you, plus any dependencies. And lx, I don't think synaptic really does anything on Fedora. At least not anything useful. There's a different graphical frontend for yum, although long term, it too is kind of crap.

Thanks Shiki! The thing is that I already did sudo yum install rtorrent and downloaded it but it doesn't appear in my list of applications, I figured maybe there was other steps or something. I will have to double check when I get home. I love using yum, it's so much easier than going through an install wizard on windows.

[sgreger1]

It didn't click that fedora uses a different system. A quick DuckDuckGo says that Synaptic can be installed, and used. Also it appears there's some graphical front ends for yum. I prefer using graphical managers, as you can get close to what you're looking for, and don't have to rely on exact package names.

Edit:
Looks like Add/Remove Software tool is the one for fedora, eh?

http://www.muktware.com/articles/2936

Yah ad/remove software is the one for Fedora. Seems easier to just use yum from the coomand line but I've also used the software add/remove feature. In a lot fo tutorials I see "apt-get", is this like the debian version of yum or something? Because when I follow a tutorial and replace apt-get" with "yum" it works so I am assuming they are the same thing.

[lxskllr]

Yea, Debian is apt-get, aptitude, or synaptic.

rtorrent is a cli program. You'd run it from the terminal, so it won't show up in your applications menu.

[sgreger1]

Oh okay, i'll have to figure out how to find/run a program from within the terminal than. Utorrent has lots of "Features" I guess but all I do is magnetic link>download>seed. Don't need all the "Stream now" or VLC plugins etc that it has since I never use any of that. If I could have something lightweight that just downloads and seeds torrents that would be sweet.

[lxskllr]

You don't listen to me...

Edit:
http://www.qbittorrent.org/

Edit2:
There's also transmission which is likely already installed. I'm sure fedora comes with a torrent client of some kind.

[sgreger1]

You don't listen to me...

Edit:
http://www.qbittorrent.org/

Edit2:
There's also transmission which is likely already installed. I'm sure fedora comes with a torrent client of some kind.

Cool i'll have to check it out when i get home since my work blocks their page. I may have seen transmission in my list of applications but didn't know what it did (all that shit sounds completely foreign to me as I have never heard of any fo these open source programs until now).

[shikitohno]

To launch terminal programs, just type their name for the most part. For example, to launch screen, and run rtorrent and irssi in it, type

screen

to launch screen. Next

rtorrent

to launch rtorrent. You can then hit Cntl-a followed by c to open a new window within screen, and type

irssi

to launch irssi. You could switch between those windows by hitting Cntl-a (from now on, just abbreviated as C-a) followed by either n or p. As lx says, qbittorrent will work, and transmission is already installed. I used to like qbittorrent a lot, but it had a bug for a while where it'd misbehave with btrfs drives, and just intermittently unmount them...

Also, you can't always just copy those Debian instructions verbatim. Some things are relatively simple to adjust for, like what Debian releases as libfoo-dev would be called libfoo-devel on Fedora. Sometimes what's provided by one package in Debian will be provided by something with a different name under Fedora, or just be completely unavailable from the repos. And as lx said earlier, source compilations should generally be a last resort, as things installed via the repos are usually easier to update. Of course, rtorrent's source does have an easy update method coded into it for source compilations, but for now it's pretty much easier to install from the repos, or else use what lx is mentioning.

[sgreger1]

Oh wow that's really easy then. I figured I would have to do something more complicated for such a simple task, it being linux and all

Oh i can't wait to get home now. I need to play around with screen too to figure out more about how it works.

[shikitohno]

You can also hit C-a ? to see a brief listing of keybindings fo screen while you're in it. Just remember that by C-a they mean hit ctrl-a, release them and press something else.

[sgreger1]

Okay so I got all three installed. I am trying to figure out screen.

So what exactly is the main purpose of this, running multiple terminals at once? Can't you just open up a new terminal window. Am I missing the point entirely?

Edit; Okay I found this somewhere, seems to make sense.

The beauty of the screen is that users can "detach" from their screens, logout, and then at a later time, login again "reattach" to find their programs still running just as they left them.

Moving on to learn Irssi now. This is a great tutorial that teaches about both:

http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi

[shikitohno]

I'd say you're missing the point to a certain extent. Think about it, which is easier to work with: having 12 terminal windows/tabs open, and trying to remember which program is running in which while switching between them, or having 12 programs running in one screen session, and being able to see a list of them all just by hittin C-a "? Since you can name every window open in screen, you can get a nice list of everything you've got open in just a couple of seconds, rapidly move between them, and it'll work nicely for dealing with things running remotely. In the long term, it's up to you, but personally, I prefer to just have one terminal open running screen, instead of multiple terminals all running one program each. Screen's also very useful on remotely accessed machines for the reason you found in that little quote. If you have a screen session running your programs on a remote machine, and you lose your connection to the machine, when you reconnect you'll find your screen session still trucking along.

[sgreger1]

Yah I played with it a little more last night and it makes sense now (I only had 30 min of computer time so couldn't do much). I guess I am just not at the point where I find myself using multiple terminals for anything yet so I didn't realize that this would be something that would occur often. Are there any good remote clients for linux that can allow my computer to be accessed through my iphone by chance?