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  • Judge Fuast
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    • Mar 2009
    • 21

    #1

    The Enemy Expatriation Act

    The Enemy Expatriation Act: No different than the Nazi Nuremberg Laws

    H.R. 3166 and S. 1698 further destroy the once great Republic.
    Brian D. Hill
    USWGO Alternative News
    January 15, 2012
    The Enemy Expatriation Act (H.R. 3166; S. 1698), an act that the U.S. Congress is now considering, that will allow the U.S. Government to take away citizenship of anybody that is considered a hostile enemy or supporting hostility towards the U.S. Government, is similar to the Nazi Factions Nuremberg laws where Adolf Hitler took away Germans citizenship based on race, bloodtypes, and those against the Hitler regime.
    “If the Enemy Expatriation Act passes in its current form, the legislation will let the government strike away citizenship for anyone engaged in hostilities, or supporting hostilities, against the United States” in a news article by RussiaToday News.
    The United States Government is actively passing laws mirroring the Nazi regime before they started killing anybody who was Jewish, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Politically against the Nazis or even Hitler himself, and attacked those that helped Jews and other political fugitives escape or hide in Nazi Germany.
    Chuck Baldwin posted on Infowars that the “Congress is considering HR 3166 and S. 1698 also known as the Enemy Expatriation Act, sponsored by Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Charles Dent (R-PA). This bill would give the US government the power to strip Americans of their citizenship without being convicted of being ‘hostile’ against the United States. In other words, you can be stripped of your nationality for ‘engaging in, or purposefully and materially supporting, hostilities against the United States.’ Legally, the term ‘hostilities’ means any conflict subject to the laws of war but considering the fact that the War on Terror is a little ambiguous and encompassing, any action could be labeled as supporting terrorism.”
    The Nuremberg Laws were established in 1935 were antisemitic laws in Nazi Germany introduced at the annual Nuremberg Rally of the Nazi Party. Despite whether you are pro semitic or antisemitic, it is a very good idea to pay attention to the passing of the Enemy Expatriation Act, because Hitler first passed laws to get rid of certain Germans citizenship due to certain races and those against Hitler’s eugenics philosophies, right before he sent them to the Concentration camps aka death camps since the laws took away their citizenship.
    So all the U.S. Pentagon, Northcom, the White House, the Capitol, or any agency in the U.S. government has to do is put out propaganda against certain races (bloodtypes), political groups, religions, and individual beliefs and any U.S. citizen that meets the attack propaganda quotas will instantly lose their citizenship, be secret arrested and detained without a court trial under the NDAA, and then sent to death camps to be exterminated.
    You’re probably wondering why U.S. citizens that lose their citizenship will be exterminated by their Government? Because as hundreds of natural born U.S. Citizens lose their citizenship in America and in the event no country will accept deportation of U.S. Citizens, the U.S. government will encourage death since there will be no way the taxpayers would want to pay loads of tax payers money to pay for hundreds of thousands of U.S. citizens given illegal status and lose their citizenship status plus having no country to be deported to.
    This will pave the way for the death camps in America to kill those that lose their U.S. citizenship to keep the budget deficit good, and also in cases where no foreign country will grant deporting Americans that lost their citizenship status to their country.
    The Enemy Expatriation Act is no different then the Nuremberg laws because they both took away natural citizenship of citizens due to meeting certain racial and political criteria that was considered a threat to the Nazi regime or in this case the establishment in America.
    The suspension of rights and then citizenship is what happened in Nazi Germany. Be aware this is now happening here in the good ole United States.

    http://uswgo.com/the-enemy-expatriat...66-s.-1698.htm
  • lxskllr
    Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 13435

    #2
    Kind of unbelievable that idea would even make it to congress. That's the kind of shit you think about when you're fantasizing yourself as supreme ruler, but it never makes its way out of fantasy zone; well, except for these jackasses I guess :^S

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    • shikitohno
      Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 1156

      #3
      Holy crap, Judge made a post that no sane person is actually going to flame him out on. I better get this story out to the papers.

      In all seriousness, though, this is flat out ridiculous. If something like this would actually pass, that'd mean there's the sort of political environment where I could easily see myself losing my citizenship just for how critical I can be of the US. I wonder what would happen to someone in that situation? If you did a prison term and got out, would they find a country that wanted you and just ship you there? I'm not surprised to see Joe Lieberman was involved with this. He's a great example of a useless and miserable waste of life.

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      • sgreger1
        Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 9451

        #4
        Yessssssss!!! JudgeFaust! Where you been at?


        This is one of many naziesque bills they are jamming down our throats at the moment. NDAA, PIPA, SOPA, and now this. They've drawn the line in the sand and made it clear that they will go to any length to strip us of whatever remaining illusion of freedom we had left.

        Put my name first on the list, **** the US Government and everything they stand for.

        Edit: this article is a bit sensationalist though. Check out this gem:

        You’re probably wondering why U.S. citizens that lose their citizenship will be exterminated by their Government? Because as hundreds of natural born U.S. Citizens lose their citizenship in America and in the event no country will accept deportation of U.S. Citizens, the U.S. government will encourage death since there will be no way the taxpayers would want to pay loads of tax payers money to pay for hundreds of thousands of U.S. citizens given illegal status and lose their citizenship status plus having no country to be deported to.
        Here's a good write up from RT: http://rt.com/usa/news/expatriation-...ship-ndaa-737/

        Another thing of note is that the Obama Admin said he would not use the powers in NDAA to indefinitely detail (without trail) any American citizens, but with this bill they can just say you are no longer an american citizen and then use the powers granted under NDAA to do whatever they want without having any burden of proof.

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        • shikitohno
          Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 1156

          #5
          sgreger, I wonder how long it'll be before it's bad enough that talking about a revolution won't make people think you're some sort of radical on the fringes of politics. I think as a nation, we're about due for one. Of course, somehow I imagine that the government won't consider that part of the constitution that guarantees the right to revolt if they decide to pull me in for saying that I'd be down to take part in it. Of course, I think in the US a revolution would be a rather bloody and horrible affair out of necessity. The government and the corporations who have the government in their pocket would try to paint the revolutionaries as nothing but dirty terrorists, and fight tooth and nail to keep the status quo. I'd prefer to see a peaceful revolution, but something about the US just tells me that signing up for one would basically be signing up for 20 years of living on the run and dying in your 40s when a new faction decides to eliminate the original members and attempts to seize power. I could either see it turning out well, or going the way of the Algerian revolution, where you only see one or two of the original leaders survive to the end.

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          • sgreger1
            Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 9451

            #6
            Originally posted by shikitohno
            sgreger, I wonder how long it'll be before it's bad enough that talking about a revolution won't make people think you're some sort of radical on the fringes of politics. I think as a nation, we're about due for one. Of course, somehow I imagine that the government won't consider that part of the constitution that guarantees the right to revolt if they decide to pull me in for saying that I'd be down to take part in it. Of course, I think in the US a revolution would be a rather bloody and horrible affair out of necessity. The government and the corporations who have the government in their pocket would try to paint the revolutionaries as nothing but dirty terrorists, and fight tooth and nail to keep the status quo. I'd prefer to see a peaceful revolution, but something about the US just tells me that signing up for one would basically be signing up for 20 years of living on the run and dying in your 40s when a new faction decides to eliminate the original members and attempts to seize power. I could either see it turning out well, or going the way of the Algerian revolution, where you only see one or two of the original leaders survive to the end.

            That's why you can't let them catagorize us as the fringe. We need to start a "First on the list" movement, where everyone openly oposes the government and says "put me up on the list first". These measures are made to make you scared to speak out, this is what Hitlet did too, he made it so that people who didn't want no trouble would just stay quiet since they didn't want to be put on a list of those who sympathize with the enemy, then when it all went down it was too late to speak out because they already had the infrastructure in place to silence you. We have to be vocal and speak out, which is why i'm the first one to say **** the US Government, i'm down for the revolution I want to be the first one on the list.

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            • shikitohno
              Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 1156

              #7
              Well, you can be second, I beat you on SnusOn.

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              • Ainkor
                Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 1144

                #8
                Interesting reply to a post on the dailyPaul.com website. http://www.dailypaul.com/198865/hr-3...patriation-act Words are not mine. Still pretty funked up though.....

                The new act, per the link given above, simply amends § 1481, the bill does not contain the words "terror" or "terrorist". Correction, it does not require a trial, never did. The Attorney General is the one who certifies someone as losing citizenship. That's not a matter to be tried in court. That's the purpose of this bill, to strip away the citizship IN PREPARATION OF A TRIAL. Attorney General certifies your lose of citizenship, then the US Constitutional protections do not apply to you in a court. This is actually evidence that they DO follow the law, and when it doesn't suit them, they change it till it does...Same thing Hitler did, he didn't break the laws, when they got in his way he had them changed to suit his purpose.
                The Act reads:
                ======================================================= =
                SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

                This Act may be cited as the ‘Enemy Expatriation Act’.
                SEC. 2. LOSS OF NATIONALITY.
                (a) In General- Section 349 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1481) is amended--
                (1) in subsection (a)--
                (A) in each of paragraphs (1) through (6), by striking ‘or’ at the end;
                (B) in paragraph (7), by striking the period at the end and inserting ‘; or’; and
                (C) by adding at the end the following:
                ‘(8) engaging in, or purposefully and materially supporting, hostilities against the United States.’; and
                (2) by adding at the end the following:
                ‘(c) For purposes of this section, the term ‘hostilities’ means any conflict subject to the laws of war.’.
                b) Technical Amendment- Section 351(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1483(a)) is amended by striking ‘(6) and (7)’ and inserting ‘(6), (7), and (8)’.
                ======================================================= ==

                As I said before, this statute is already on the books, and has been for a long time. These things are already pretty much convered in Title 18 2383, 2384 and 2385, which is incorporated in 1481. The only real change is in 1483, which now provides that if you are within the US when these acts are committed, then you can now lose your citizenship. Without these amendments, you must be outside the country to lose citizenship.
                Its kind of ironic, the organic Constitution applies to US born NON CITIZENS. There would actually be an arguement to be made that lose of citizenship, for an individual born on US soil, actually increases your Constitutionaly protections, not lessens them.

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                • EricHill78
                  Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 4253

                  #9
                  Shik off topic love the song on yer sig atm.. that was a great album.. one of the first cds I owned.

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                  • snusjus
                    Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 2674

                    #10
                    How would one determine what is "hostile" toward the United States? Would disagreement with a certain policy or law be considered hostile? Could adherence to a certain political belief be considered hostile? Could exercising speech critical of the United States -- which is protected under the First Amendment of the Constitution -- be considered hostile? Practically any idea or opinion regarding the United States could be interpreted as hostile, depending on who makes the analysis.

                    This is a slippery slope. In fact, the slope is coated in KY Jelly and motor oil.

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                    • sgreger1
                      Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 9451

                      #11
                      Originally posted by snusjus
                      How would one determine what is "hostile" toward the United States? Would disagreement with a certain policy or law be considered hostile? Could adherence to a certain political belief be considered hostile? Could exercising speech critical of the United States -- which is protected under the First Amendment of the Constitution -- be considered hostile? Practically any idea or opinion regarding the United States could be interpreted as hostile, depending on who makes the analysis.
                      That's the joke... It is written in grey ink and can be interpreted however they want. Remember, whatever powers you grant this administration, you must consider that it will extend to all future administrations. I.e imagine the worst president, would you grant him this power, because he will come along eventually and this power will be available to him.

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                      • truthwolf1
                        Member
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 2696

                        #12
                        Obama should of vetoed

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                        • snusjus
                          Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 2674

                          #13
                          Originally posted by truthwolf1
                          Obama should of vetoed
                          He doesn't have a spine. I lost a tremendous amount of respect for him when he signed the NDAA, despite having "reservations". If I were president, I'd probably break the record for the number of vetoes exercised.

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                          • truthwolf1
                            Member
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 2696

                            #14
                            Guantanamo by the Numbers

                            http://www.aclu.org/national-securit...tanamo-numbers

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                            • lxskllr
                              Member
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 13435

                              #15
                              Originally posted by snusjus
                              If I were president, I'd probably break the record for the number of vetoes exercised.
                              Yea, no kidding. I'd do it even if I knew they'd be able to override it. Make those assholes work for their nonsense.

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